AMERICA - The Right Way!! (Day 635) [Remember the Trade Center!!]

Various News Sources and FReepers | October 17, 2002 | All of Us

[Chairman_December_19th_Society]

We will not live in fear! [President Bush]

Good morning!! Do not let the victims of the attacks on New York and Washington, nor the brave members of our Nation's military who have given their lives to protect our freedom, die in vain!!

North Korea admits to a secret nuclear weapons program, according to a senior Administration official.

The source said [Assistant Secretary of State] Kelly [while visiting the reclusive Communist Nation on security talks] also raised with North Korea evidence that North Korea may have a uranimum-enrichment program. The program, which the United States believes would only be used to develop a nuclear bomb, began under the Clinton administration, according to the official.

Surprisingly, North Korea confirmed the allegation. FULL STORY HERE.

The ACLU has announced they are looking into whether the Defense Department violated the Posse Comitatus Act by supplying assistance to local police departments in the Washington area looking for the sniper.

Washington area police offered these tips to improve people's safety:

Click here to obtain information being offered by Washington-area police departments on how to help protect yourself from the sniper.

And BS refers to Saddam Hussein as an Iranian dictator in a Truth Alert

For AMERICA - The Right Way, I remain yours in the Cause, the Chairman.

[Chairman_December_19th_Society]

False alarm on Delta flight

Turns out it was an electrical problem in the plane itself.

[Molly Pitcher]

YIKES . Shoots fired on the interstate in Morrow County, ohio. Didn't say I-71, but I assume that was it....last night. No one hurt.

Darn! Missed you Josephine, and yesterday, missed Foghat!

I'm glad to know you're okay, and out there in lurker mode, and when you can, post away!

[Chairman_December_19th_Society]

BREAKING...

ROCKVILLE, Maryland (CNN) -- A man who appeared to have provided key leads to investigators at the scene of the latest Washington-area sniper shooting misled police, who may file charges against him, law enforcement officials said Thursday.

Police may charge witness who gave false leads on sniper

[lodwick]

Thanks - good news for a change. But not a real confidence builder in the maintenance of the aircraft.

[ohioWfan]

Yes, it was on I71 in Morrow County, and a bit too close to us here.

The investigation in ongoing.......I'll be listening for any info.

[Molly Pitcher]

A hunter's firing gone awry?? That would be slightly less alarming than deliberate shots at cars or copycat antics.

[DallasGal]

I get this on Power 89.7 FM True Alternative...LOVE this station as I have always listened to Alt. Music, now I listen to Christian Alt. Music. Stumbled upon them by accident and since they are listener supported I stopped supporting PBS and now give my $ to them.

OWF, you're welcome. I was following along with your conversations about it today...thought you might like it.

[Miss Marple]

Here is a cross section of an unconformity:

In geology, one operates from the premise that in almost all cases, the bottom layer of rock was deposited first (in much the same way you make lasagna). In these two diagrams, the geologic history would have been that the lower folded or tilted layers were deposited first as sedimentary beds, then the layers were uplifted and folded, then a period of erosion rather than deposition occured (creating the broken line which cuts through the folded layers, then the area subsided and deposition began again, creating the horizontal layers on top. Unconformities represent a period of erosion.

In Central Indiana and Ohio, because the glaciers came through here, the earlier deposited layers of Pennsylvanian, Missippian, and Ordovician rock are not present, although they are in the hilly southern parts of our states where the glaciers did not reach.

The presence of an unconformity in the Grand Canyon is actually a rather common geologic occurence, since it is very unusual to find a place with an unbroken history of deposition with no erosion. The writer cites the lack of deposition for a geologic time period as proof that evolution didn't happen, if I am reading this correctly. That is not true. It doeosn't prove that evolution DID happen either. It simply is a place with some missing rock record.

Prior to the Ice Age, the rocks in Indiana indicated that at one time Indianapolis sat under an inland sea. Those rocks were carried to the south by the glaciers, and deposited in moraines south of my house. The rock record in southern Indiana still shows the evidence. Just because the evidence has been removed from where I sit typing this does not mean that for 2 billion years Indiana was a fertile glacial plain.

