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Mysterious Suburban Chicago Crop Circles
NBC 5 Chicago ^ | 7/26/02 | NBC 5 Chicago

Posted on 07/26/2002 11:24:55 AM PDT by Dengar01

Timing Suspicious On Mysterious Suburban Crop Circles
Could Eerie Mystery Have To Do With Movie Release?

Is it a case of mysterious crop circles -- or an elaborate movie hoax?

A soybean farmer in Naperville said the broken, concentric rings that appeared in a field off Diehl Road left him scratching his head.

"Have you ever heard of something so crazy?" Steve Berning said. "Unbelievable."

Berning said the circles appeared last weekend and damaged more than 10 percent of his 8-acre field.

The circles do resemble similar ones seen in England, but in this case, the timing of their appearance in the western suburb is a bit suspicious.

Two weeks from now, "Signs" hits the big screen. The movie starring Mel Gibson involves -- you guessed it -- mysterious crop circles.

William Leone, an investigator with the Mutual UFO Network, said soil analysis could determine whether the circles have human or extraterrestrial origins.

But Illinois Farm Bureau spokesman Dennis Vercler scoffed at that idea.

"Since I don't believe in UFOs -- at least not soybean-destroying UFOs -- I have to assume whoever did this did it intentionally as a malicious prank," Vercler said.

Meanwhile, Berning doesn't seem overly upset about the circles.

"There's some damage, which upsets me," Berning said. "But I'm more curious than anything. I"ll always be asking questions."


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To: general_re
All you need to know from Scientific American: Crop Circle Confession .
61 posted on 07/26/2002 1:16:33 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: FormerLurker
Ping!
62 posted on 07/26/2002 1:16:45 PM PDT by Momaw Nadon
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To: Orual
Excellent info. It's amazing how they can take designs that are hard enough to do on paper and then replicate them to 240' in the middle of the night while not being able to see their work as it progresses. Impressive.
63 posted on 07/26/2002 1:17:01 PM PDT by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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To: general_re
You could really do it all alone if you weren't in a hurry and you had some stakes, but having at least one other person help would let you avoid leaving evidence in the form of stake-marks...

Who said there were no stakemarks? If you saw the little holes, would you recognize them as stakemarks? And, finally, if they mattered, why wouldn't the makers take an extra 30 seconds and cover them up?

As for precision, a couple of $2 pen lasers (1000m range) will give you all the precision you need. Although I note that we never see pictures from close up (at ground level) to check the regularity of the edges, the probable spacing of the board, marks from ropes, undisguised footprints, or errors, etc.

64 posted on 07/26/2002 1:19:17 PM PDT by balrog666
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To: Dengar01
One day back in the mid-70's when I was driving a tractor on the family farm in Tennessee I happened apone a strange, perfectly circular indentation in one of our wheat fields. This was maybe twenty years before I ever heard of a "crop circle".

I recall turning around and bringing the tractor alongside to stop and ponder it for a few minutes - and if you knew about my dad's "sunny dispostion" you'd know that taking a break was a very *rare* occurance.

Since that day I've walked in many interesting and secret places - the hallways of NASA - inside nuclear bunkers - but never since have seen anything as completely strange as that one simple circle.

65 posted on 07/26/2002 1:21:02 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: PatrickHenry
The whole episode taught me two important lessons. First, treat all experts with skepticism and look out for their vested interests

Sound advice for any issue...

66 posted on 07/26/2002 1:25:50 PM PDT by dubyagee
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To: Orual
How to make crop circles. How to make really complicated crop circles.

Thanks for the links. I stand corrected - it's even easier than I originally thought.

I'm sure that if we'd heard of these things in my college days, we'd made a few cartiods or leminscate figures or something totally bizarre too.

67 posted on 07/26/2002 1:26:39 PM PDT by balrog666
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To: sphinx
A couple of guys in England got a lot of play two or three years back when they confessed to several they had done. Some of their work was quite elaborate.

If you're referring to the "Circle Makers", previously known as "Team Satan", although they may have created somewhat elaborate formations, they've never been able to duplicate the symmetry, mathmatical and geometric precision, or the "bending effect" found in actual crop circle formations. Also lacking is the celluar changes, background EM/RF emissions, and elevated radiation levels.

In fact, in a attempt to create an elaborate formation, they spent DAYS in New Zealand in creating one in the DAY. Again, it lacked symmetry and geometric precision, as well as the other aforementioned characteristics.

For more info, click below..

THE ANATOMY OF DECEPTION.

68 posted on 07/26/2002 1:30:08 PM PDT by FormerLurker
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To: Dengar01
They are very impressive in imagination and technique but I can't believe that people still think they are made by anything other than a few guys with boards, ropes, and too much spare time on their hands. The people that make them even admit making them and some of the "researchers" still think they are made by aliens. Sheesh!

