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FR Homeschoolers (Thread 2)
A continuation of thread #1 ^ | 08/31/2002 | TxBec

Posted on 08/31/2002 6:14:16 PM PDT by TxBec

This is our own corner of Free Republic where homeschoolers can discuss what curriculum we use, vent when needed, share our successes, compare notes, alert each other to things we find on the internet, and vent some more.


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To: Khepera
Parent's, Please See This Thread

Bush's Radio Address
(Students in Service to America)


21 posted on 09/01/2002 5:44:59 AM PDT by madfly
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To: latina4dubya
One of the best reasons to homeschool is that it is such an efficient way to learn. My eighth grader just finished his schoolwork. It's 1 p.m. Last year, he was always done by noon. He has the whole rest of the day and evening to himself. No homework. It's done.
22 posted on 09/04/2002 10:02:23 AM PDT by cantfindagoodscreenname
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To: TxBec
We homeschool in southern Ohio. I say we loosely since I don't get many opportunities to school; though I seem to get plenty of chances to exhort, cheer, incite, be an audience, etc.

We have a 6 y.o and a 4 y.o. We're doing the Charlotte Mason thing primarily for language arts, Miquon Math, very much a Well-Trained Mind approach to history.

The library is our most frequent stop. We use a Barnes & Noble charge card to help pay for books (1% back in credits.) We have access to the local library and the Cincinnati library which has an excellent lending policy for homeschoolers.

We joined CHEC but dropped out, too many folks wanted a co-op (their own school instead of a public school and that got weird). We belong to a couple of Catholic homeschool support networks and the church we belong to has a high proportion of homeschoolers. Mostly for support and ideas.

We also belong to HSLDA for its lobbying and legislative management efforts. I understand some folks think HSLDA gets in the way. But I don't have the time to lobby and am willing to pay a professional.

23 posted on 09/10/2002 12:04:35 PM PDT by WriteOn
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To: WriteOn
Tough All Over
by Douglas Wilson

Um . . . boys and girls are different. As parents bring up their children in the nurture and admonition of the Lord, the ethics of child-rearing remain constant. But the differences between the sexes require that parents govern their children with wisdom. Not only are these children different from one another, these differences reflect the wisdom of God, who intends for them to serve Him differently.

The purpose here is to outline some of the common pitfalls which face mothers as they deal with their sons . Of course, the father has the responsibility to see to it that the relationship between his wife and his sons is what it ought to be. Nevertheless, trouble often arises between mother and son which he needs to be aware of. Sometimes this trouble is visible to a mother, and sometimes it is not.

Boys need to get knocked down. The first "blows" they receive should be right at home during their first several years of existence and delivered by those who know them best. This is the time when parents must establish the lines of authority, and the father must see to it that the boy's mother is respected and honored by him. Unless this is done when the boy is two to four years old, the trouble for mom later on will be considerable.

As the son grows older, and if mother has a hard time maintaining a good relationship with her son through parental discipline, she may attempt to compensate for it though developing an emotional closeness with him. "I know he can be a real pill, but we have had some really good talks. I think he is really opening up to me." What may actually be happening is the son is learning how to manipulate his mother. In other words, if he tells her how his day at school went and talks with her just a little bit, a great deal of disobedience and disrespect will be overlooked.

When mothers face this temptation to mollycoddle their sons, they should know that if they give way to it, they are destroying their sons. Any Christian family should, of course, be characterized by kindness and by "good talks," but there is a counterfeit kindness which kills. Emotional closeness or intimacy which ignores sin is not a sign of better things to come; it is a disaster ticking.

By the same token, there is a type of toughness in discipline which builds. And we must remember that discipline is not just limited to responses to disobedience and sin on the part of children; discipline also includes patient instruction when the child encounters some of life's difficulties.

A family with young sons was recently in our home, and in the course of our meal together some hot food hurt one of the boys. Gently, and without any harshness at all, the father stopped his son, who had started to cry, and taught him. "What do you do when this happens? You smile and keep on playing." Such lessons, delivered in this fashion, are worth mountains of gold.

This can ,of course, be easily misunderstood. No one is saying that a boy with a severed limb should be yelled at -- "Don't bleed on the carpet!"

