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The Guild 1-30-2003 Whiney Enviroweenies
MSNBC ^ | 1-30-2003

Posted on 01/30/2003 3:24:26 AM PST by BigWaveBetty

National Environmental Trust

Philip Clapp, president:
“This is the first time President Bush has mentioned the environment in a State of the Union, and the reason is simple: his poll numbers with the swing voters he needs in 2004 — women, independents and suburban voters — are dropping. This was window-dressing pure and simple.

“After two years of rolling back environmental protections, he has discovered there’s a cost. “President Bush’s environmental promises always come with a “Buyer Beware” sign. “His air pollution plan actually allows power plants to pollute more, for a decade longer, than the current Clean Air Act allows. “His forest plan allows timber companies to cut down 3,000 truckloads a year of the great trees in the Sequoia National Monument. [snip]

Sierra Club

Daniel Becker, global warming and energy program director:
“Fuel cells are an important part of a clean energy future, but the president’s rhetoric does not match the reality. President Bush’s FreedomCAR program is built on the flawed Partnership for A New Generation of Vehicles, which squandered billions of taxpayer dollars in research and development but did not bring a single hybrid vehicle to the marketplace. Similarly, the FreedomCAR program funnels millions to Detroit without requiring that they produce a single fuel cell vehicle for the public to purchase.

“The auto industry is using the promise of future fuel cells as a shield against using existing technology to dramatically cut our oil dependence, and pollution, today. This technology is sitting on the shelf while Detroit dithers. Honda and Toyota are producing hybrid vehicles today, the big three are not. Honda has stated that it is using the electric motor of its hybrid as the basis for the fuel cell cars which it is beginning to produce. Meanwhile, FreedomCAR is re-inventing the wheel. Refusing to demand that the Big Three use modern, gas-saving technology is irresponsible. [snip]

Natural Resources Defense Council

David Hawkins, climate director:
It’s surprising how brazen the president is being at taking what are rollbacks and delays and claiming that they are initiatives. Both of the activities (Clear Skies and Healthy Forests) that he featured in his statement last night are prime examples of that.”

“Having a program to accelerate the use of hydrogen fuels is a good idea but the president talked of a car that would be available in 16 years. We need something to deal with the next 16 years ... such as improving the fuel efficiency standards.” [snip]

It goes without saying if clintoon had proposed all this the enviroweenies would have made him a hero.


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1 posted on 01/30/2003 3:24:26 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs; Billie; mountaineer; Timeout; BigWaveBetty; ClancyJ; daisyscarlett; LBGA; ...
Good Morning!
2 posted on 01/30/2003 3:25:03 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: BigWaveBetty
I had a nightmare last night. I was driving along in a green Prius...that's it.
3 posted on 01/30/2003 4:04:30 AM PST by NYpeanut
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To: mountaineer
I don't know what I was thinking believing that the enviroweenies would appreciate GWB proposing policies that help the environment.

New subject. I'm surprized that it took this long:

O.J. Simpson's teenage daughter placed an emotional 911 call to Miami-Dade police after an argument with her father earlier this month.

Sydney Simpson, 17, was crying when she made the call on the morning of Jan. 18 and asked police to assist in what she termed as "an abuse thing." When they arrived at the home, the girl told police she and her father "got into an argument over family issues," according to the one-page incident report.

Miami-Dade police could not say Wednesday if Simpson was home when they responded to the call from the daughter of his murdered ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson. Police said no charges were filed and the daughter left the residence to calm down. More

I feel so sorry for OJ's two kids, they must be incredibly messed up.

4 posted on 01/30/2003 4:12:17 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: NYpeanut

Frightening!


5 posted on 01/30/2003 4:19:20 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: All
... Although all concerned vociferously deny it, Europe is indeed beginning to divide -- slowly, unevenly but perceptibly -- into two very distinct camps.

