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Eight Persistent COVID-19 Myths and Why People Believe Them (Oct 2020 article-didn’t age well)
Scientific American ^ | October 12, 2020 | Tanya Lewis

Posted on 05/28/2026 8:18:53 PM PDT by DoodleBob

○ 1 THE VIRUS WAS ENGINEERED IN A LABORATORY IN CHINA. Because the pathogen first emerged in Wuhan, China, President Donald Trump and others have claimed, without evidence, that it started in a lab there, and some conspiracy theorists believe it was engineered as a bioweapon.

Why It’s False: U.S. intelligence agencies have categorically denied the possibility that the virus was engineered in a lab, stating that “the Intelligence Community ... concurs with the wide scientific consensus that the COVID-19 virus was not man-made or genetically modified.” Chinese virologist Shi Zhengli—who studies bat coronaviruses and whose lab Trump and others have suggested was the source of COVID-19—compared the pathogen’s sequence with those of other coronaviruses her team had sampled from bat caves and found that it did not match any of them. In response to calls for an independent, international investigation into how the virus originated, China has invited researchers from the World Health Organization to discuss the scope of such a mission.

Why People Believe It:People want a scapegoat for the immense suffering and economic fallout caused by COVID-19, and China—a foreign country and a competitor of the U.S.—is an easy target. Accidental lab releases of pathogens do sometimes occur, and although many scientists say this possibility is unlikely, it provides just enough legitimacy to support a narrative in which China intentionally engineered the virus to unleash it on the world.

○ 2 COVID-19 IS NO WORSE THAN THE FLU. Since the beginning of the pandemic, Trump has lied about the disease’s severity, saying it is no more dangerous than seasonal influenza. Trump himself admitted to journalist and author Bob Woodward in recorded interviews in early February and late March that he knew COVID-19 was more deadly than the flu and that he wanted to play down its severity.

Why It’s False:The precise infection fatality rate of COVID-19 is hard to measure, but epidemiologists suspect that it is far higher than that of the flu—somewhere between 0.5 and 1 percent, compared with 0.1 percent for influenza. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates that the latter causes roughly 12,000 to 61,000 deaths per year in the U.S. In contrast, COVID-19 had caused 200,000 deaths in the country as of mid-September. Many people also have partial immunity to the flu because of vaccination or prior infection, whereas most of the world has not yet encountered COVID-19. So no, coronavirus is not “just the flu.”

Why People Believe It:Their leaders keep saying it. In addition to his repeated false claims that COVID-19 is no worse than the flu, Trump has also said—falsely—that the numbers of deaths from COVID-19 are exaggerated. In fact, reported deaths from COVID-19 are likely an undercount.

○ 3 YOU DON’T NEED TO WEAR A MASK. Despite a strong consensus among public health authorities that masks limit transmission of coronavirus, many people (the president included) have refused to wear one. Georgia’s governor Brian Kemp went so far as to sign an executive order banning city governments from implementing mask mandates. He even sued Atlanta’s mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms when she instituted one, although he has since dropped the lawsuit. Nevertheless, as coronavirus cases spiked around the U.S. during the summer, even states that were once staunch holdouts implemented mask orders.

Why It’s False:Masks have long been known to be an effective means of what epidemiologists call source control (preventing a sick patient from spreading a disease to others). A recent analysis published in the Lancet looked at more than 170 studies and found that face masks can prevent COVID-19 infection. It has also been widely established that people can be infected with and spread COVID-19 without ever developing symptoms, which is why everyone should wear a mask to prevent asymptomatic people from spreading the virus.

Why People Believe It:Early guidance on masks from the CDC and the WHO was confusing and inconsistent, suggesting that members of the general public did not need to wear masks unless they had symptoms of an infection. The guidance was in part driven by a shortage of high-quality surgical and N95 masks, which the agencies said should be reserved for health care workers. Even though face coverings are now mandated or recommended in many states, some people refuse to wear one because they consider it emasculating or a violation of their civil liberties.

○ 4 WEALTHY ELITES ARE USING THE VIRUS TO PROFIT FROM VACCINES. In a book and in the conspiracy theory film Plandemic, Judy Mikovits, who once published a high-profile but eventually retracted study on chronic fatigue syndrome, makes the unsubstantiated claim that National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases director Anthony Fauci and Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates could be using their power to profit from a COVID-19 vaccine. She also asserts without evidence that the virus came from a lab and that wearing masks “activates your own virus.” An excerpt from the film was widely shared by anti-vaxxers and the conspiracy theory group QAnon. The video was viewed more than eight million times on YouTube, Facebook, Twitter and Instagram before it was taken down.

Why It’s False:There is no evidence that Fauci or Gates has benefited from the pandemic or profited from a vaccine. In fact, Fauci has sounded alarms throughout the pandemic about the risks of the virus, and Gates has a long history of philanthropy geared toward eliminating communicable diseases. Mikovits’s claims about the virus’s origin and the efficacy of masks also have no scientific support.

Why People Believe It: Wealthy or influential figures such as Gates and Fauci are often the target of conspiracy theories. Trump has at times attacked Fauci, a member of his own coronavirus task force, calling him an “alarmist.” Some of the president’s followers may find it more palatable to believe that Fauci is exaggerating the severity of the outbreak than to acknowledge the Trump administration’s failure to contain it.