I hope I am explaining this correctly.

More on neo-catastrophists later...the author is misinterpreting their position.

[tillacum]

I can send her an application if she needs one. We need all the members we can get. I think it is important women learn the art of weaponry. Are you a Second Amendment Sister, Molly?

[Miss Marple]

Hi, Molly! WHY do I keep forgetting that Thursday is senior citizens' day at the grocery here? YIKES! Takes me forever to get through the store!

[Chairman_December_19th_Society]

Time to run. I'll keep my head down. :)

[Molly Pitcher]

Yes, till, I am....joined soon after the group was formed.

I sent her a link already! Thanks for replying and offering. I know I sound like a broken record on the subject, but it is so important!

Jane, hope you can take it easy the rest of the day...grocery stores are often busy in the afternoons, and senior citizen day!

[Molly Pitcher]

Bye, Chair! Thanks for the map.

[Common Tator]

It seemed strange to me at first. Bush has an ambassador say to North Korea we have evidence you are not keeping your word and are busily trying to make an atomic bomb.

The reply is, "We certainly are....."

Isn't that strange. It would seem that they would deny it and then to scare the hell out of the world set one off.

Or just announce they have them and say if you don't like it we are willing to play nuclear missiles at 4,000 miles. After all it was just a couple of years ago they demonstrated their long range intercontinental missiles. We know they have the missiles for delivery. We tracked their tests of ICBMs. The word then was "no sweat they don't have nukes... Clinton fixed it so they don't have Nukes". It looks like he certainly fixed us.

I think it is possible this is Korean blackmail. I certainly hope so. "Yes we broke our word. But if you want us to stop it is going to cost you." We can only hope that is their game. It seems to me the Koreans are playing, "What will you pay us to stop trying to make atomic weapons?"

The entire question hinges on Do they already have atomic weapons. If they do our failure to do star wars may have been the biggest mistake in our nations short history.

Otherwise in a few centuries historians may ask, "How many dead Americans did Bill Clinton cause?" I hope the answer is not "All of them."

[Miss Marple]

I swear to you and all on this thread, that if North Korea fires a nuke at us, I will certainly hunt someone down like a dog, if it takes the rest of my life.

[Molly Pitcher]

I'll join your posse!

[Dog]

Could they be blackmailing us already??

Do either of you see them launching a missile at South Korea??

They could tell the South to surrender or else.......wow!

[Dog]

Count me in that posse..

Seriously I can see them blackmailing South Korea or Japan in the near future.

[JRandomFreeper]

Good afternoon all. Just back from Ft. Worth, trying to sort out my reserve pay situation. I have not yet been paid correctly one single time since I've re-enlisted. And the pay for the Korea trip still hasn't shown up. Sheesh.

/john

[ohioWfan]

The writer cites the lack of deposition for a geologic time period as proof that evolution didn't happen, if I am reading this correctly. That is not true

I don't think that's exactly his position. His conclusion was that it was fine for them to believe that evolution happened, but that it was a leap of faith to believe it based on evidence in the Grand Canyon. I don't know enough about geology to understand the specifics, but I know that there are other sources for the information I cited, and I'll keep looking for them.

I think the whole point is that it takes as much faith to believe in evolution as it does to believe in Creation. Much of science refutes the possibility that something came from nothing, but scientists believe it happened anyway.

Your earlier point that it should be taught as theory is key. It's not. It's taught as fact, and those who don't believe it ridiculed. To believe everything that atheistic scientists claim they have discovered regarding the so-called 'missing link' is a dangerous trap that even Christians can fall into. They (the atheists.....not all scientists) have an agenda, and that agenda is to propagate a disbelief in God.

IMO, the 'theory' of the Creation and the Flood, and the theory of evolution both need to be taught in public schools as scientifically valid, but not provable choices from which students can draw their own conclusions.