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AMERICA - The Right Way!! (Day 635) [Remember the Trade Center!!]
Various News Sources and FReepers | October 17, 2002 | All of Us

Posted on 10/17/2002 4:17:06 AM PDT by Chairman_December_19th_Society

We will not live in fear! [President Bush]

Good morning!! Do not let the victims of the attacks on New York and Washington, nor the brave members of our Nation's military who have given their lives to protect our freedom, die in vain!!

North Korea admits to a secret nuclear weapons program, according to a senior Administration official.

The source said [Assistant Secretary of State] Kelly [while visiting the reclusive Communist Nation on security talks] also raised with North Korea evidence that North Korea may have a uranimum-enrichment program. The program, which the United States believes would only be used to develop a nuclear bomb, began under the Clinton administration, according to the official.

Surprisingly, North Korea confirmed the allegation. FULL STORY HERE.

The ACLU has announced they are looking into whether the Defense Department violated the Posse Comitatus Act by supplying assistance to local police departments in the Washington area looking for the sniper.

Washington area police offered these tips to improve people's safety:

Click here to obtain information being offered by Washington-area police departments on how to help protect yourself from the sniper.

And BS refers to Saddam Hussein as an Iranian dictator in a Truth Alert

For AMERICA - The Right Way, I remain yours in the Cause, the Chairman.


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To: *ATRW
More - from the same source as #59 -

"The U.S.-funded light water reactors in North Korea will accumulate plutonium in spent fuel at the rate of about 17,300 ounces per year, ...

...enough to produce 65 nuclear bombs a year.

And don't forget, North Korea is working on ICBM technology that can reach the western United States - their technology can currently throw a warhead to Alaska.

61 posted on 10/17/2002 6:22:54 AM PDT by Chairman_December_19th_Society
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To: Molly Pitcher
I seem to remember John Walsh defending Gary Condit a while back......saying he couldn't possibly be involved with Chandra's disappearance!
62 posted on 10/17/2002 6:23:46 AM PDT by OldFriend
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society
I don't know what to say....I am speechless...wow!

Couple with this that there is an Islamic Center/Mosque near the Falls Church ....Fredericksburg.....Manassas.. shootings...

WOW!

63 posted on 10/17/2002 6:29:15 AM PDT by Dog
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To: Dog
The conclusion - after considerable thought - I would draw from the map is this:

The presence of mosques and other places of Islamic worship do not indicate in and of themselves locations where the sniper(s) would seek refuge. I think our sniper would act as directed by the Al Qa'eda handbook and go to a "brother's apartment" (house). The presence of worship centers, however, usually indicates a population nearby that can sustain the center - meaning there would be a substantial number of "brother's apartments" available to spirit these individuals away for a few hours or so.

That's my takeaway.

64 posted on 10/17/2002 6:34:26 AM PDT by Chairman_December_19th_Society
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society
Ok....but it does show that these guys had places they could run to and hide......like this very interesting indeed.

Thank you for testing my theory...something to ponder.

65 posted on 10/17/2002 6:40:22 AM PDT by Dog
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To: Purdue Pete; kayak
No cow ....maybe a calf....:-)

I am not going to get excited..

I am not going to get excited ...

I am not..

66 posted on 10/17/2002 6:49:27 AM PDT by Dog
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To: *ATRW
Back in a bit...
67 posted on 10/17/2002 6:50:28 AM PDT by Dog
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To: Bitwhacker
97 makes a better door than a window...

Barn door at that.

68 posted on 10/17/2002 6:51:37 AM PDT by CONSERVE
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To: Molly Pitcher
I read about that book and how Carter and the Democrats tried to use the Soviets to stop President Reagan. It's simply amazing. Can you imagine what the news coverage would be if it had been a Republican president who was trying to do the same to a Democrat?

The same goes for the North Korean nuclear program. Although it's maybe too early to tell, I doubt that story will be on the radar screen in a few days, but if it was a Republican who had aided their nuclear program, we'd never hear the end of it.

69 posted on 10/17/2002 6:58:32 AM PDT by Mr. Mulliner
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore); kayak
How is this? *snicker*


70 posted on 10/17/2002 7:02:15 AM PDT by lysie
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To: Molly Pitcher
Re: preview. The image was stored in your computer's temp files. To be sure a link or pic or whatever will show up, empty the temporary files and then preview your post. Thanks for bringing all the links we need to see. JL
71 posted on 10/17/2002 7:12:50 AM PDT by lodwick
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society
The story of creation in Genesis is just that, a story. While it works in a broad sense, it cannot be applied literally. That said, it is still amazing how well the story of creation in Genesis actually fits to what we have learned from science.

You should some time read Hugh Ross. His story is amazing. He was extremely precocious, graduated from college by age 19, etc. When he was a young man, he decided to use his love for and knowledge of science to prove all religions false. One by one, he took the scriptures of various religions and found statements that could be proven false scientifically. The hardest part, he said, was finding statements to which a scientific inquiry could apply, but once he did, it was easy to show them to be unscientific.

He was not a Christian more than anything else, but he purposely saved Christianity and the Bible for last. He said the first thing he noticed was that the Bible was absolutely full of claims to which a scientific inquiry could be applied. There were many historical references too which could be analyzed for their truth value.

