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Demons and Dawkins
Darwinian Fairytales (Avebury Series in Philosophy) | 1996 | D. C. Stove

Posted on 02/11/2003 7:23:06 PM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode

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1 posted on 02/11/2003 7:23:06 PM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode
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To: Burkeman1; mcsparkie; HiTech RedNeck; gore3000; Dataman; AndrewC; scripter; beckett; Cicero; ...
ping.
2 posted on 02/11/2003 7:23:40 PM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode
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To: gore3000; Ethan Clive Osgoode
Like all leftists, evolutionists delight in semantics and in turning the meaning of words upside down. Tells you something when people have to pervert the language in order to promote their theory.

Boy, you have that right. They could publish an Darwininian only dictionary for all the spaghetti language they use.

4 posted on 02/11/2003 9:26:21 PM PST by AndrewC (Darwininian Dictionary -- anything useful for just-so stories)
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Index ping.
5 posted on 02/11/2003 10:33:06 PM PST by scripter
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
I cannot speak for others, but for my own part, it is impossible to read these words without feeling anxiety for Dr. Dawkins's sanity. I try to think of what I, or anyone, could say to him, to help restrain him from going over the edge into absolute madness.

Naturalists simply cannot account for human nature with their materialistic presuppositions.

6 posted on 02/12/2003 4:14:35 AM PST by Dataman
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To: gore3000
I guess it all depends on the definition of the word "is."

8^>
7 posted on 02/12/2003 6:34:43 AM PST by RobRoy (So, what is the truth?)
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Bump
8 posted on 02/12/2003 9:48:01 AM PST by CyberCowboy777 (Extremism in the Pursuit of Liberty is no Vice!)
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Ping.
9 posted on 02/12/2003 10:48:14 AM PST by balrog666 (When in doubt, tell the truth. - Mark Twain)
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Ring ping-a-ling.
10 posted on 02/12/2003 10:50:23 AM PST by Junior (The New World Order stole your tag line)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
it is a problem or worse for neo-Darwinism (as for Darwinism) how altruistic behavior could survive and spread in any population of animals.

No, it's not. There is a whole camp of explanations sometimes called "red queen" theories, and both the evidence and arguments are quite straightforward.

11 posted on 02/12/2003 11:10:48 AM PST by donh
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To avoid duplicating Junior, this goes to the 2nd half of my ping list.

[This ping list for the evolution -- not creationism -- side of evolution threads, and sometimes for other science topics. To be added (or dropped), let me know via freepmail.]

12 posted on 02/12/2003 11:29:50 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas)
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To: donh
How about killer bee science // evolution . . .

the royal jelly // formula (( lies )) to create the devil hyper science // killer bees - - -

hostile takeover // murder // tyranny // lynchings !

kkk science !
13 posted on 02/12/2003 12:22:18 PM PST by f.Christian (( Orcs of the world : : : Take note and beware. ))
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode; donh
The Red Queen theories, or the thought that there really is no such thing as altruism in nature, that it's only an anthropomorphic machination. Ironically, these perceived altruistic behaviors are thought to be more proof of evolution through preservation of the gene pool.

If only creationists tried a little science once in a while, rather than simply being hack literary critics, maybe they'd learn a thing or two.
14 posted on 02/12/2003 1:32:13 PM PST by whattajoke
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To: f.Christian
Please share your lovely blank verse with someone
more appreciative than I.
15 posted on 02/12/2003 2:07:56 PM PST by donh
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
7 pages to debunk a semantic misunderstanding? Hardly worth getting excited over.

A gene whose expression increases its chance of getting passed to subsequent generations quite naturally should experience an increase in expression over time.

How is this controversial again?
16 posted on 02/12/2003 3:20:26 PM PST by Condorman ("Never tell me the odds!" -- H. Solo)
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To: donh
There is a whole camp of explanations sometimes called "red queen" theories, and both the evidence and arguments are quite straightforward.

So let's see you explain how altruism becomes selfishness according to this 'red queen' theory.

17 posted on 02/12/2003 8:03:05 PM PST by gore3000
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To: PatrickHenry
[This ping list for the evolution -- not creationism

Yup, the evo losers cannot win if they have any opponents in the field so they have to be excluded! Some scientific theory!

18 posted on 02/12/2003 8:04:57 PM PST by gore3000
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To: whattajoke
The Red Queen theories, or the thought that there really is no such thing as altruism in nature,

Listening to the evolutionists speak it reminds me of 1984:
War is peace/ slavery is freedom/ and of course, truth is whatever you want it to be.

19 posted on 02/12/2003 8:07:57 PM PST by gore3000
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7 pages to debunk a semantic misunderstanding?

Since it took Dawkins a whole book to re-define altruism to mean selfishness (1984 style) the author cannot be faulted on this. Perhaps you should direct your ire at Dawkins for his dishonesty.

20 posted on 02/12/2003 8:10:07 PM PST by gore3000
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