AMERICA - The Right Way!! (Day 635) [Remember the Trade Center!!]

Various News Sources and FReepers | October 17, 2002 | All of Us

[Chairman_December_19th_Society]

We will not live in fear! [President Bush]

Good morning!! Do not let the victims of the attacks on New York and Washington, nor the brave members of our Nation's military who have given their lives to protect our freedom, die in vain!!

North Korea admits to a secret nuclear weapons program, according to a senior Administration official.

The source said [Assistant Secretary of State] Kelly [while visiting the reclusive Communist Nation on security talks] also raised with North Korea evidence that North Korea may have a uranimum-enrichment program. The program, which the United States believes would only be used to develop a nuclear bomb, began under the Clinton administration, according to the official.

Surprisingly, North Korea confirmed the allegation. FULL STORY HERE.

The ACLU has announced they are looking into whether the Defense Department violated the Posse Comitatus Act by supplying assistance to local police departments in the Washington area looking for the sniper.

Washington area police offered these tips to improve people's safety:

Click here to obtain information being offered by Washington-area police departments on how to help protect yourself from the sniper.

And BS refers to Saddam Hussein as an Iranian dictator in a Truth Alert

For AMERICA - The Right Way, I remain yours in the Cause, the Chairman.

[kayak]

There has been quite a bit of forensic contamination. That is how they've been able to link all 12 events.

Chair ~~~ I think virtually all of the "evidence" they've had for linking the events is from the bullet fragments in the victims.

I apologize for being so graphic but I'm pretty sure about that.

ALL ~~~ I would love to jump into your discussion about the creation and such but, alas, it's payroll day. I've only been able to skim your posts but it looks like a fascinating conversation.

[lodwick]

Buying a jet fighter ?
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[Chairman_December_19th_Society]

My bottom line continues to be, why should I not believe in creation story in Genesis literally?

I am not challenging a "literal" interpretation of the story in Genesis. But, to me, to interpret "day," or even the components of a "day" ("evening" and "morning"), would imply that God has a domain analgous to that on Earth, which strikes me as being just a little arrogant on the part of us relatively insignificant creatures.

We know from scientific measurements that a "day" on Earth is 23 hours, 56 minutes, and some number of seconds in length.

We also know, applying the same concept of "day" as a rotation of a celestial body through a 360 degree of arc independent of any other movement, that a "day" on Mars is about 24 1/2 of our hours. Similarly, a "day" is little over 9 Earth hours on Jupiter, and nearly 88 terrestial days long on Mercury. In fact, on lonely Pluto, a day is many Earth years in length.

So the concept of "day" is already relative within our own human experience.

It does rankle my sensibilities a tad to suggest absolute knowledge of the length of a day in the life of the Almighty.

It could indeed be roughly 24 hours, it could just as easily be 24 seconds of our time, or several hundreds of millions of sidereal years.

I am comfortable with my interpretation as a Devine day being equivalent to hundreds of millions of sidereal days because it allows many of the things we insignificant humans have been allowed by His hand to learn to fit elegantly into His wonderful mosaic.

[ohioWfan]

Don't you just hate it when work interferes with fascinating conversations? :o)

Mine should be, but I'm letting the conversation get the upper hand for the time being...........I'll worry about (and feel overwhelming guilt about) the work later on!

[Chairman_December_19th_Society]

Too funny!!! ROTFLMCO!!!

[Dog]

Thank you Josie.....called Hugh Hewitt lately???

:-)

[kayak]

That is hilarious!

To save everyone else the trouble, I looked up absquatulation.

Here's what I found ..... This can be achieved only through absquatulation (a form of meditation which takes place in pedagogues). Absquatulation is the only practice which all members take part in.

I still don't know what it means ..... and I'm not sure I want to know.

[Chairman_December_19th_Society]

I think virtually all of the "evidence" they've had for linking the events is from the bullet fragments in the victims.