For two years he worked on this, writing provably true statements in one notebook and provably false statements in another. Trouble is, the first notebook was filled and the second notebook had nothing that he could really say was provably false.

In looking at the creation story, he noted that the Bible's creation story was amazingly scientific in that it describes 11 events and those events are recorded in exactly the order our knowledge of science would dictate them to be in. For instance, light must be present for plants to grow, or land must be present for "beasts" to exist. He said that the chances of Moses, with no knowledge of these scientific facts, could not have possibly gotten these 11 events in the right order. The chances against it happening by chance were astronomical. The closest any other creation account came was the Babylonian creation account which correctly ordered 2 of 13 events.

Hugh Ross is considered a heretic by those who take the Bible's creation account literally, but you can decide for yourself if you want to read more here.

72 posted on 10/17/2002 7:13:47 AM PDT by Mr. Mulliner
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To: Mr. Mulliner
Boy, you really stabbed this thread to death, didn't you? What are you going to do with the corpse?
73 posted on 10/17/2002 7:43:32 AM PDT by Mr. Mulliner
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To: Mr. Mulliner
Boy, you really stabbed this thread to death, didn't you?

Quick, call the MD sniper squad!

74 posted on 10/17/2002 7:45:06 AM PDT by Chairman_December_19th_Society
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society; Miss Marple
Thinking out of the box here..... I heard an interview on the IMUS show this morning that got me to thinking ......could this sniper be a hired gun??

It seems the Palies used an IRA sniper against the Israelis.

Here is a story in a British paper that talks about this tactic..

IRA SNIPER

As The Telegraph disclosed last month, the Israeli intelligence service Mossad asked British security agencies to check on the movements of known IRA killers to help identify a sniper who shot dead seven soldiers and three civilians in 25 minutes - using 25 bullets from a bolt-action rifle.

75 posted on 10/17/2002 7:49:29 AM PDT by Dog
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To: Dog
Hmm. That is an interesting theory. I have seen suggestioins that it may be someone from Kosovo, but not seen the IRA connection yet.

That would make things even more difficult.

Ugh...replaying John Walsh, who knows nothing about this and should shut up.

76 posted on 10/17/2002 7:54:58 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple
Jane .....I would love to know what caliber that gun used...
77 posted on 10/17/2002 7:59:12 AM PDT by Dog
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To: Mr. Mulliner; Chairman_December_19th_Society
If you don't mind my intrusion on your conversation, I'd like to ask a couple of questions.

Where do we get the information about what is actually science regarding the beginning of life? From scientific text books, of course, and information given by scientists, most of whom scoff at the idea of Creation by an Omnipotent God.

Is the Carbon14 system of dating accurate? Only back about 2,000 years, and then not consistently (there have been living mollusks dated at over 2000 years!). Scientists also use the geological strata to date archeological evidence, and archeological evidence to date the geological strata. They also make assumptions based on their pre-disposed ideas to date their finds. Lucy is a prime example of that kind of dating......they said it just 'looked like' it was that old.

Does anyone in the scientific community admit that many 'scientific discoveries' to support evolution, such as the Piltdown man are hoaxes?

Some members of the scientific community recognize that what is being taught in schools as 'fact' is bunk, but have you heard them admit it publicly? Are you aware that an evolutionary scientist admitted in writing, that evolution was impossible, based on geological and scientific reality, but to acknowledge any other explanation for the beginning of life would mean he would have to acknowledge the existence of God.....and he refused to do that.

The growth of widespread acceptance of theory of evolution was perpetuated by atheists in the 19th century, whose purpose was to declare God 'dead.' I submit, that believing what (atheistic) scientists declare as 'fact' regarding evolution is comparable to believing what the media declare as 'fact' regarding politics. They have a vested interest in the outcome.

I firmly believe that the evil of abortion is a direct and logical extension of the belief in evolution. Where is the value of human life if we are no more than algae evolved?

On the flip side. If we believe that the story of Creation is 'just a story,' then where does it stop? Is the story of Noah just a story? Jonah and the big fish? Daniel in the Lion's Den? Jesus on the cross? If we take out the foundational truth of God's creation, where does that leave us?

This is not to say that there is not allegory in the Creation story. There is no way to prove a literal Adam (though Paul in Romans 5 certainly makes him sound like he is a real individual), or a literal Eve, but if we begin believing the scientists at the expense of the truth of Scripture, we are removing, IMO, something very critical to our basis of our faith.

Wow! End of sermon! Sorry!!

78 posted on 10/17/2002 8:03:16 AM PDT by ohioWfan
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore); kayak; All
On second thought..perhaps I should forget about the added words. Wouldn't want to deprive you of having fun,ABG. :-)

Both are available until I hear from you.

No more trivial posts today...promise. :-)

79 posted on 10/17/2002 8:05:14 AM PDT by lysie
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To: ohioWfan
In my opinion it is not necessary to believe in a literal creation story in order to oppose abortion or have a strong faith.

As you know, my original degree was in geology. Most scientific hoaxes were not discovered by theologians, but rather by other scientists.

While I believe that evolution is not proven (i.e. it is a THEORY) it is also not wise to discount it simply by saying it is unbiblical.

I would not presume to understand the methods that God uses to create life.

80 posted on 10/17/2002 8:08:58 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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