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Judge Mudd Refuses Sequester Plea: Westerfield Jury Verdict In Sep? (Aug. 16th Verdict Watch)
Union Trib ^ | August 15, 2002 | Jeff Dillion/Steve Perez

Posted on 08/16/2002 6:39:20 AM PDT by FresnoDA

Judge denies defense motion to sequester jury

By Jeff Dillon and Steve Perez
SIGNONSANDIEGO

August 15, 2002

Judge William D. Mudd addressed counsel on a motion by defense attorney Steven Feldman regarding media access to jurors in the trial of defendant David Westerfield at San Diego courthouse, August 15, 2002. Westerfield is accused of the kidnapping and murder of seven-year old Danielle van Dam from her Sabre Springs home, last February.  REUTERS/POOL/Dan TrevanArguing that media coverage was creating a "lynch mob mentality" that could pressure jurors to return a guilty verdict, the defense attorney for David Westerfield today asked the judge yet again to sequester the jury.

While the jury completed its first week of deliberations without a verdict, Superior Court Judge William Mudd denied the request and a related motion to "pull the plug" on television and radio coverage of the courtroom proceedings, but agreed to set aside a private room for jurors to take breaks. Defense attorney Steven Feldman had argued that reports suggested jurors felt like they were under siege, unable to leave their deliberating room, go to lunch or walk home without being watched or followed.

"We have no assurance that they are not be intimidated ... by the presence of the media," Feldman told Mudd during a morning hearing. "We can think of only one fair resolution to that: Get the jury out of harm's way."

 

'Broccoli heads'

He cited an incident earlier in the week in which radio talk show hosts from KFI-AM 640 in Los Angeles broadcast from outside the courthouse, waving stalks of broccoli around and reportedly calling jurors "broccoli heads" for being unable to return a quick guilty verdict.

Westerfield, 50, could face the death penalty if convicted of kidnapping 7-year-old Danielle van Dam from her family's Sabre Springs home on Feb. 2 and killing her. Jurors are in their sixth day of deliberations.

Lead prosecutor Jeff Dusek disagreed with Feldman's interpretations of the jury's complaints.

"Whether or not any guilty verdict in this case would be based on a siege mentality or the meida I think is pure speculation and utterly false in this case," Dusek said.

What the jurors had complained about was being watched all the time, he said.

"That hardly equates to being under siege," he said.

 

Trust in the jury

Mudd dismissed most of Feldman's concerns, saying that the jurors had only asked a bailiff to keep reporters a little bit farther away, though an alternate juror reported that he or she had been followed to his car.

Media coverage has diminished since the jurors began deliberating, the judge said.

"The synopsis programs on the two local TV networks are not in place," he said. "The talking heads are doing nothing but speculating about what the jury may or may not be thinking."

Mudd said there were no signs that jurors were being harassed by the public, especially since their names and faces haven't been publicized.

"We've all sat here and picked this jury, know their makeup and know their dedication to this cause," Mudd said. "I would prefer to think that any verdict they make in this case would be based upon the evidence."

Sequestering the jury also wouldn't protect them from any public reaction to the verdict, Mudd said.

 

'The activities of a few'

"The tragedy is, the majority of the people in this courtroom are abiding by the court's orders and working very hard to insure they, meaning the media, do not cause something to occur that is going to cause a mistrial," Mudd said. "Not all of them feel that way as is very apparent with the activities of a few."

Mudd took aim at two radio program hosts from Los Angeles who he previously described as "idiots."

"I suppose it's entertainment out of LA. I hope it stays in LA," he said. "The shows those two gentlemen put on made the court incredulous as to what they were attempting to do."

Mudd also announced:

 



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To: NatureGirl
First prosecutor I've ever seen or heard tell of, "that,didn't have to "prove nuttin' to nobody" neither."