Nevertheless, instilling toughness in boys is extraordinarily important. A masculine toughness is the only foundation upon which a masculine tenderness may be safely placed. Without a concrete foundation, thoughtfulness, consideration, and sensitivity in men is just simply gross. So mothers must take particular care against allowing some of their feminine strengths to be the occasion of stumbling for their sons. Three things are necessary as mothers consider this.

The first is that she should talk regularly with her husband about her sons and her relationship with them. (Of course they should confer about daughters as well, but mom is receiving something additional in her talks about the boys. She does not initially know how boys think and respond, and her husband does.) Any number of things may be happening which she does not see and concerning which her husband's advice would be invaluable.

Secondly, she must have the respect and obedience of her sons. The older and bigger they get, the more obedient they should be. A son who is a foot and a half taller than his mother should hear her with respect. Of course she should be careful not to issue needless requirements, but when she requires something, it must be cheerfully done. If it is not, then she should immediately involve her husband. The central issue is not the thing to be done, but rather teaching the son to honor his mother, as the commandment says, and to respect women.

Third, she must never subsidize her sons' laziness. Masculine inertia is difficult for anyone to deal with, and the aversion which many boys have to academic rigor is renowned. But educational laziness is the mother of poverty and sloth. Whether it involves homework from a Christian school, or the schoolwork supervised at home by a homeschooling mother, the word which should characterize the academic activity of the home is industry .

Homeschooling mothers, in particular, have to check the work being done against an objective standard. Boys can work much harder than they say they can. In all this, under the father's supervision, the mother can equip her sons to rise up and call her blessed.


24 posted on 10/02/2002 2:40:39 PM PDT by ppaul
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To: latina4dubya
We have had similar issues with our daughter we homeschool. She wants to go to school now, because of friends at her church. I made it an effort to go to a co-op now, and have a school like setting with a controlled group. It's also just for 1 class. The class is about 45 minutes, so it's not too long for her either. Where I live, in public school doesn't seem to be a joke. What they seem to expect from them is harsh. My friend is a teacher, and told me that her class doesn't have recess. They won't make the end of the year requirements. This is for the 1st graders! They work all day, and their only break is lunch. I think they are expecting too much, and pushing the children way to hard. I get so much more done with homeschooling, and my children have more play time with other kids. To be honest, my childrens days are mostly socializing, and activites. My children not only meet the standard, but they exceed it in morality, manners, and most important, their relationship with my husband, me, and the Lord. I am really enjoying it as well! I don't have to worry about getting my child to school, picking her up, going over homework, planning vacations, and all the other things. She also has a wonderful group of friends. Thanks for your story!
25 posted on 12/04/2002 8:35:42 PM PST by JennieOsborne
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To: JennieOsborne
Welcome to FR, Jennie!
26 posted on 12/07/2002 8:12:57 PM PST by TopQuark
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To: TopQuark
I just wanted to congratulate FR for this HomeSchooler Forum. Interestingly, I created one myself, on BadEagle.com about the same time. It's called "The New Patriots."

As you may know I am from Oklahoma, the state with the worst educational system in these United States. However, we also have some of the most talents homeschoolers in the country. A perfect irony.

In any case, no homeschoolers as yet are interested in expressing themselves too openly. At least, not on BadEagle.com. I know a few of these students personally, and cannot understand their reluctance to participate.

Any explanation from FR? Are they just ashamed to be associate with an American Indian forum? Perhaps. In any case, I want to extend my invitation to FR homeschoolers, too.

Dr. David A. Yeagley
badeagle@badeagle.com
http://www.badeagle.com/cgi-bin/ib3/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?s=a8a418eb3dc98532117f873fa05c4861
27 posted on 12/10/2002 10:52:03 AM PST by Bad Eagle
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To: Bad Eagle
Are they just ashamed to be associate with an American Indian forum? You must be kidding!

I am so delighted you have joined! I've learned about your plight in your previous place from a FrontPage article. I actually wanted to right a letter to the governor and University of Oklahoma officials: they should feel privileged to have you.

And, no, not because of "diversity" considerations, although it is important to have role models for kids. You are a great role model for all American kids, regardless of their background. And the University should like to have you because you, having numerous talents, are one of only few Renaissance men left in this world.

Welcome to FR, it is such a pleasure to have you here.

28 posted on 12/10/2002 1:44:52 PM PST by TopQuark
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