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Fox's "Bachelorettes in Alaska"
Myself | 07-08-02 | Theodore R.

Posted on 07/08/2002 4:19:30 PM PDT by Theodore R.

The Fox Network has concluded a "reality" series called "Bachelorettes in Alaska" in which five women ranging in age from their late twenties to their mid-thirties tried to select potential husbands from a group of men ranging in age from the middle twenties to the early forties. The program ran about five weeks. Each woman was actively seeking an Alaskan HUSBAND, or at least that was the theme of the program. However, not all the men were really seeking wives, as the women found out.

Two of the spurned women in their mid-thirties were trying to choose men UNDER thirty. The women were very sincere, but the young men were using them. "Why buy the cow, when you can sip on the milk," as the old saying goes. Fox presented the couples in occasional intimate contact. The women never seemed to understand that by giving their all prior to marriage that they were not attracting the men! They made themselves into easy vehicles for momentary pleasure. The men felt that the women were trying to trap them. Such a simple lesson was apparently not imparted to these young women by their mothers and certainly not by the "women's movement."

Two of the five found "husbands" up to a point. Really what they found were men willing to pursue a long-distance relationship after the series ended. One of the two men (at 31, the same age as the woman) seemed more serious than the other and did offer a vague marriage proposals. However, with the stipulations, one might argue that it was not a real proposal.

The other three women were left at the "altar," which the series called "Proposal Point."

To me as a middle-aged male viewer, I found the conclusion entirely predictable. The women were seeking to make husbands out of men who would not commit. There were at least three men (late thirties or early forties), who I THINK (It's just my hunch.) would have come through for the three spurned women, but each chose the wrong (and younger) man.

Rush Limbaugh on his radio program Monday just revealed a new report about men shying from marriage out of fear that they would take a financial beating if the marriage failed as well as lose much contact with their children through fallacious "joint custody" agreements. See what the "women's movement" has wrought. If I were a young woman, I would demand a refund from Betty Freidan, Kate Millett, and Gloria Steinem.


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1 posted on 07/08/2002 4:19:30 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.
You would think they'd have learned their lesson with the Marry a Millionaire fiasco.
2 posted on 07/08/2002 4:23:41 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Theodore R.
In Alaska you don't lose your woman, you just lose your turn.
3 posted on 07/08/2002 4:26:09 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: Theodore R.
This would've made a better sit com.
4 posted on 07/08/2002 4:29:06 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: Theodore R.
men shying from marriage out of fear that they would take a financial beating if the marriage failed as well as lose much contact with their children

Bingo.

Why have the responsibilities of marriage, with none of the priveleges? Especially if women think the only way they can be taken seriously by men is to act in a masculine manner....

A question for women:

How many women want to date a man who acts like a WOMAN....?

5 posted on 07/08/2002 4:33:17 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Theodore R.
Now, I doubt that the older women wanted younger men for much besides besides sex, anyway.
6 posted on 07/08/2002 4:33:57 PM PDT by Post Toasties
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To: Theodore R.
Wait now. Sissie found something real, she moved up to Alaska after everybody met the parents (she got struck with love at first sight, avoided the other men and by episode 3 was looking at the local want ads). Andrea was just being stupid, her man said multiple times he didn't think it would work out (and the rules Fox cooked up put all the power with the woman, IMHO she should have switched to Patrick who was really cool and actually liked her, instead she stuck with Christian who looked like a wuss and complained about her constantly). I felt bad for the other blonde who followed a similar path as Sissie but it led no where. Both the brunettes were just stupid form the start. The skinny was just a little tramp and I seriously doubt she was looking for anything close to permanent. Cece fell for the guy who had seirous doubts about even being on the show and wouldn't stop talking about him after she kicked him off.

As for the milk and cow thing every time I hear it that phrase gets stupider. Women like sex too, you could as easily turn the phrase around. And really, if all either member is interested in is sex then you're not going to get better results by holding out, you'll just get rid of the person faster which might or might not be desirable, but you're not going to see some miraculous conversion. Some people enter into relationships looking for fun, some are looking for something deep and meaningful; as long as both people have the same desire going in things usually work out pretty well.

I love these Fox shows. I marvel at what kind of idiot would put their love life on Fox, and the great part is that because they're stupid they're relationships are almost always hideous torture. And frankly it's fun to watch stupid people screw themselves up. Each episode is its own little treatise on the wheel of karma, fun stuff.
7 posted on 07/08/2002 4:34:06 PM PDT by discostu
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To: Theodore R.
The women never seemed to understand that by giving their all prior to marriage that they were not attracting the men!