381 posted on 08/16/2002 12:23:38 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Not those green bottle flies. Read what wonders posted above from Haskell's testimony. This is not what the jury requested to read, though. :-(
382 posted on 08/16/2002 12:24:32 PM PDT by small_l_libertarian
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To: KnutCase
You could be correct on that. They could be "going around the table" and viewing what specific jurors want to see. No way can anyone (for or against) "crystal-ball"* what that means then.

*Not even me. LOL
383 posted on 08/16/2002 12:26:21 PM PDT by NatureGirl
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To: wonders
Even if the coyotes didn't find the body, don't you think that the vulchers would have. One way or another, if that body were not wrapped in plastic, insects would have been into it.
384 posted on 08/16/2002 12:27:26 PM PDT by Eva
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
The mummification process, which was proven to be able to start and occur with in 24hrs on a small body

1.) Its not like the freeze dry process and does not occur 'instantaneously' over the whole body at once.
2.) You continually omit that mumification was only found on SOME LIMITED AREAS of Danielle's body, namely the hands, lower legs and face as Blackburn the ME stated. This would seem to indicate that MOST OF DANIELLE VAN DAM'S BODY WAS NOT MUMMIFIED.
3.) The mummification process can indeed start and occur in a limited fashion in the extremities and areas of thin skin within 24 hours however, there was NOT A SINGLE SHRED OF EVIDENCE that mummification at the Blow Fly egg laying sites and maggot mass area, indeed occured in THIS CASE.

Is the mummification expert you rely on for your conclusions the same expert who gave the time of death for Danielle Van Dam somewhere between January 15, 2002 and January 31, 2002, ie; BEFORE Danielle Van Dam was reported missing ?
385 posted on 08/16/2002 12:31:10 PM PDT by pyx
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To: NatureGirl; All
This was posted on the Smokey Backroom forum..You can find it on the sidebar with "forums"

The Smokey Backroom is an enter at your own risk forum. We're going to relax the rules a bit here, as far as heated debate is concerned. There is where you can roll around in the mud and the blood and the beer, so to speak. And if someone gets a piece of his ear bitten off and lets out a curse word or two, he probably won't get banned (as long as he doesn't make a habit of going overboard).

In other words, some of the rules may be loosened up abit in this forum. But not the rules against racism, or leftist propaganda, etc. That kind of stuff is still not welcome on FR. If a flamewar breaks out on FR, we may ask the flamers to take it to the backroom.

Or in some instances, we may move entire threads here. This is an alternative to deleting them. We'll be playing it by ear for awhile and see how it is received.

That is not to say that we're going to welcome vicious or nasty attacks, libel or slander, but if some of you wish to get a bit heated and all of the participants involved have thick skins and are not going to cry about it, here's the place.

posted on 8/l5/02 9:20PM Central by Jim Robinson

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386 posted on 08/16/2002 12:31:38 PM PDT by spectre
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To: the Deejay
That is what the 21-Game theory means. "Nothing has to be proved -- we have a 90%-plus conviction rate. You think we got it by proving things? You gotta be kidding!"
387 posted on 08/16/2002 12:32:41 PM PDT by bvw
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To: pyx
http://members.cox.net/jeneal/PrelimTranscripts/020311p1.txt
THE ME
9 Q. Now, I think you used the word mummification 10 earlier? 11 A. Yes. 12 Q. Can you please tell us at what stage of the 13 decomposition process would you expect mummification to 14 occur? 15 A. Well, mummification occurs only in sort of a dry, 16 warm atmosphere. Commonly in the desert in the summertime. 17 This body was mummified. All the skin that was still 18 present was mummified, a brown leathery appearance.


388 posted on 08/16/2002 12:32:44 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
"Skin" doesn't equal "body."
389 posted on 08/16/2002 12:34:38 PM PDT by small_l_libertarian
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To: KnutCase
My girl friend says I do a lot of things much younger

Didn't you say you were 106 years old?

Your girlfriend must be Anna Maria Smith or someone like her ;-)

390 posted on 08/16/2002 12:37:12 PM PDT by Spunky
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To: Eva
One way or another, if that body were not wrapped in plastic, insects would have been into it.

