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Mysterious Suburban Chicago Crop Circles
NBC 5 Chicago ^ | 7/26/02 | NBC 5 Chicago

Posted on 07/26/2002 11:24:55 AM PDT by Dengar01

Timing Suspicious On Mysterious Suburban Crop Circles
Could Eerie Mystery Have To Do With Movie Release?

Is it a case of mysterious crop circles -- or an elaborate movie hoax?

A soybean farmer in Naperville said the broken, concentric rings that appeared in a field off Diehl Road left him scratching his head.

"Have you ever heard of something so crazy?" Steve Berning said. "Unbelievable."

Berning said the circles appeared last weekend and damaged more than 10 percent of his 8-acre field.

The circles do resemble similar ones seen in England, but in this case, the timing of their appearance in the western suburb is a bit suspicious.

Two weeks from now, "Signs" hits the big screen. The movie starring Mel Gibson involves -- you guessed it -- mysterious crop circles.

William Leone, an investigator with the Mutual UFO Network, said soil analysis could determine whether the circles have human or extraterrestrial origins.

But Illinois Farm Bureau spokesman Dennis Vercler scoffed at that idea.

"Since I don't believe in UFOs -- at least not soybean-destroying UFOs -- I have to assume whoever did this did it intentionally as a malicious prank," Vercler said.

Meanwhile, Berning doesn't seem overly upset about the circles.

"There's some damage, which upsets me," Berning said. "But I'm more curious than anything. I"ll always be asking questions."


TOPICS: UFO's
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To: discostu
Did you really have to spam the thread with all that rubish? There's no reason to read beyond here: These geometrical archetypes, reveal to us the nature of each form and its vibrational resonances.

Well you might as well just tell us that there's no such thing as a pyramid or triangle, all the more complex figures that you more than likely never heard of are all just hogwash, and that all of the great mathematicians that ever lived were just a bunch of idiots...

201 posted on 07/26/2002 10:23:30 PM PDT by FormerLurker
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To: Texasforever
Yeah right...Thanks for nuttin'!
202 posted on 07/26/2002 10:24:32 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: FormerLurker
You aren't spamming. Crop circle threads are heavy graphics and slow loading. So what!
203 posted on 07/26/2002 10:25:54 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: general_re
I just love buzzwords don't you? The wonderful world of Total Quality Management, ISO 9000 and "How to win the Malcolm Baldridge Award and go broke in the same year".
204 posted on 07/26/2002 10:26:51 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: dennisw
Yeah right...Thanks for nuttin'!

LOL Ya gets whats ya pays for.

205 posted on 07/26/2002 10:29:04 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: FormerLurker
There's a big difference between believing in shapes, which is just a stupid assertion how could anyone not believe in a shape, and believing said shape has mystical powers. If you're an audio engineer talking about the vibrational resonances of an auditorium I'm listening. If you're a freakazoid talking about the vibrational resonances of broken corn I can't possibly take you seriously.
206 posted on 07/26/2002 10:32:06 PM PDT by discostu
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To: FormerLurker
Fibonacci bump
207 posted on 07/26/2002 10:35:12 PM PDT by al-andalus
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To: dennisw
He's spamming. He just put a couple dozen pages worth of gobblygook on here. Very little in the way of graphics, just tons of text. If he'd put up a bunch of pictures I wouldn't be upset, crop circles are pretty. But he didn't, he put up a bunch of rubbish, a LARGE bunch of rubbish.
208 posted on 07/26/2002 10:37:05 PM PDT by discostu
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To: Dengar01
this is like the ufo hoaxes, always way out in the country in some podunk town...why don't they make circles in the downtowns of cities like LA, New York, or Boston where all the people are?
209 posted on 07/26/2002 10:41:01 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch
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To: discostu
My dad was a very frugal (cheap) man. LOL In the '70's he saw a commercial for a small pyramid that was guaranteed to sharpen razor blades. He bought one. The next week he bought new razor blades and band-aids.
210 posted on 07/26/2002 10:41:12 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
I remember "pyramid power". I always thought it was suspicious that the pyramid fad hit at the end of two decades of heavy drug use in our country. Right along side orange plaid bellbottoms and leisure suits, really the pyramid caps accessorized pretty well.

