Posted on 10/15/2002 4:12:53 AM PDT by Chairman_December_19th_Society
We will not live in fear! [President Bush]
Good morning!! Do not let the victims of the attacks on New York and Washington, nor the brave members of our Nation's military who have given their lives to protect our freedom, die in vain!!
In a departure from the normal characteristics of the shootings in the Washington area, a woman was gunned down by a single bullet at a Home Depot store located at Seven Corners in Falls Church, VA. If this is the sniper, it would be the first attack inside the Beltway.
Police found a white van in Baltimore with a high-power rifle, .223 ammunition, a sniper manual, and a sign on the front dashboard "Jihad in America."
In Florida, polling data shows Gov. Bush with the support of 48%, and McBride at 45%, with three weeks left till the election.
For AMERICA - The Right Way, I remain yours in the Cause, the Chairman.
Consequences ... I wonder, sometimes, if we do not allow ourselves a "net" ... while flying through life ... by allowing for the deviousness of human nature ... by recognizing it and lamenting it ... we can sometimes use it as a way to rationalize our own behavior ... or the behavior of someone near to us.
I am surely not a religious scholar ... I come to the table lame and sorely lacking ... yet I hold true to one thing ...
There is good ... and there surely is evil ... there is the right way of doing things ... and then there is the wrong way of doing those same things ...
And each of us ... each of us feels this in every corner of our hearts ... and when we misstep, we know it.
Judgement can be clouded by society's alluring call to leave behind the lasting things ... this has been true since the beginning of time ... and I can not deny that entire cultures have been destroyed as they continued to march onward towards reckless, souless behavior ... but other cultures were borne in their place. Century after century.
Here ... in the United States ... our own wondrous freedom has led to abysmal behavior and the near cosmetic destruction of the lasting things ... but they remain ... and I have seen ... in my own lifetime ... a renewal ... and a need to reexamine ... to listen to our better selves ... and come closer to center.... to that better part of ourselves.
Man. I sound like an idiot ... and, considering the frame of mind I am in ... HAR ... I should duct tape my fingers ....
Putting a face on our "society" humanizes it and gives "it" power ... more "power" than it deserves ... it becomes a self-actualizing prophecy ...
Some farmer in Maryland, this day, informed his 16 year old that the corn crop failed for lack of rain ... something beyond his control ... and a mother in Indiana sadly told her 12 year old daughter that, no, she would not be able to continue ballet lessons ... as mom had been laid off ...
Choices ... all four of these people will have choices to make in response to this news ...
More times than not our glorious selves shine through ... and let the script for Sex in the City ... a show I have never seen ... be da****.
My friend and I have decided to do a tapas theme for our Halloween party. I am looking for recipes right now, and have found a few, she is scouring her Martha Stewart Hors D'Oeuvres Handbook for some new recipes. This theme should be fun. Now all I have to do is find a Halloween costume, I thought a gypsy might be fun this year.
Yes. Specifically, what Sect. Rumsfeld authorized, is perfectly legal, acceptable, moral, constitutional, and what would have been expected by the founders.
Some folks forget that it's our armed forces, made up of us, that want to protect us. It's self governance.
/john
/john
That's how it strikes me. It makes sense to use all the tools at our disposal to catch this guy ..... and if some of those tools belong to the armed forces, so what? I just don't see that I'm giving up any liberties at all if a Predator is used to find the perp(s) ..... it seems to me that we are all a little safer, not more endangered.
lysie and Utah Girl ~~~ I appreciate your comments, too.
You and jtill both quoted me, and I want to make it clear..society as a whole, and in significant segments of it, is suffering. Bill Bennett is another who's written quite well on this.
But how to analyze the problems, and more...how to solve them... so many individual decisions there it looks like to me.
Duct tape your fingers! illstillbe - Don't you even think it!! LOL!
There seems to be a very fine - almost submicroscopic - line to this.
Posse Comitatus requires the military to avoid assisting domestic law enforcement officials in the conduct of enforcing laws within the United States.
All right - define assist. Yes, it is at that level.