And if that were the case, it would not have begun to mummify, but rather would have putrefied more quickly. (bleeecccch!)

391 posted on 08/16/2002 12:37:21 PM PDT by shezza
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To: bvw
"You think we got it by proving things? You gotta be kidding!"

ROTFLMRO!!!!!
392 posted on 08/16/2002 12:39:07 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: small_l_libertarian
I never said the entire body was mummified in the first place though. I'm not sure but I think someone assumed I said that??
393 posted on 08/16/2002 12:39:10 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
First of all, her body was not completely mummified.

From my own personal experience, the hands and ears are the first to mummify -- you almost always see mummification of ears and hands. If the person is barefoot (I didn't have many cases of that in my own experience) the feet also mummify rather quickly, toes first. Ears and hands have low mass and low moisture content to begin with, plus a high high surface-to-mass and surface-to-air ratio, so they mummify readily. Particularly if conditions are rather dry and the person not very fat, you will also commonly see mummification of skin on the facial area early on , particularly of the skin covering the forehead, cheekbones and neck.

I can't remember any case I saw in former Yugoslavia where the hands and ears were not at least somewhat mummified (excepting military personnel wearing helmets -- their ears didn't mummify so fast).

There is not so much air flow over the crotch area (think about it), and it also has a higher moisture and fat content, so it doesn't mummify very quickly. Internal organs are not prone to mummification, in my own humble experience. Neither is the brain.

Also, in females, there is easy access to mucous membranes in the crotch area, which is particularly attractive to flies (the first stage of blow fly maggots primarily feeds on mucous membranes) -- and anyone who knows anything about female anatomy knows there's a long trail of mucous membranes from the genital opening up to the cervix for the maggots to feed upon. Anyway, I'm sure these guys have much more experience with partially mummified bodies than I. It's fairly common for the face and extremities to mummify if the body is left in the open. (But NOT if the body is in an enclosed space, such as the RV storage compartment, as Dusek suggested. Mummification requires lots of air flow.)

Also, have a look at my post #973 and CAPPSMADNESS' post #991 on this thread.

394 posted on 08/16/2002 12:39:24 PM PDT by wonders
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
A lot of skin was missing, though.
395 posted on 08/16/2002 12:40:37 PM PDT by sunshine state
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To: shezza
...how much sense does it make for a business (any business) to issue a receipt to their customer that has no identification on it whatsoever, yet their in-store copy is covered with their name, the items, prices, etc.

I used to go to a cleaners that did this all the time. IOW, I never knew how much money I owed until I picked up the cleaning -- and then I never new how much each item cost because they kept the itemized tag. I just got a numbered tag. They used to have a file box where we could leave the tags so that we had them handy when we came to pick up. I had to write my own name on the tag to distinguish it from everybody else's.

The cleaners I use now gives me a total of what will be owed when I drop off the cleaning, but the itemized tag is on the clothes when I pick them up.

396 posted on 08/16/2002 12:40:47 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: NatureGirl
Thanks. That's the term I was looking for.."going around the table"..That's exactly what I was thinking but in too much a hurry to post. I wasn't thinking clearly.
397 posted on 08/16/2002 12:41:18 PM PDT by KnutCase
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
If you're not saying that the body is completely mummified, then what is your basis for saying that the flies would not have been attracted to the body until the coyotes or other animals got to it?
398 posted on 08/16/2002 12:43:04 PM PDT by small_l_libertarian
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To: wonders
Q:SO THAT'S INCONSISTENT WITH THE NOTION THAT THE BODY WOULD HAVE BEEN DEPOSITED SAY ON FEBRUARY 4TH OR FEBRUARY 3RD OR FEBRUARY 2ND, IS THAT RIGHT?

A ABSOLUTELY.


KNOCK IT OFF ! Quit clutterin' up the thread with cogent irrefutable facts !
399 posted on 08/16/2002 12:43:07 PM PDT by pyx
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To: ican'tbelieveit
Thanks, saved my butt!
400 posted on 08/16/2002 12:43:22 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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