Mysterious Suburban Chicago Crop Circles

NBC 5 Chicago ^ | 7/26/02 | NBC 5 Chicago

[Dengar01]

Timing Suspicious On Mysterious Suburban Crop Circles
Could Eerie Mystery Have To Do With Movie Release?

Is it a case of mysterious crop circles -- or an elaborate movie hoax?

A soybean farmer in Naperville said the broken, concentric rings that appeared in a field off Diehl Road left him scratching his head.

"Have you ever heard of something so crazy?" Steve Berning said. "Unbelievable."

Berning said the circles appeared last weekend and damaged more than 10 percent of his 8-acre field.

The circles do resemble similar ones seen in England, but in this case, the timing of their appearance in the western suburb is a bit suspicious.

Two weeks from now, "Signs" hits the big screen. The movie starring Mel Gibson involves -- you guessed it -- mysterious crop circles.

William Leone, an investigator with the Mutual UFO Network, said soil analysis could determine whether the circles have human or extraterrestrial origins.

But Illinois Farm Bureau spokesman Dennis Vercler scoffed at that idea.

"Since I don't believe in UFOs -- at least not soybean-destroying UFOs -- I have to assume whoever did this did it intentionally as a malicious prank," Vercler said.

Meanwhile, Berning doesn't seem overly upset about the circles.

"There's some damage, which upsets me," Berning said. "But I'm more curious than anything. I"ll always be asking questions."

[rwfromkansas]

Yep. One guy confesses and that means they are ALL hoaxes.

Hey Patrick.....would you say that because some scientists create fraudulent bones to support evolution, they are all frauds? I didn't think so.

Can anyone say.....THE EVOLUTIONIST IS A HYPOCRITE!

[balrog666]

Some are hoaxes. But to suggest that every single one.....and there are a lot, are hoaxes, doesn't make much sense to me.

Well... In every case where we know how they were constructed, they were made by humans. And, by the way, it's not a hoax, it's *ART*.

The perfect design and perfect bending over of the crop in some cases makes me think they can't be all hoaxes.

Perfect design as seen from a mile away? BFD.
Perfect bending over of the crop? How many have you seen up close? How many have you touched? You don't think the makers have more than one construction technique?
Again, it's not a hoax, it's *ART* - that's why they get permission from the field owner.

[UCANSEE2]

CLUES,CLUES,CLUES

(1)Most know what the simple representation of a radio wave looks like. Or the representation of electrical current.

We have seen it on oscilloscopes.

Now, what do radio waves using AM look like?

What do radio waves using FM look like?

Most types of EMITTED signals are not emitted in one direction.

WHAT DO VARIOUS EMITTED SIGNALS (radio,microwave,x-ray) look like IN 3 DIMENSIONS ?????

One poster came closest to figuring out the source or way crop circles are produced.

I say the most reasonable explanation is a group of black budget research scientist who don't get out much playing with microwave electro-magnetic weapons. It gets started so easily.

One turns to the other and says ( Here hold muy beer & watch this )

250 posted on 7/27/02 8:43 AM Pacific by Confederate Keyester

Now, consider this. Earth is not the only planet that has bored scientists.

[rwfromkansas]

Thanks for the info. Shows that not all of these have been occurring since the circles became the rage.

[rwfromkansas]

Please explain heightened radiation etc. around crop circles.

[FormerLurker]

What are we to make of that? Well, if you multiply 33 by 20 you get 666, a highly significant number. But where does the 20 come from? Ah, there's the mystery. So much to learn about "Sacred Geometry" with its "vibrational resonances."

If you are proclaiming that (33 X 20) = 666, I really don't think I need to prove that you are a bit challenged in the Math department. Was that an example of your "everything is 5" theorem, where 5=6=20=666, or did you simply have Balrog in your thoughts?

[rwfromkansas]

If you can achieve what post 83 says about genuine crop circles and provide proof from scientists coming out to investigate that you replicated everything perfectly, you have succeeded. If you don't even do one thing, you have failed. Try it. Let's see if it works.