Just like the TV show Sex in the City, where the women there end up having sex with just about every guy they meet. Those guys can be around the women when they want, they need make no serious or formal commitment, and they can have sex whenever they want. Then, in every show, the women decry the fact that there are no men willing to commit to marriage. Surprise, surprise!

8 posted on 07/08/2002 4:34:19 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: Theodore R.
If I were a young woman, I would demand a refund from Betty Freidan, Kate Millett, and Gloria Steinem.

Who would want their daughter to grow up like Betty Freidan or Gloria Steinem?

9 posted on 07/08/2002 4:35:10 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: Theodore R.
Can you spell d-e-s-p-e-r-a-t-i-o-n? These women sacrificed all pride in order to appear on national television and risk being rejected.

I'm ashamed to say I watched this at midnight last night, and stayed awake for its entirety. It was apparent to me that all suitors and prospective brides were more impressed by themselves than by each other. No one that selfish is an ideal spouse, no matter how good they look.

10 posted on 07/08/2002 4:37:36 PM PDT by ivoteright
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To: Theodore R.

ROFL..

You can just imagine how the conversation went with their airheaded "potential husbands":

"The weather has been nice for this time of year and you've got such big, wonderful boobs."

"You say the sweetest things, dear.."

LOL! LOL!

11 posted on 07/08/2002 4:44:49 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: Theodore R.
Recently a "Husband Shopping Center" opened in Dallas, where women could go to choose a husband from among many men.  It was laid out in five floors, with the men increasing in positive attributes as you ascended up the floors.  The only rule was, once you opened the door to any floor, you must choose a man from that floor, and if you went up a floor, you couldn't go back down except to leave the place never to return.

A couple of girlfriends go to the place to find men.  First floor, the door had a sign saying "These men have jobs and love kids."  The women read the sign and say, "Well, that's better than not having jobs, or not loving kids, but I wonder what's further up?" So up they go.

Second floor says "These men have high paying jobs, love kids, and are extremely good looking." Hmmm, say the girls. But, I wonder what's further up?

Third floor: "These men have high paying jobs, are extremely good looking, love kids and help with the housework." Wow! say the women. Very tempting, BUT, there's more further up! And up they go.

Fourth floor: "These men have high paying jobs, love kids, are extremely good looking, help with the housework, and have a strong romantic streak."  Oh, mercy me.  But just think!  What must be awaiting us further on!

So up to the fifth floor they go. The sign on that door said, "This floor is empty and exists only to prove that women are impossible to please.  Goodbye."  

12 posted on 07/08/2002 4:45:40 PM PDT by GBA
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To: Theodore R.
Rupert Murdoch is the Anti-Christ bump,
13 posted on 07/08/2002 4:48:13 PM PDT by ContentiousObjector
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To: Theodore R.
I'm not surprised this was such a fiasco. I snapped up the last really good available man in Alaska in 1972. Tough luck, ladies!
14 posted on 07/08/2002 4:48:24 PM PDT by redhead
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To: Theodore R.
They would have done better trying to make the men commit to a shack-up job. Even the guys in Alaska know better than to marry them.
15 posted on 07/08/2002 4:49:34 PM PDT by Don Myers
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To: gaijin; Theodore R.
I agree with both of you. So does FREDONEVERYTHING.NET:




Marriage, Bubonic Plague, And Infected Warts

If You Have A Choice, Go With The Warts





If I could offer a young man one piece of sage advice, it would be this:

Don't get married.

Don't do it. Come the divorce, as come it probably will, the courts will systematically shear you of your children, your house, and huge amounts of your income for twenty years. Don't do it. It isn't worth it. Nothing is.

My saying this usually brings, from women, cries that I'm an extremist or woman-hater. No. The problem is not women, but the courts. Men can behave every bit as reprehensibly as women, though they go about it differently. But the judicial system, which is politicized to the gills, utterly favors women over men in divorce cases, without remorse, decency, or concern for children.

Should you doubt this, read, before you pop the most foolish of questions, From Courtship to Courthouse by the divorce lawyer Jed Abraham.*

Writes Abraham, "If you're like most men, you're married, or you hope to marry some day. You think you deserve to live happily ever after, but if things don't work out that way, you'll get a civilized divorce and move on. You'll stay pals with your ex, and you'll see your kids as often as you want.

"You have no idea what you're getting into."

And you don't. Not the faintest freaking clue.

A few facts from Abraham:

"The odds are 50% that your marriage will end in divorce. The odds are 70% that your divorce will be filed by your wife. The odds are 80% that your wife will get custody of your children-plus child support, alimony, and/or a hefty chunk of your property."

That is how it is.