Also, if I was this farmer and had just lost 10% of my crop to a prank, then some "aliens" would be going to jail or pay the damages if I could catch them!

69 posted on 07/26/2002 1:31:04 PM PDT by Reagan is King
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To: Orual
Check out post #68, you'll see that the "Circle Makers" whom you've linked are proven frauds.
70 posted on 07/26/2002 1:32:24 PM PDT by FormerLurker
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To: Dengar01
Sounds like a slow news day in Chicago.
71 posted on 07/26/2002 1:32:45 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: Momaw Nadon
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72 posted on 07/26/2002 1:33:18 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: Momaw Nadon
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73 posted on 07/26/2002 1:34:14 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: balrog666
Who said there were no stakemarks? If you saw the little holes, would you recognize them as stakemarks? And, finally, if they mattered, why wouldn't the makers take an extra 30 seconds and cover them up?

Nobody said that here, but I've seen the lack of stakemarks touted elsewhere as evidence of otherworldly origins.

Silliness. The dead giveaway of human origins on 90% of these things, like the one picture in the thread here, is that they're basically six-pointed designs. That's exceedingly easy to do with nothing more than a long piece of rope and something to flatten the stalks. This is basically the old middle-school geometry method of inscribing a hexagon within a circle using a compass and straightedge, writ large. Your rope functions as both the compass and the straightedge in these cases, and it's absurdly easy to do.

I'm halfway tempted to call some friends and give it a whirl, just to see how fast we can pull it off. You can really get some surprisingly complex designs with just a bit of planning....

74 posted on 07/26/2002 1:34:26 PM PDT by general_re
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To: Orual
I like the second one of those links - they were clever enough to make an eight-pointed design, and thereby avoid going for the easy and obvious six-pointed (or some multiple thereof) designs that are so common. Not that the ease of making these things will ever convince some that they're of human origin...
75 posted on 07/26/2002 1:37:58 PM PDT by general_re
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To: FormerLurker
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2002/windmillhill/windmillhill2002reconstruction.html
76 posted on 07/26/2002 1:39:21 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: general_re
I'm halfway tempted to call some friends and give it a whirl, just to see how fast we can pull it off. You can really get some surprisingly complex designs with just a bit of planning....
____________________________

You will fail big guy. Check out link in my post #76.
77 posted on 07/26/2002 1:40:35 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: FormerLurker
I'm sure that all these circles are frauds, but I saw the documentary about these two guys and they demonstrated their technique. It was quite simple and required no special equipment. I'll check out the link you referenced. Below is the blurb from the "complicated circles" link.

"In late July 2001 circlemakers John Lundberg, Rod Dickinson and Wil Russell created a complex 240ft crop circle formation (pictured right) that was commissioned by broadcaster HTV West for their 30 minute television documentary about the crop circle phenomenon. The formation took approximately 4 hours to construct under cover of darkness and was located in the Beckhampton area, in the shadow of Silbury Hill. The formation consists of eight fold geometry and is certainly amongst the most complex formations to appear in the 2001 season, spanning 240ft and consisting of 178 individual standing and flattened elements. Because of the delicate nature of the design there was very little room for error in the surveying of the formation."

78 posted on 07/26/2002 1:42:04 PM PDT by Orual
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To: FormerLurker
Did you read this in that report you linked to?

"My own analysis is suggesting that this crop circle, along with two other crop circles of the season, may have been the product of weapons testing. The ground evidence suggests that an energy in the microwave region has been used. Genuine crop circles contain traceable electromagnetic energy (in the mid to high MHz range), which ally with biological and brainwave states (these would be responsible for the changes in chromosomes in crop circles plants, and for the range of physiological affects on visitors); microwave however operates in the GHz range and tends to leave plants and soil sterile (the opposite is true in genuine crop circles). Technology capable of transmiting coded information at such a range was recently switched on in Alaska, under the U.S. military's secret project HAARP. It's just a thought..."

Dunno, but he sounds like a nut to me.

79 posted on 07/26/2002 1:46:32 PM PDT by Orual
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To: dennisw
Why would I fail? I wouldn't do it by inscribing triangles like on that page - that's a pain in the butt, so I'd start with the large circle and work inward, but it's not at all hard. That web page tells you basically how to do it. The outer points are easy - splitting a circle into 60 sections is hardly difficult.

It's a dead giveaway that it's a multiple of six. I'd bet good money that with me and five other guys, working in three pairs, we could get it done in under three hours. It's time-consuming, sure, but hardly difficult...

80 posted on 07/26/2002 1:48:24 PM PDT by general_re
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