Certainly this is true where European attitudes on Iraq are concerned. On the one hand, France and Germany, both now on the Security Council, want to let the U.N. weapons inspections continue, seemingly indefinitely, seemingly regardless of how much Iraq does or does not cooperate. On the other hand, Britain and Spain -- also on the Security Council this year -- are just about as fed up with the whole thing as Rumsfeld. The Spanish government has already offered to let the United States use its bases in case of war. The British have offered to send more than 30,000 troops, an enormous proportion of the British army.

Add the Italians (who are offering airspace), the Danes (who are offering military support) and Eastern Europe (the Poles and Czechs have agreed to provide material support; the Hungarians have let Iraqi opposition groups train on their territory) and a clearer definition of "New Europe" begins to emerge. Britain, Italy, Spain, Poland, Hungary, Denmark, the Czech Republic: Perhaps not coincidentally, these are all countries that have recently undergone (or are undergoing) economic liberalization, privatization and labor-market reforms that have brought their economies at least marginally closer to ours. These are also countries that have, over the years, felt resentful of French and especially German domination of the European continent. WashPost

Ha! Blow it out your bazoo you useless CESM (cheese eating surrender monkeys) and hold mein beer while I duck under the table nazi's.

6 posted on 01/30/2003 4:30:07 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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The shortest, sweetest editorial ever:

The Clinton legacy
Jan. 30, 2003

Two key arguments in the Bush State of the Union speech - that deterrence won't work and that we can't trust Saddam to restrain himself - strongly echo the writings of Ken Pollack, Clinton's chief expert on Iraq. If you want to know why war is probably our last best option, read Pollack's Threatening Storm: The Case for Invading Iraq. The Bush people did.
- PHIL BOAS, deputy Editorial page editor The Arizonia Republic

Too bad for the US clintoon didn't listen to Mr. Pollack.

7 posted on 01/30/2003 4:36:28 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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WASHINGTON - There will be no anti-war protests inside the White House.

That's the edict from First Lady Laura Bush, who has canceled a poetry festival scheduled there for Feb. 12, fearing it was going to turn into a massive anti-war rally in the Bush living room.

"While Mrs. Bush respects the right of all Americans to express their opinions, she, too, has opinions and believes it would be inappropriate to turn a literary event into a political forum," said Noelia Rodriguez, spokeswoman for the First Lady.

The symposium was to celebrate the work of poets Emily Dickinson, Langston Hughes and Walt Whitman. But participants were quietly preparing to read anti-war poems.

Marilyn Nelson, Connecticut's poet laureate, said she was even planning to wear a silk scarf emblazoned with peace signs.

The Associated Press
8 posted on 01/30/2003 5:00:22 AM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs (Happy people live longer. I plan on living forever)
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To: NYpeanut
LOL! You must have been dreaming you were a Hollywood celebrity, with a hybrid car for self-righteous self-promotion (and a couple of Benzes, BMWs, Land Rovers, etc., in the garage for the rest of the time).
9 posted on 01/30/2003 5:30:26 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Good for Mrs. Bush. As for the poets who only would have shown their lack of class by turning their hostess's event into an anti-war protest, I say, "Get a real job."
10 posted on 01/30/2003 5:34:07 AM PST by mountaineer
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More on the insufferable loud-mouthed hag that is Susan Sarandon:

SUSAN Sarandon would go to war for Bill Clinton, but she wouldn't give President Bush the time of day. At the London premiere of her new movie "The Banger Sisters," Sarandon asked: "What's happened to Tony Blair?" The British prime minister has been a solid U.S. ally, while Sarandon taped a 30-second antiwar spot that aired just before Bush's State of the Union address.

