Posted on 11/21/2002 1:06:48 AM PST by Clinton Is Scum
Jim -
My wife and I are longstanding members of Free Republic (since 1998). We were involved in the Pugget Sound chapter for awhile, and have supported the site financially.
I have heard from numerous sources that articles from Vdare may not be posted to Free Republic. Is this true? If so, can you please take a few minuts to explain your rationale for this policy?
I think Vdare is a terrific site. The editor of the site, Peter Brimelow, is a brilliant thinker and respected journalist. The site is concerned with "national identity" questions: immigration, affirmative action, bilingual education, multiculturalism. Yes, these are controversial issues, but the positions advocated by Brimelow and his colleagues are well within the range of opinions posted by FReepers every day. Anyhow, if we can't discuss controversial issues at Free Republic, where can we discuss them?
I hope it is OK to post this in the public forum. If you would prefer to discuss privately, please send me a FReepmail.
Regards,
Clinton Is Scum
And I am not surprised, that the American Patrol articles are also banned as Jim Robinson has told me himself that this titanic immigration crisis is of no big concern to him.
Personally I think there is more motivation to ban articles from specific sites like the American Patrol than meets the eye.
I believe it's the really the entire issue surrounding this open border lunacy more than any specific article.
The Republican party treats this ever escalating crisis very much the same way.......
Well, I haven't been to American Patrol so I won't speak to that, but I did cruise by VDare and checked some of their content. Fairly benign stuff if you ask me, but with a hard line against immigration, particularly of the illegal type. If there's racist material there, it's well hidden; well enough that it would take a concerted effort to find it IMO. If Jim has a problem with these guys it may be a personal thang. I don't have a clue.
I believe it's the really the entire issue surrounding this open border lunacy more than any specific article.
Maybe Jim needs a little more time to actually see what some of the rest of us see regarding the "invasion". That is, it's bankrupting our country, state by state. And Jim, whether you like it or not, it's our federales job to secure our borders, PARTICULARLY if that's what the majority of the electorate wants. I don't think you'll find a poll anywhere(not that polls are necessarily a big deal, but they do offer up some guidance for our representatives) that would support the present porous border approach to immigration.
Once Jim and others see this as a danger to our way of life, they'll get aboard; not before.
FGS
Interesting comment Jim. But your wrong, as the American Patrol is not totally devoted to opposing Mexican immigration.
As I quickly went to the American Patrol site and on their front page there are two articles that have NOTHING to do with Mexico. One article is regarding a town in Massachusetts that is fighting a FEDERAL plan to house Somali war refugees there and how it is negatively affecting the town of Holyoke Massachusetts
And yet another article about John Allen Muhammad, one of the snipers suspect in the Washington sniper case that is wanted in Antigua and Barbuda for allegedly smuggling people from the Caribbean into the United States through Canada.
Perhaps you should take a little closer look at the American Patrol, as it is not how you just described it.
Thanks, but no thanks. Not interested.
Hey, no problem Jim, I just thought I would point out that your observation and comment about the AP is incorrect as my post #66 indicates
Won't happen of course, but unless I missed the gist of the converstion, ILLEGAL immigration appears to be the sticky wicket, NOT legal immigration.
It's just not the most important issue to me at this time.
But it is an issue that's important to a lot of people, including many on this forum. The problem as I see it is the change in mind set of immigrants since, say, WWII. Early immigrants to this country came to become Americans, not hyphenated Americans. For the most part, they, like the rest of us were proud to be called an American. They helped to make America one of the greatest countries that ever graced God's green earth because they embraced what America was; the grandiose experiment.
Have you noticed any changes in the modern day immigrant that the Dims especially have so blatantly codified(for political purposes) and segregated into [name your country of origin]-Americans for special treatment? THIS is the problem. These people have no reason to become just Americans any more; not as long as they can receive special handling as hyphenated Americans.
Those of you who are devoted exclusively to halting Mexican immigration should have no problem finding a forum elsewhere on the net to discuss the issue to your heart's content.
I have no desire to halt legal Mexican immigration, so I can't be painted with that brush. Maybe it's just the circles I run in, but I know many Mexican immigrants that are honest, hard working and keep their noses clean; I wouldn't ask any more or less from anybody else.
What I do find curious though Jim, given an issue as highly charged as this one, you seem to want to put a damper on it by placing single issue site(s) off limits. Again, I may have missed something, but the VDare site at least doesn't strike me as anywhere near over the edge.
I'm sure you've given it a lot of thought, but given the current PC environment, try to understand the potential train wreck if illegal immigration is not stopped.
Regards,
FGS
Were you aware that the Canadian government allows any native francophones (french speaking persons) to claim Canadian citizenship, no questions asked?
This means anyone, absolutely ANYONE who is a native speaker of french can be granted Canadian citizenship!!
Many who are doing so come from North Africa and are - have you guessed it yet? MUSLIM!
My Canadian friends are going crazy over this, a blatant effort by the Quebecois to up the number of french speaking citizens in Canada all the while endangering national security.
Most of these emigres come from Algeria, a nation known for its violent Islamic fundamentalism (most Algerians speak French). No doubt many are slipping down over the border.
We have more than just the southern border to worry about.
That's like the muslims, who are well funded, that go to south america to become "mexicanized" and then get fake papers in Mexico and come on in to our country as a Mexican citizen with a visa or passport.
Truth is out the window....
Check #66.....
Buh bye. Don't let the door bump you on the way out.
Thank you for providing a little further explanation for your policy against posting material from VDare and American Patrol. However, I respectfully disagree with some of your assumptions.
The fact is that, according to INS and Census Bureau, at least 70% of all illegal immigrants are from Mexico. Almost all illegal immigrants come into the United States by violating the U.S./Mexican border. Because of this most news coverage of the immigration issue focuses upon Mexico, Mexicans, and the U.S./Mexican border. Sites such as VDare and American Patrol are primarily made up of collections and clippings from mainstream news outlets. Therefore, it may appear that those sites are intentionally and "exclusively" focusing upon opposing Mexican illegal immigration when that is not necessarily their intention or design.
It would be impossible to cover the illegal immigration issue without appearing to focus primarily upon Mexico.
As for American Patrol, of which I am far more familiar, I can assure you that they are much more upset about the flow of OTM's (Other Than Mexican's) from terror-sponsoring nations that are crossing the border and evading capture.
I know this is your website and you can dictate as you please. I know that illegal immigration is "just not the most important issue to [you] at this time." However, I'm sure that Michael Jackson dangling his baby over a balcony in Germany is not the most important issue to you either, yet multiple threads on that issue were allowed.
No one is asking you to allow racist threads or to make illegal immigration your number one issue. We're just asking that legitimate threads on illegal immigration which contain content from such worthy sites as American Patrol (not StormFront - not SpotLight) be allowed to exist along with all the other threads and topics on Free Republic.
One of these days I hope he will see fit to ban you.
This from a "Libertine." How ironic.
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