Yes, I know: You don't think this applies to you. Cup Cake loves you. She would never behave in such a way. Think again. You have no conception of the hatred that divorce engenders. Men are callous; women are mean. When a family breaks up, when a life dreamed of disappears in flames and emotions go limbic, women are not the kinder sex, and certainly not the more rational. And Cup Cake will have the absolute upper hand, with the full power of the state to help her express her dissatisfaction with you.

Abraham: "If your wages are not withheld and you fail to pay your child support, the State will garnish your pay, slap liens on your property, intercept your tax refunds, report you to credit agencies, discontinue your driver's license, suspend your professional and business permits, hold you in contempt of court, put your face on a wanted poster, throw you in jail, and deny you food stamps. But if your ex doesn't spend that very same support on the children, the State will do. . . nothing."

It gets worse. There is, for example, "imputed income." This means that your child support will be based not on what your children need, not on what you earn, but on what the court decides you could earn.

Don't do it.

If you love Cup Cake, live with her. Be kind to her. Be loyal to her. She may be as nice as you think she is: Many women are. Buy her roses. Just don't marry her, or have children with her. If the laws were even-handed, marriage would be an admirable institution. The laws aren't equal.

But it's the kids she'll use, should things get nasty, to tear your guts out. If you're sure that Cup Cake won't do this, you're crazy. True, she may not. Not all women do, or not to the same degree. But you won't know until it's too late. And the courts will do anything she wants.

Abraham: "Your ex will warm to calling all the shots. She may cancel your visitation now and then. If she's truly mean-spirited, she'll go much further. Under the cover of her court-appointed role as sole custodian, she'll systematically sever your relationship with the children. She'll badmouth you to them. She'll schedule their extracurricular activities during your visitation time. For good measure, she may accuse you of domestic violence and child abuse."

Think "joint custody" is the answer? The courts won't enforce it. What are you going to do-sue Mommy? The kids will hate you for it. Do you believe in pre-nups? The courts ignore them. Read Abraham. It's all there.

Then, says Abraham, there's the killer: "More efficiently, your ex may simply move with the children to a distant community, with the law's acquiescence."

Kids are the crunch, guys. They hurt. And she will know it, and use it. The courts will help her. At bottom, the position of the courts is that the children are her property, like furniture. Judges don't care about you at all.

Ever drive away from what used to be your home, with your daughter of four streaking across the parking lot, yelling, "Daddy! Daddy! Please come back!"-and you can't?

Ever have your little girl of four say, "Daddy, can I get my birthday present early?"

"Why, Pumpkin?"

"Well. . . after the divorce we might move, and I won't see you again."

That's what you are in for, guys. Don't do it. You'll be suicidally depressed, miss your kids to the point of desperation, be almost frantic-and the courts will make sure you can do nothing about it. The ex will probably enjoy it.

That's the reality. Don't believe it? Talk to men who have been there.

Why do women do these things? Not because they're evil. Cup Cake is probably a perfectly decent woman in her dealing with the rest of the earth. She'll do it because she hates you, which is the normal outcome of a divorce. She'll do it because she can. She's furious because the marriage didn't work, which will be entirely your fault.

And the law gives her every incentive: She will get the house, the kids, the child support-and she knows she will. If women knew they had an even chance of not getting custody, of having to pay child support, the divorce rate would drop like a prom dress and joint custody would suddenly mean joint custody. Women love their children as much as men do.

But that's not how it is. The courts encourage divorce, and they rape men. Get used to it.

Abraham: "The odds are it doesn't pay for you to marry and have kids."

That's a fact, guys. Think about it.

* From Courtship To Courtroom by Jed Abraham. Amazon has it, $14.95

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16 posted on 07/08/2002 4:53:26 PM PDT by RobRoy
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To: gaijin
Especially if women think the only way they can be taken seriously by men is to act in a masculine manner....

I guess it depends on just how masculine your perspective is.

From my personal point of view the wimmin you whiners are always complaining about are plenty feminine and are glad I'm not.

I suppose they might look pretty masculine and threatening to the Phil Donahues and Allen Aldas of the world.

So9

17 posted on 07/08/2002 5:42:11 PM PDT by Servant of the Nine
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To: Theodore R.
Well lets see I'm a young man/woman and I'm going to go a nationally televised show in the hopes of finding a husband/wife.
Now what's wrong with this picture?
And why do the words "Ken and Barbie" pop into my head?
18 posted on 07/08/2002 8:42:27 PM PDT by Valin
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To: RobRoy
The odds are 50% that your marriage will end in divorce.

Bump that up to 80% if you live together before marriage.

19 posted on 07/08/2002 8:46:00 PM PDT by Valin
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