"I don't understand [Blair's] reasoning or his logic," Sarandon said. [That's because you're an idiot, Susan]

"I don't understand his evolution. I can see him being seduced by Bill Clinton, [just like me, she added] but I don't understand what him and Bush speak about." [Grammatical correctness is the bugaboo of the politically correct, i.e., left-wing, it would appear]

Lots of women feel the same way. Page Six

11 posted on 01/30/2003 5:41:10 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer; Hillary's Lovely Legs; BigWaveBetty; Teacup; NYpeanut; lodwick; All

GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY!!!


12 posted on 01/30/2003 5:46:27 AM PST by Pippin (Have you hugged a hobbit today?)
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To: NYpeanut
LOL - how horrible.
13 posted on 01/30/2003 5:53:14 AM PST by lodwick (Wishing a superior day to all FReeople.)
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...and Guilders also.

Remember to refresh your tags.
14 posted on 01/30/2003 5:57:21 AM PST by lodwick (Wishing a superior day to all the Guild.)
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To: mountaineer
...but I don't understand what him and Bush speak about."

Aaah, it takes brain cells, Ms. Saranwrap. That and moral convictions.

Mornin', y'all. The plant explosion in the next town over is just heartbreaking. 3 confirmed dead and 7 missing still, 20 in critical condition. It rained all night which helped in the fire suppression. That black cloud came over our way around dinner time last night what with the wind blowing 12 knots. Anyway, prayers for the families of victims.

15 posted on 01/30/2003 5:59:37 AM PST by Carolina
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To: mountaineer
"...but I don't understand what him and Bush speak about."

Her don't know what her's talking about.

16 posted on 01/30/2003 6:08:46 AM PST by Timeout
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To: Carolina; Pippin; lodwick; BigWaveBetty; All
More on the enviro-weenie H'wood celebrities:

Harrison Ford is seeing red about President Bush's claims of being green.

In his State of the Union address Tuesday night, the President listed, among other things, an initiative to prevent forest fires as evidence of his efforts to protect nature. He then dismissed environmental protections as "command-and-control regulations." Measures that are also good for the economy are better, Bush said, citing hydrogen-fueled cars.

Ford, who patrols the Hudson River in his chopper hunting down polluters [What? Doesn't that interfere just a tad with real law enforcement officials?] and who's been called the "Indiana Jones of the global environment," called Bush's remarks a "construction."

"That was a fascinating construction of the President's," Ford told us, tongue firmly in cheek. "About how he was safeguarding the environment. It was very interesting." Ny Daily News

17 posted on 01/30/2003 6:09:15 AM PST by mountaineer
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Ford, who patrols the Hudson River in his chopper hunting down polluters

A self-styled ranger. So, what does he do with the ones he catches?

18 posted on 01/30/2003 6:12:09 AM PST by Carolina
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To: Timeout
Illiterate, ungrammatical and utterly ignorant, that's our Susie! Oh yes, and that foreign policy expert Norman Mailer has a few choice words, too (why do I post this stuff? It just makes me mad):

Norman Mailer went off on another Bush rant Tuesday night. "Never trust a man who uses the word 'evil' 15 times in five minutes," the white-tufted author said during a reading of his new book, "The Spooky Art," at the Union Square Barnes & Noble. Comparing Bush to a "drug dealer," the Pulitzer Prize-winner said war with Iraq is "a win-win situation. If they go in and win quickly, half of America is going to adore Bush. If we lose, our President will make a speech that will bring tears to Americans' eyes - about our boys who shed their good American blood fighting evil."

19 posted on 01/30/2003 6:12:47 AM PST by mountaineer
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The leaders of eight European states have issued a joint declaration of support for the United States in its efforts to disarm Iraq. The text of the statement may be found here. The signers were: Jose Maria Aznar, Spain; Jose Manuel Durao Barroso, Portugal; Silvio Berlusconi, Italy; Tony Blair, United Kingdom; Vaclav Havel, Czech Republic; Peter Medgyessy, Hungary; Leszek Miller, Poland; Anders Fogh Rasmussen, Denmark.
20 posted on 01/30/2003 6:19:29 AM PST by mountaineer
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