[rwfromkansas]

Explain away post 83. And I still want to hear you say (since you claim because you post one man saying he hoaxed a circle that they are all hoaxes) that because some scientists have resorted to fraud on evolution, they are all frauds.

[FormerLurker]

Funny though how every circle that HAS been made by humans is less than symmetrical and geometrically correct. And yes, SCIENTISTS have examined REAL formations and found the EM and RF fields to be elevated in direct relation to the pattern of the formation. And they HAVE found that the crops have been BENT at 90 degrees, not broken as in HOAXED circles. How many crop circle formations have YOU personally analyzed balrog?

I said ANALYZED, not ANALIZED.

[rwfromkansas]

Don't forget....he also has to replicate changes in molecular structure and radiation etc.

[balrog666]

Please explain heightened radiation etc. around crop circles.

BWAAAAAAAAAHAHAHA!

What radiation? At what frequency? As measured how? What's the power spectral density? And heightened as compared to what exactly? Please be specific.

Why didn't you even read the crop-maker rules for selecting the construction site before posting that one?

[general_re]

I'll repeat my earlier offer - how much would it be worth to you to find out if I can do it?

[balrog666]

Explain away post 83.

Ah. I forgot about post #83. I guess it all boils down to him trying to sell books.

[general_re]

Doesn't matter - I'll bet I can match both the IR and EM "anomalies"... ;)

[rwfromkansas]

Note also that the evolutionist says since one guy is a hoaxer, everything is a hoax. He doesn't say that when it comes to scientists faking evolution data though, does he......:)

[discostu]

It's not hoaxes, it's art. If they were hoaxes the makers would be trying to convince people they were "real", they're not, they just make their pretty pictures and go. That's called art (actually it's called graffiti, but most of that looks better than the crap people call art these days).

And be careful about trying to tie this into a crevo arguement. A lot of the UFOnauts think the aliens put life on this planet. You could find yourself calling God a little green man if you don't step lively.

[balrog666]

Funny though how every circle that HAS been made by humans is less than symmetrical and geometrically correct.

Allow me to point out that you have yet to provide any evidence that *ANY* crop circles were made by other than human means. Given the three groups advertising their efforts making them in just the UK, I see no reason to suppose little green men did any of them.

And yes, SCIENTISTS have examined REAL formations and found the EM and RF fields to be elevated in direct relation to the pattern of the formation.

Gosh, shall I take three whole seconds to speculate as to how I could accomplish that little trick while you still postulate that little green men did it? You can work it out for yourself or ask any schoolboy with a magnetic science project.

And they HAVE found that the crops have been BENT at 90 degrees, not broken as in HOAXED circles.

See above. I can do it without little green men. So can any artist who wants to.

How many crop circle formations have YOU personally analyzed balrog?

None. I also haven't analyzed any fairy rings, pyramids, sightings of Atlantis, or lost unicorns.

I said ANALYZED, not ANALIZED.

Well, get your head out of the gutter then.

[balrog666]

Doesn't matter - I'll bet I can match both the IR and EM "anomalies"... ;)

Yep - bet we could introduce a lot more than that too.
Anyway, I just typed too slow and you lapped me. Isn't this fun?

[invenire]

"There is nothing "sacred" about geometry."

Perhaps in the day,the only ones with this type of formal knowlede were the priesthood.

That to me would be an explanation of the use of the word "sacred",and reason enough why this group would keep this knowledge to themselves.

Keep the masses fearful and ignorant to keep your power over them.

How the priesthood acquired this knowledge,I'm not going there.(shrugging shoulders and signing off)

[PatrickHenry]

Explain away post 83. And I still want to hear you say (since you claim because you post one man saying he hoaxed a circle that they are all hoaxes) that because some scientists have resorted to fraud on evolution, they are all frauds.

I don't have to explain anything. If you claim these crop circles are generated by aliens, it's up to you to prove it. I don't have to dis-prove it. And your attempted analogy to evolution is quite lame. There have been a few hoaxes, maybe 3 or 4 that we're all familiar with. But there are hundreds of thousands of verifiably genuine fossils. If you want to say that the evolutionist is equally as whacked-out as the crop-circle freak, that's up to you.