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Savage: Impeach Bush over immigration plan
WND ^ | 1-12-04 | N/A

Posted on 01/13/2004 5:54:13 AM PST by JustPiper

Conservative talk-radio star, author says amnesty is betrayal of country

In the latest indication President Bush is having problems with his conservative core political constituency, Michael Savage, one of talk radio's biggest stars, tonight called for the impeachment of President Bush over his plans to legalize millions of illegal aliens.

"This is the worst betrayal of our country in my lifetime," said Savage, whose program is heard on more than 350 stations with an audience reaching some 6 million. His book, "The Savage Nation," last year was No. 1 on the New York Times best-seller's list for five weeks. His follow-up, "The Enemy Within," out just one week, is already No. 8 on the list. Both were published by WND Books.

President Bush

Tonight Savage called Bush a liberal and described him as part of the "enemy within" that is destroying the nation.

Savage created the phrase "compassionate conservative" in 1994, a term picked up by Bush during his presidential campaign – a campaign supported by Savage.

"This is much more serious than dropping your pants for an intern," said Savage. "This is a policy that represents a danger to national security."

Savage is hardly alone in his strong feelings of opposition to Bush's proposal to offer legal status to illegal immigrants. A new ABC News poll finds 52 percent of the nation opposes an amnesty program for illegal immigrants from Mexico, while 57 percent oppose one for illegal immigrants from other countries. Both results are roughly the same as when the administration floated the idea two-and-a-half years ago.

But today in Monterrey, Mexico, Bush reaffirmed his support of the proposal, despite its unpopularity at home. He said it could help illegal immigrants "leave the shadows and have an identity."

At a joint press conference with Mexican President Vicente Fox, Bush warned that his government will not allow the existence in the United States of an underclass of illegal immigrants, but claimed again his proposal is not an amnesty. Amnesty, he said, would only promote the violation of the law and perpetuate illegal immigration.

Bush said his immigration proposal would benefit both the United States and Mexico as it recognizes the contribution of thousands of honest Mexicans who work in the United States.

For his part, Fox embraced Bush's proposal.

"What else can we wish?" Fox said at the news conference with the president.

In the U.S., the latest poll on the controversy shows at least twice as many Americans "strongly" oppose the proposal as strongly support it.

Opposition peaks in Bush's own party: Fifty-eight percent of Republicans oppose his immigration proposal for Mexicans, compared with 50 percent of Democrats. For illegal immigrants other than Mexicans, 63 percent of Republicans are opposed.

Bush reportedly will disclose more details of the plan in his State of the Union address Jan. 20.

Meanwhile, the National Border Patrol Council, which represents all 9,000 of the Border Patrol's non-supervisory agents, has told its members to challenge President Bush´s proposed guest-worker program, calling it a "slap in the face to anyone who has ever tried to enforce the immigration laws of the United States," the Washington Times reported today.

The agents were told in a letter from Vice President John Frecker that the proposal offered last week during a White House press conference "implies that the country really wasn't serious about" immigration enforcement in the first place.

"Hey, you know all those illegal aliens you risked 'life and limb' to apprehend? FAH-GED-ABOWD-IT," said Frecker, a veteran Border Patrol agent. "President Bush has solved the problem. Don't be confused and call this an 'amnesty,' even though those who are here illegally will suddenly become legal and will be allowed to stay here. The president assures us that it's not an amnesty," he said.

Last week Bush proposed the sweeping immigration changes that would allow the 8 million to 12 million illegal aliens thought to be in the United States to remain in the country if they have a job and apply for a guest-worker card. The immigrants could stay for renewable three-year periods, after which they could apply for permanent legal residence.

Savage cited a new report published in the City Journal by the Manhattan Institute suggesting there is a major crime wave in the U.S. caused by illegal immigration.

"Some of the most violent criminals at large today are illegal aliens," the report charges. "Yet in cities where the crime these aliens commit is highest, the police cannot use the most obvious tool to apprehend them: their immigration status. In Los Angeles, for example, dozens of members of a ruthless Salvadoran prison gang have sneaked back into town after having been deported for such crimes as murder, assault with a deadly weapon, and drug trafficking. Police officers know who they are and know that their mere presence in the country is a felony. Yet should a cop arrest an illegal gang-banger for felonious reentry, it is he who will be treated as a criminal, for violating the LAPD’s rule against enforcing immigration law."

The situation is similar, the report says in New York, Chicago, San Diego, Austin and Houston. These "sanctuary policies" generally prohibit city employees, including the cops, from reporting immigration violations to federal authorities, says the report.

"These people are destroying America," said Savage. "That's all I have to say on the subject. But you can talk about it. Talk about it while you can – while America is still a free country, because it's not going to last."


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To: m1-lightning
It didn't happen because Bush didn't propose it.
221 posted on 01/13/2004 9:00:42 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: JustPiper
I had to shut him off last night. When he said he wanted a dem...any dem...Dean/whoever, his message was no longer rational. There is a big picture to look at. Yes, it involves many, many issues, but electing a dem. would be a horrible mistake.
222 posted on 01/13/2004 9:01:49 AM PST by ostephani
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To: Texas_Dawg; AbsoluteJustice
Poll Hints Bush Immigrant Plans Unpopular
223 posted on 01/13/2004 9:02:31 AM PST by Happy2BMe (Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
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To: m1-lightning
That doesn't make them non-christian.

I didn't say it does. I simply said that many here who are anti-immigration are also not Christians.

224 posted on 01/13/2004 9:02:42 AM PST by Texas_Dawg (Most of the FReepers opposed to illegal immigration are opposed to immigration/immigrants entirely.)
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To: riri
INteresting. Didn't know that. I never considered him a heavy hitter, thought he wasmore of an entertainer than anythng else.

