Posted on 07/26/2002 11:24:55 AM PDT by Dengar01
Timing Suspicious On Mysterious Suburban Crop Circles
Could Eerie Mystery Have To Do With Movie Release?
Is it a case of mysterious crop circles -- or an elaborate movie hoax?
A soybean farmer in Naperville said the broken, concentric rings that appeared in a field off Diehl Road left him scratching his head.
"Have you ever heard of something so crazy?" Steve Berning said. "Unbelievable."
Berning said the circles appeared last weekend and damaged more than 10 percent of his 8-acre field.
The circles do resemble similar ones seen in England, but in this case, the timing of their appearance in the western suburb is a bit suspicious.
Two weeks from now, "Signs" hits the big screen. The movie starring Mel Gibson involves -- you guessed it -- mysterious crop circles.
William Leone, an investigator with the Mutual UFO Network, said soil analysis could determine whether the circles have human or extraterrestrial origins.
But Illinois Farm Bureau spokesman Dennis Vercler scoffed at that idea.
"Since I don't believe in UFOs -- at least not soybean-destroying UFOs -- I have to assume whoever did this did it intentionally as a malicious prank," Vercler said.
Meanwhile, Berning doesn't seem overly upset about the circles.
"There's some damage, which upsets me," Berning said. "But I'm more curious than anything. I"ll always be asking questions."
Tell that to the archaeologists, anthropologists, and geometricians, as they're the ones that coined the term.
They're not "faked." They're just being made by humans. Nothing fake about them. The problem of "symmetry and precision" is bogus. I've already explained (post 462, 488, and 492), how a very intricate and precise crop circle can be made. With practice, it should be no problem at all. It only required minimal thought to devise the techniques I wrote about. If I really cared, I could do much better. As I said, this ain't rocket science.
Now then, we're left with the "mystery" of "bending the crop at 90 degree angles." Is that what only the aliens know how to do? That's it? You're hanging on by your fingernails. It must be painful.
Show me a documented "hoaxed" formation that displays the symmetry and precision of a REAL formation, then maybe I won't laugh so hard at your claims..
Incidently, how do YOU explain how one would bend ALL of the crops at 90 angles in making the formation without damaging or breaking them? And what about those weaving patterns?
No one has matched up every crop circle with the people who made it. This certainly doesn't prove alien authorship for the anonymous specimens. Not to the rational mind, anyway. If you can show me the aliens, however, I'll pay more attention to your claims.
Incidently, how do YOU explain how one would bend ALL of the crops at 90 angles in making the formation without damaging or breaking them? And what about those weaving patterns?
I have no idea about the 90 degree angles. Maybe the crops just have tough stalks. I wouldn't pin all my hopes for alien visitors on that one. As for the "weaving patterns," I suspect it's just fancy footwork with the crop-stomping snowshoes. Red Skelton used to walk like that all the time for laughs. And he was no alien.
Where have I said that aliens make the formations? What if they WERE in fact something other than aliens, such as humans from the future (or the past)?
I have no idea about the 90 degree angles. Maybe the crops just have tough stalks.
As I said, in the REAL formations, virtually EVERY stalk that is layed down is bent at a 90 angle, so it isn't just a matter of a couple here and there. And again, they aren't damaged or broken, unlike hoaxed formations.
I wouldn't pin all my hopes for alien visitors on that one. As for the "weaving patterns," I suspect it's just fancy footwork with the crop-stomping snowshoes. Red Skelton used to walk like that all the time for laughs. And he was no alien.
I don't think Red Skelton made the following formation, especially considering he's deceased..
Homo sapiens have been here for over a MILLION years. We have rougly 6000 years of recorded history. What happened the other 494,000 years I wonder...
For some reason I was thinking of HALF a million. Obviously, if it were a million that'd be 994,000 years that we don't know about....
I see the crop circle forming as well as two white objects circling around as the crop circle forms.
I do not know what these objects are.
The entire crop circle seems to form all at once, not forming as a sequence of parts of the formation.
Assuming that the film wasn't somehow hoaxed, I would say that this is the best evidence presented so far that suggests that at least one crop circle may possibly be of non-human origin.
However, I also keep in mind that amazing things can be done with video editing (just turn on your TV or visit your local movie theater to witness this).
As I am not an expert in video production or editing, I can not say either way whether the video is of a real event, or just a clever video hoax.
Do you think this video is authentic, or do you believe it to be a hoax?
A great post at any rate!
I'm not sure, but if it IS a hoax, it blows away anything that anyone has done to date. Strange that there hasn't been more mention of it in the press, don't you think?
The video is real, the crop circle forming is real, art the white blobs are the people making the crop circle in time lapse photography. They glow because it was filmed using infrared filters (it was filmed at night). You can track down the original source if you try.
You:
Where have I said that aliens make the formations?
Me, screaming:
Then what the flaming dork is this thread all about?
You:
What if they WERE in fact something other than aliens, such as humans from the future (or the past)?
Oh. It's worse than I feared. Far worse. You have transcended the status of mere cultist. You are beyond medved, who, until now, served as everyone's benchmark for the outer limits of incredible belief-systems. Take a bow, FormerLurker; you've earned it. (Oh, by the way, if humans today are unable -- in your opinion -- to make such formations, then please inform us how humans from the past could accomplish such feats.)
Well thank you. I always strive to "open up New Frontiers"... :)
Unfortunetely, I don't consider anything I've written to be a form of "belief-system", so I don't know if I still qualify for your honor and praise..
(Oh, by the way, if humans today are unable -- in your opinion -- to make such formations, then please inform us how humans from the past could accomplish such feats.)
Ever consider the possibility that we aren't the first technologically advanced civilization to inhabit the Earth? In fact, we might very well be quite primitive in relation to those before us, who through some type of planetary cataclysism were virtually anhililated. In fact, IF there were such a civilization and foresaw such a catastrophic event, and IF they had mastered the knowledge of travel through space and/or time, don't you think they'd do something about leaving where they were and settle somewhere else?
What if WE ourselves are descended from those who inhabited some other world such as that which now makes up the Asteroid belt, and came here to escape such a disaster? Our ancestors may have been virtually wiped out due to disease or natural disaster, and lost most of what knowledge they had. There might be OTHER descendents who escaped to OTHER worlds in space and time, and have located US and are trying to jog our ancestorial memory via the symbolism displayed in so-called crop circles. It's just a thought, and one of an endless list of possibilities if you have an open mind and do in fact consider things possible that are currently impossible due to our limited understanding of the Universe.
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