I believe I have heard they recovered shell casings from some of the sites in Maryland and the last Spotsylvania shooting. I don't have links, but that is my recollection.

[ohioWfan]

But, to me, to interpret "day," or even the components of a "day" ("evening" and "morning"), would imply that God has a domain analgous to that on Earth, which strikes me as being just a little arrogant on the part of us relatively insignificant creatures.

Boy, I'm not trying to be difficult here, but that's the first time I've ever heard anyone say that interpreting the words day and night in Genesis literally as being 'arrogant.' To me, it is the exact opposite. It is humility before an almighty and omnipotent God in a struggle to grasp the enormity of His creation. It is looking at Scripture as it is, without the filter of human understanding.

This is God's word to US.......the insignificant creatures. This is HIS choice of words to communicate to us, knowing that we are finite and weak and lacking understanding......knowing our human experience.

I don't presume to know why God chose the word meaning 24 hours to talk about the days of creation, but I have to ask why would He use a specific word meaning a specific thing, and not mean it to be specific? I'm not suggesting that I have absolute knowledge of what God means, nor am I saying that I have absolute knowledge that each day is not a million years.

I just wonder why God would choose to use specific language in communicating His word to us in Genesis, instead of general language used in other portions of Scripture.

[Josephine]

Nope. Haven't "plugged" you on the radio lately.

Speaking of his show, are you still listening to it and if so, have you heard his regular interviews with Yoni, the former Israeli military guy? He has said that his gut tells him the sniper(s) is foreign terrorism.

[Chairman_December_19th_Society]

I don't presume to know why God chose the word meaning 24 hours to talk about the days of creation,

My choice of the word "arrogant" was not meant to deride any one individual - sorry for offense.

I cannot, however, come to terms with a rigid meaning of the word "day" as it comes to us from the Lord, precisely because it comes from Him, and I am not trying to disparage your interpretation - really, I am not.

I believe, however, that we have reached that wonderful point in the course of this dialouge where we each have decided upon a certain structure of the argument and each have equally compelling cases to make.

Maybe we can agree on this: that, for now, we can accept our differences on the word "day" and leave it for another day?

:)

[Dog]

Yes I listen to him often... I heard the Yoni interview.

Ask anyone on this thread I have said this is terrorism since day one....as a matter of fact....I am being a pest about I think....:-)

Did you know Hugh lurks on the thread??? I heard him mentioned something that was mentioned here first.

[Dog]

See post #5...

[ohioWfan]

Maybe we can agree on this: that, for now, we can accept our differences on the word "day" and leave it for another day?

I was just thinking the same thing. :o)

[Utah Girl]

Thanks for the laugh!!!

[Chairman_December_19th_Society]

BREAKING...

Kuwaiti authorities arrested a teenager Thursday who had explosives in his car near a shopping center and residential high-rise where some U.S. soldiers live just outside Kuwait City, government officials said.

Kuwait Teen With Explosives Arrested

[Josephine]

Very interesting.

I do hear him mention Free Republic and he appreciates us as listeners 'cause he'll say things like "I wish someone over there at Free Republic would post/link (such & such) article"

[Mr. Mulliner]

If you've got about 40 minutes, I recommend that you listen to Hugh Ross in a debate with an agnostic. (If you have an additional 45 minutes, you can listen to the agnostic, but I thought he was an idiot who tried to easily dismiss Ross's arguments with a swipe of his hand.)

This talk will not address the issue of "day." Ross is a strong Christian interested in removing barriers that some people have for faith, but he is an astronomer who believes in an old earth. For that reason he's often criticized by those who interpret the creation account literally, but I think he makes tons of sense. This stuff is really interesting and very, very up to date.

Just click here.

[Mr. Mulliner]

That is hilarious, lodwick!

[Miss Marple]

I am fascinated that about your comment about the Colorado River not causing the Grand Canyon. Where did you get that information?