Let that be a lesson to the kids out there, take a look at the fashion of the late 70s. Drugs make you dumb, that's a simple undeniable truth.
211 posted on 07/26/2002 10:49:01 PM PDT by discostu
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To: InvisibleChurch
They're afraid they'll get mugged.
212 posted on 07/26/2002 10:49:55 PM PDT by discostu
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To: discostu
Yep, and Disco too.
213 posted on 07/26/2002 10:50:33 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Momaw Nadon
Very intricate!
214 posted on 07/26/2002 10:55:53 PM PDT by DennisR
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To: Texasforever
The wonderful world of Total Quality Management, ISO 9000 and "How to win the Malcolm Baldridge Award and go broke in the same year".

I always had problems with that sort of thing. But then I discovered this website, and there's no looking back now.

I just sprinkle a few of those phrases in the memos and notes that I write, and look at me now! I don't know a g*dd*mn thing, but I'm Executive VP for the whole North American division! Oh, sure, some might say we're "bleeding cash" or "about to go belly-up", but I just put that we're "well-positioned for future growth" in the annual report, and it's all gravy!

:^)

215 posted on 07/26/2002 11:11:24 PM PDT by general_re
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To: general_re
LMAO. It is not what you say but HOW you say it.
216 posted on 07/26/2002 11:13:08 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: InvisibleChurch
this is like the ufo hoaxes, always way out in the country in some podunk town...why don't they make circles in the downtowns of cities like LA, New York, or Boston where all the people are?

Umm actually Naperville has 130,000 people. It is hard to call Naperville a podunk town. I could understand if your statement regarded a country town in the middle of nowhere. But Naperville is still part of the Chicago Metropolitan Area along with fact that this city is the 4th largest in Illinois, not some small town.

217 posted on 07/26/2002 11:23:02 PM PDT by Dengar01
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To: Dengar01
Let's, just for a second, go with the alien origin of these crop circles. I have to question the media they are using. Symbols are the communication media of primitive civilizations. Now, are the symbols used in crop circles an alien form of communication WITH a primitive civilization OR are the symbols the language of the Aliens themselves?
218 posted on 07/26/2002 11:31:21 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: longshadow
If you had ever studied Mathematics, you would know that "Sacred Geometry" is a nothing more than the product of mystical astonishment on the part of people whose understanding of Mathematics was nowhere near what it is today.

If YOU had ever studied Mathematics, you'd know that the Mathematicians who studied "Sacred Geometry" gave us our most basic and fundamental knowledge of Mathmematics and Geometry.

Modern Mathematicians don't waste much of their time on "gee-whiz" stuff like "what's the value of Phi to a bazillion decimal places?"

Well then I guess the University of Arizona (amongst others) must be living in the stone age...

The Golden Ratio

If I am wrong about this, then there should be no shortage of non-introductory or non-remedial course offerings that are devoted to the study of "Sacred Geometry" in the Math Department course catalogs of virtually every top-50 University.

But I've never heard of any of them offering such a course...

One example..

University of Buffalo - EGYPTIAN GEOMETRY

OTOH, such things as "Phi," the "Golden ratio," etc., are widely covered in intro-level survey courses for non-technical majors and in History of Mathematics type courses, as curiosities from a bygone era of Mathematics.

Your ignorance of the topic is quite obvious here. Phi is a universal constant that is used in Mathematics, Physics, and related fields such as Geometry and Astronomy. The Golden Mean is also widely used. Even DNA follows the Golden Section.

DNA

The The Fibonacci Numbers are used extensively and relate to the golden ratio, and can even be found in the Mandlebrot set.

Fibonacci Number

Boston University - The Fibonacci Series

Mandelbrot Morsels

The Mathematics of the Fibonacci series

The Math Forum @ Drexel

e-zgeometry.com

dmoz.org

The Fib-Phi Link Page

Now, if space aliens are smart enough to do the Mathematics it would take to do the physics of designing spacecraft that can travel the galaxy, and if they were visiting Earth, would they be stomping messages about some mystical, naive "Sacred Geometry" in wheat fields, or would they be more likely to depict some more advanced Mathematical message that would clearly denote their technical sophistication?

They more than likely would depict something that you wouldn't understand, be it fractals or the Pythagorian Theorum. "Sacred Geometry" has been around since at least the Egyptians, and more than likely so have they.

219 posted on 07/26/2002 11:32:24 PM PDT by FormerLurker
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To: dennisw
Crop circle threads are heavy graphics and slow loading. So what!

They don't like to see evidence of that they find hard to debunk.

220 posted on 07/26/2002 11:33:57 PM PDT by FormerLurker
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