The Guild 11-14-2002 Abraham Unveils Hydrogen-Car System

Yahoo ^ | 11-12-2002 | By DAVID GOODMAN

[BigWaveBetty]

DEARBORN, Mich. (AP) - Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham (news - web sites) released a "roadmap" Tuesday for putting fuel cells in the nation's cars and trucks, further committing the United States to a hydrogen-based transportation system.

"Creating the hydrogen fuel cell vehicle of the future presents complex technical challenges," he told business leaders at the Global Forum on Personal Transportation in the hometown of Ford Motor Co. "Overcoming them will take an intensive and equally complex effort — but it will be worth it because the stakes really are so high."

The Department of Energy (news - web sites) and the nation's leading car and oil companies began work one year ago on a "National Hydrogen Energy Roadmap," Abraham said.

Abraham was holding a closed-door meeting later Tuesday with the heads of the chief executives of some of the nation's leading businesses, including Ford, General Motors Corp. and Exxon Mobil Corp., as well as the leaders of American, Northwest and Southwest airlines.

Fuel cells use a chemical reaction between hydrogen and oxygen to produce electricity. When pure hydrogen is used, the only tailpipe emission is water vapor.

The technology could have two big benefits: sharply cutting America's dependence on oil imports from an unstable Middle East and reducing the production of greenhouse gases widely blamed for global warming (news - web sites).

But fuel-cell technology is not expected to be widely available until the end of the decade at least.

Critics say the Bush administration and auto industry are using fuel cell research as a way to fend off calls for vehicles that get more miles per gallon.

"The whole business about fuel cell vehicles is just political theater," said analyst David Healy of Burnham Securities.

He said a much better way to reduce oil consumption is through gas-electric vehicles, some of which already are on the road.

[habs4ever]

His nose is slipping off his face! That is a monstrosity!!

Please put an alert notice up next time you put Jacko on a thread.

[lodwick]

Haji Amin Naheed Mustafa Al-Fresco - best get this registered before someone snaps it up M.

CC - I believe you're onto some with the Dose thread. Good thinking there.

After the SnowBunny/JR meltdown Sunday, I decided to see what options were out there in algore's world - we'll see how it goes.

[lodwick]

Ooops - good thinking M!

I need more coffee. bbl

[Hillary's Lovely Legs]

I haven't been on the Day in the Life threads. I have been too busy and I am on a plain old phone modem and I can't handle all the photos.

I can see the confusion, but it drives me nuts.

[Hillary's Lovely Legs]

I hope you aren't thinking of leaving us!!! What in the world would we do with you?

[habs4ever]

"She is so impressed with her own greatness. barf"

I have read this somewhere before ;-)

[mountaineer]

It's easier for them to make generalizations than worry about facts, because they're really not very bright.

[lodwick]

I'll probably not leave, but if I do, you guys will get along fabulously. Too good a group not to. ;-)

[mountaineer]

For what it's worth, JL, I've visited more than a few of AlGore's online progeny, and returned with that hollow, Chinese food-type craving. There's not much "there" there.

"Take it from me, I've looked high and low, and never found anyplace like the Guild. Ooh-ooh-ooh."

[BigWaveBetty]

You never let me have any fun! ;-)

[BigWaveBetty]

I so enjoy saying couscous. I must be a Muslim lover down deep.

Couscous! Couscous! Dammit, it's just fun.

JL, I'm sorry to inform you, you may not leave. The Guild has spoken! We will hunt you down and put a spell on you. Your special spell will be you will no longer be able to speak, just utter Couscous, Couscous! MWAhahahahaha!!

[SuziQ]

My sister has held many jobs in Law Enforcement, street cop, detective, Director of a Restitution Center, Investigator for a District Attorney, and is now head of an Alternative Sentencing programs for Drug Offenders. She has always told me she can tell by a person's actions at what age they began to smoke pot because they stop any mental development at that point. One of our brothers is a case in point; he started smoking pot about the age of 19, and at 52, he STILL acts as irresponsible as he did then!

I'm always amazed at those folks who say it doesn't hurt anybody, and it is no worse than alcohol. The difference is that most folks don't need a drink to get themselves going, but the pothead usually needs to have a joint.

[Hillary's Lovely Legs]

You are so right.

I loved those commercials of that 35 year old loser guy sitting on the couch with his mother telling him to get a job. He takes a toke on his joint and says " ok, later mom".

It didn't even need an explaination.

[BigWaveBetty]

OMG! Some idiot district elected Rahm?! Looks like his middle finger got the clintono treatment.

Incoming freshmen House members for the upcoming 108th Congress, from left, are, Rep.-elect Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill., Rep.-elect Chris Chocola, R-Ind., and Rep.-elect Linda Sanchez, D-Calif. are seen on the steps of the Capitol Thursday, Nov. 14, 2002 prior to posing for their 'class photo.' Emanuel is a former senior adviser to President Clinton (news - web sites), while Sanchez, and her sibliing Loretta Sanchez, who was re-elected to a fourth term, will become the first sister combination in history. (AP Photo/Dennis Cook)

The guy in the middle is thinking, "Don't touch her you filthy clinton loving scum!"

[BigWaveBetty]

Wow, Rahm musta messed up big time. That middle finger ain't what it used to be!

[lodwick]

Again, who is going on this cruise?

SL - your daughter is on the FL ping list, but I did not see your name there. Whazzup with dat? And what hoppen to our post election pool party celebration at your home? There were no directions to your pool.

A super Friday night to one and all. ;-)

[lodwick]

Either that or the Tony Soprano message was delivered. Chop chop.

Watch out for your stupid head Rahm baby.

[Endeavor]

I knew you were on the other side (TOS) when you posted that snide remark about Wilson Phillips on another thread. Finally, you out yourself, Mustafa!

[Endeavor]

Hey, are we doing a live thread for the Goron thing tonight?

[mountaineer]

Who among us has the stomach to watch not one but FOUR Gorons whining about the election being stolen? (Not I!)