Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
In my opinion, PJ has focused on two characters and their stories... Frodo and the ring, and Aragorn and the return of the king.
Frodo's story is built with the necessary ingredients that a character needs to endure, change, and grow in a the course of good drama. Plenty of conflict, tension, resolution, etc.
Aragorn, on the other hand, is not. In the book, I have always felt that Aragorn was ambivilent about being king. He could have easily left it if it weren't for the fact that he could not marry Arwen until he came into his kingdom.
Well, ambivilent doesn't play too well on the screen. In fact, ambivilent doesn't really play too well in life. So, to make Aragorn either relunctant or hesitant is a good plot devise. I don't think there has been a great betrayal of Tolkien's Aragorn (not that I think any of you have said that). But to be communicated more thoroughly throughout the plot the initial relunctance or conflicted thoughts have to be pronounced. You don't want to leave the audience guessing at the end of the movie.
So, two things about the extended scenes. I love the Aragorn scenes especially in Rivendell. I love the good bye scene between he and Arwen.
I don't have a problem with Arwen having a bigger part (I say this in deference to Hair because everytime I bring it up, she is constantly telling me to eat a seed cake and drink a pint) What I object to is if she is forced into the plot and doesn't fit. But, I would object to that in any movie/play. Heck, when I finished the play at the performing arts studio, and then the front desk puts a new student in my class (even though I have asked them not to) and I have to insert a new character into the play, I can always tell that the character is being forced in there.
In FOTR, PJ handled Arwen's role very well. I think Liv Tyler is a beautiful woman and did a great job. I am reserving judgment on Two Towers...
As for the rest of the scenes... it does add more texture to the characters and richness to the closeness of the fellowship.
Love the whole Lothlorien -- for the first time, I truly, truly liked Gimli...
And I understand that if the people who control the purse strings said cut it, then those little scenes will have to go so the story stays intact.
Loved two scenes in particular. The fellowship leaving Rivendell and Frodo asking Gandalf which way to Morder. And I love the scene in front of Moira when Pippin asks Gandalf what he was going to do because he couldn't open the doors.
Gollum made another appearance. I would have kept the scene in between Aragorn and Boromir. There was a lot said there wasn't there?
Anyhoo, I have a lot of work to do, so I'm popping off.
The gentleman in you is a red X in a box?
I loved that scene, and it made the scene with him and Aragorn at the end that much more powerful and poignant!
Had to respond to this with a great big dwarf hug!
*great big dwarf hug* :^D
I know what you mean. I don't know why but the way Galadriel looked at Gimli while asking what gift he wanted just absolutely melted me. I love Galadriel. I'm in love with Galadriel now. Arwen is second fiddle now. I never thought it could happen. That was my favorite part. I'm still kind of sheepishly trying to come to terms with it. I know exactly how Gimli feels! LOL!
Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! :)
I don't think he was ambivilent at all in the book else he wouldn't have said to Gandalf that he has worked hard throughout the long years to do something foolish with the Palantir.
His objective was to keep the free lands free, not come to (his own) power as quickly as possible. If it meant defending the hobbits while Bilbo held the ring or waiting to claim the crown until after the foes of Gondor were defeated then so be it.
That scene between Boromir and Aragorn is needed.
In Rivendell, we see the Aragorn is afraid that he has inherited Isildur's weakness for power. Arwen tells him that's not true.
Then in the extended scenes, we see that Aragorn is relunctant to be king because he has never been tested to see what strength lies in him. Oh, yes, he's done brave things... but this is a testing of character.
At Lothlorien's parting, Galadriel says the timing for testing, for choosing has come. Aragorn must make up his mind to rise about his fathers failures or to sink lower.
Then comes the new scene between Boromir and Aragorn. Boromir is right. Aragorn is judging all men on past failure. Because Aragorn believes that all men are weak. That's why the ring can't go to Gondor. He sees in Boromir everything he believes about himself...
Until, he passes the test and lets the ring go. There it was... all he had to do was take it. The ring was calling his name. He let Frodo go.
Boromir's death scene is so poignant -- now that all the shadings and nuances have been woven into "my brother, my captain, my king".
There is still a lot of tension between the book and the movie in a lot of respects. I can see both your points here. The problem arises when trying to take the movie at face value, versus incorporating your knowledge of the book and weaving that together with the movie as you watch it. You will come away with different impressions of the same story. Does that make any sense?
I've seen the movie more... so that is probably my over riding impressions.
I have read the Sam/Smeagol/Frodo scenes alot, mostly because I think they are wonderfully written, funny, and very, very good. In fact, to me, writing doesn't get any better than those three going through Mordor.
I think Boromir meant to say,"...my Ring." ;^)
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