But then I haven't heard him very often.

I REALLY like Mark Levin. He is acerbic and sharpe and worked for Reagan. Liddy needs no introduction. He is witty, bright and multi-talented. Ann Coulter is the best. The Hammer of the Liberals!
225 posted on 01/13/2004 9:03:06 AM PST by ZULU (Remember the Alamo!!!!!)
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To: jpsb
"...Ike, 1954 1 million deported..."

Worked real well, too. For about 5 minutes. I wish I had all the answers to this difficult problem, like you guys do. Funny, no president since Ike has done it. Boy, we sure have dumb presidents, who can't see the obvious solutions. I mean, it's so easy, right?
226 posted on 01/13/2004 9:03:31 AM PST by jim35
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To: Texas_Dawg; jetson
I'm from Illinois with the second largest immigration population in the states. I think Savage is a loon.
227 posted on 01/13/2004 9:04:24 AM PST by m1-lightning (Weapons of deterrence do not deter terrorists; people of deterrence do.)
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To: m1-lightning
Again. You're confusing a proposal with actual voted upon legislation. The only way a President can get his way is by Executive Order. This wasn't an Executive Order.
228 posted on 01/13/2004 9:04:42 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: Texas_Dawg
I don't watch too much TV. What are they saying?
229 posted on 01/13/2004 9:05:00 AM PST by m18436572
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To: JustPiper
Oh yeah...

"This is much more serious than dropping your pants for an intern," said Savage. "This is a policy that represents a danger to national security."

OK, now I know he's a leftist at heart. He's signed on full boat with the DNC party line. What part of "obstruction of justice and perjury" doesn't he comprehend? What a fool.

230 posted on 01/13/2004 9:05:34 AM PST by bootless (Never Forget)
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To: Happy2BMe
Poll Hints Bush Immigrant Plans Unpopular

Of course. Unlike Bill Clinton, GWB decide what is right or wrong based on polls. But at the same time, this is not a big issue and won't cost him that much support.

231 posted on 01/13/2004 9:05:39 AM PST by Texas_Dawg (Most of the FReepers opposed to illegal immigration are opposed to immigration/immigrants entirely.)
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To: Texas_Dawg
The implication was there but I'll take your word for it.
232 posted on 01/13/2004 9:06:51 AM PST by m1-lightning (Weapons of deterrence do not deter terrorists; people of deterrence do.)
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To: jim35; sinkspur
To: Texasforever; Howlin
Results of a poll conducted by Fox News, dated January 9, 2004, all people polled AFTER Bush's immigration proposal speech.

8. Later this month President Bush will give his State of the Union Address to the nation. What topic are you most interested in hearing the president talk about during his speech? (OPEN ENDED)

The economy/jobs 35%
Iraq 17
Terrorism 10
Health Care 4
Medicare/
prescription Drugs
4
Education 3
Immigration/
illegal aliens
2
Social Security 2
Taxes 2
Budget Deficit 1
Other 5
None 6
Not sure 9

84 posted on 01/12/2004 11:55:20 PM EST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)

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To: Texasforever
What's funny about these people is their insistence on calling themselves "the base".

Last I checked, the base of anything could not possibly be it's narrowest point.
80 posted on 01/12/2004 11:49:58 PM EST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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233 posted on 01/13/2004 9:07:05 AM PST by Howlin
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To: AbsoluteJustice
"...I have read the only person that casts judgement upon others is christ himself..."

Then read the Bible again, since nowhere in it does it say that Christians aren't allowed to criticize. So, you think Christ wants Christians to just let wrongs go unaddressed? Sinkspur isn't a hypocrite, you are just ignorant of what Christianity is.
234 posted on 01/13/2004 9:08:11 AM PST by jim35
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To: BigSkyFreeper
It didn't happen because Bush didn't propose it

I beg to differ.
See post #121

235 posted on 01/13/2004 9:09:50 AM PST by m1-lightning (Weapons of deterrence do not deter terrorists; people of deterrence do.)
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To: m1-lightning
See my reply on #228
236 posted on 01/13/2004 9:11:37 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: jpsb
Remember...it is a 50-50 congress (because of RINOs)...it is not like the Clinton days...IF YOU WANT CONSERVATIVE GOVERNMENT, VOTE IN A MORE CONSERVATIVE CONGRESS!!
237 posted on 01/13/2004 9:11:38 AM PST by kaktuskid
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To: ImpotentRage
When I voted for Bush I truly thought I was voting for a president who would represent AMERICA. Never again!

Yep, the RINO-In-Chief won't be getting my vote, ever.

238 posted on 01/13/2004 9:12:07 AM PST by citizen (Write-in Tom Tancredo President 2004!)
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To: arm958
Care to put a label on me?

Not at all..
actually, I'd like to label you, but I've been burned by people who like to use labels as weapons instead of sticking with logic and facts ;-)

I think you feel like a lot of us....that there are things about our prez that disturb you. At times he acts more like the RAT enemy than our Conservative leader. Whatever label I put on you would probably also apply to me.

239 posted on 01/13/2004 9:12:15 AM PST by evad (Welcome back Joe Gibbs...we've been waitin')
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Again. You're confusing a proposal with actual voted upon legislation. The only way a President can get his way is by Executive Order. This wasn't an Executive Order.

I'm not confusing anything. Both were trial balloons and neither have been sponsored in Congress.

240 posted on 01/13/2004 9:13:02 AM PST by m1-lightning (Weapons of deterrence do not deter terrorists; people of deterrence do.)
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