And the definition of "assist" that is apparently operable and has survived court challenges is this, and is most correctly phrased in the negative (what they cannot do):
The military cannot provide any verbal exchange of information which might cause the civilian LEAs to amend, alter, change, or reinterpret their lines of reasoning.
Anything else, however, seems permissible.
For example: the military launches a drone, but it requires a military tech to actually fly the craft and interpret the signals (i.e., tune the TV signal so the picture is "good"). So long as that is all the military tech does, and so long as that is performed in the guise of the civilian controlling the situation (i.e., "fly the plane to the left, fly it over there," etc.), then it is not assistance.
One key also seems to be whether there is a human interface - which follows logically from the assistance definition earlier. The technician is not an interface, because he is not providing information, per se, but rather is a faciliator for the equipment. A military advisor, OTOH, would be verboten.
Bet that is about as clear as mud, but that's because each side keeps testing that boundary line.
[BTW - you could make the argument the military was not "assisting" Reno in the attack on Mt. Carmel on April 19, 1993, but that would be missing the point of what is going on now. Reno opted to make war on a small group of American people, and then destroy the evidence, with materiel she got from DoD. The current situation is meant to clearly enhance the - and this is a critical distinction in my mind - security of a region of America, rather than wanton carnage.]
Shepard Smith on Fox News just confirmed that anti-gun MD Gov. Paris Glendening has, by executive order, made illegal ANY discharge of a projectile weapon in four (4) counties around Washington DC.
This ban also includes bow/arrow and muzzloading hunting that are about to come into season, and all practice and recreational shooting.
What a jerk!!
The liberals will all applaud this very obvious infringement on civil liberties ...... and then probably turn around and scream about the Pentagon helping look for the perp(s). One action is by a liberal 'rat ....... the other would be by a Republican administration ...... no politicizing of the situation at all. Nope.
By hook or crook, the gun grabbers will always try to overturn the 2nd Amendment. Mark my word, the Brady Bunch, Carol Baloney and the Million Morons will be calling for a ban on hunting rifles soon.
Oh, goodie.
All right, all of you folks in the People's Republic of Maryland, you are now safe. The governor says so - he has prohibited the discharge of firearms and other projectiles in PG, Montgomery, and probably Howard and Charles. Our perp can't fire his weapon now - it is illegal.
All residents may now come out of their hiding places and pump gas, go to Home Depot, take their children to school - all without fear of being shot. The world thanks you very much Mr. Glendenning for showing us your wisdom and courage in dealing with this threat - wisdom obviously beyond anyone else's capability. No one, absolutely no one else would have thought up the positively brilliant idea of simply commanding everyone to not fire projectiles.
Mr. Glendenning should be nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.
[BTW - What does this mean to the Montgomery county school child who shoots a "spit ball"?]
That isn't how I remember my training in it. My understanding is that we can't perform those duties that are unique to law enforcement. IE, serving warrants, making arrests, things like that. Observation and reporting facts is (within my understanding) acceptable, since they are moral imperatives on any citizen in response to a crime.
/john
Pleasant evening wishes for you all.
Yes, but a former Administration decided to test the boundaries of the Act, by taking it into areas beyond observation and reporting.
Such things as "lending" hardware - such as tanks and sophisticated electronics which may require technicians to operate them.
We then get into another whole thing about whether that ends up as part of the arrest "process." (Gee - once lawyers get involved, it's never simple anymore.) In fact, there is already some debate whether pictures from the drone aircraft would be admissible in court, precisely because of Posse Comitatus. (Wouldn't matter, IMO, there's already enough forensic ballistic evidence to wrap things up, but the fact it is even being debated shows the issue is not black and white anymore.)
NBC's Campbell Brown's Father Is Set To Leave For Prison
It seems that he's being sent off on a little vacation for lying to the FBI ..... but he says he didn't do it. The article describes a party atmosphere as he prepares to leave on his little state-paid rest.
Btw, he's the Insurance Commissioner of Louisiana. He retains the position while he is in prison but, obviously, the duties will be carried out by someone else.
Here's a quote from the story ...... "At this stage in life," the 62-year-old Brown said, "the most important thing to you is your right to do what you want when you want to do it. I am losing that right."
Another quote ....... "What happened to me was unfair," Brown said.
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