○ 5 HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE IS AN EFFECTIVE TREATMENT. When a small study in France suggested the malaria drug hydroxychloroquine might be effective at treating the disease, Trump and others seized on it. The study is now widely criticized, but some people have continued to tout the medication despite growing evidence that it does not benefit COVID-19 patients. In a tweet, Trump called the hydroxychloroquine treatment “one of the biggest game changers in the history of medicine,” and he has mentioned it repeatedly in his public coronavirus briefings, continuing to hype the drug. In late July he retweeted a video featuring Stella Immanuel, a Houston, Tex.–based physician (whohas made questionable assertions in the past, including that doctors had used alien DNA in treatments and that demons cause certain medical conditions by having sex with people in their dreams), claiming that hydroxychloroquine is an effective treatment for COVID-19. The video was viewed tens of millions of times before social media companies took it down.

Why It’s False:Several studies have shown that hydroxychloroquine does not protect against COVID-19 in those who are exposed. The Food and Drug Administration initially issued an emergency use authorization for the drug, but the agency later warned against its use because of the risk of heart problems and ultimately revoked its authorization. And in June the National Institutes of Health halted its clinical trial of the medication, stating that although it was not harmful to patients, it did not provide any benefit.

Why People Believe It:Initial reports suggested hydroxychloroquine might be a potentially promising drug, and people are most likely to believe the first things they learn about a topic, a phenomenon called anchoring bias. And because Trump has repeatedly claimed that the drug is effective, his supporters may be more likely to believe reports that confirm their views rather than those that challenge them.

○ 6 INCREASES IN CASES ARE THE RESULT OF INCREASED TESTING. As coronavirus cases surged in the U.S., Trump frequently claimed that the spikes were merely the result of more people being tested. He has tweeted that “without testing ... we would be showing almost no cases” and has said in interviews that the reason numbers appear to have gone up is that testing has increased.

Why It’s False:If this scenario were true, one would expect the percentage of positive tests to decrease over time. But numerousanalyseshave shown the opposite. The rate of positive tests rose in many states (such as Arizona, Texas and Florida) that had big outbreaks this past summer, and it decreased in states (such as New York) that controlled their outbreaks. In addition, hospitalizations and deaths increased along with cases, providing more evidence that the national increase in positive tests reflected a true increase in cases.

Why People Believe It:There was a severe shortage of tests in the U.S. early on during the pandemic, and their availability has increased (although actual testing remains far short of what is needed). It is logical to wonder whether more cases are simply being detected—if you look only at total cases and not at the proportion of positive tests or the rates of hospitalization and death.

○ 7 HERD IMMUNITY WILL PROTECT US IF WE LET THE VIRUS SPREAD THROUGH THE POPULATION. Early on in the pandemic, some speculated that the U.K. and Sweden were planning to let the coronavirus circulate through their populations until they reached herd immunity—the point at which enough people are immune to the virus that it can no longer spread. (Both nations’ governments havedenied that this was their official strategy, but the U.K. was late to issue a full lockdown, and Sweden decided against widespread restrictions.)

Why It’s False:There is a fundamental flaw with this approach: experts estimate that roughly 60 to 70 percent of people would need to get COVID-19 for herd immunity to be possible. Given the high mortality rate of the disease, letting it infect that many people could lead to millions of deaths. That tragedy is what happened during the 1918 influenza pandemic, in which at least 50 million people are thought to have perished. The U.K.’s COVID-19 death rate is among the world’s highest. Sweden, for its part, has had significantly more deaths than neighboring countries, and its economy has suffered despite the lack of a shutdown.

Why People Believe It: They want to get back to normal life, and without a widely available COVID-19 vaccine, the only way to achieve herd immunity is to let a substantial number of people get sick. Some have speculated that we may have already achieved herd immunity, but population-based antibody studies have shown that even the hardest-hit regions are far from that threshold.

○ 8 A COVID-19 VACCINE WILL BE UNSAFE. Worrying reports have emerged that many people may refuse to get a COVID-19 vaccine once it is available. Conspiracy theories about potential vaccines have circulated among anti-vaxxer groups and in viral videos. In Plandemic, Mikovits falsely claims that any COVID-19 vaccine will “kill millions” and that other vaccines have done so. Another conspiracy theory makes the ludicrous assertion that Gates has a secret plan to use vaccines to implant trackable microchips in people. Most Americans still support vaccination, but the few voices of opposition have been growing. A recent study observed that although clusters of anti-vaxxers on Facebook are smaller than pro-vaccination groups, they are more heavily interconnected with clusters of undecided people. One Gallup poll found that one in three Americans would not get a COVID-19 vaccine if it were available today and that Republicans were less likely to be vaccinated than Democrats.

Why It’s False:Vaccines save millions of lives every year. Before a vaccine is approved in the U.S., it must generally undergo three phases of clinical testing to show that it is safe and effective in a large number of people. The top COVID-19 vaccine candidates are currently being tested in large-scale trials in tens of thousands of people.

Why People Believe It:There is good reason to be cautious about the safety of any new vaccine or treatment, and the politicization of the fdaunder the Trump administration has raised legitimate concerns that any vaccine approval will be rushed. Nevertheless, previous safety trials of the top vaccine candidates did not find major adverse effects; larger trials for safety and efficacy are now underway. Nine pharmaceutical companies developing vaccines have pledged to “stand with science” and not release one unless it has been shown to be safe and effective.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: chinnavirus; covid1984; covidtruth; nuremberg2; scamdemic; shamdemic
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To: FirstFlaBn

Masks...paper effing masks. Newsom bought a $billion paper ones from China with tax money.

Remember when China decided not to ship medical supplies because racist?


101 posted on 05/29/2026 7:50:29 AM PDT by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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To: DoodleBob
There are already so many posts I will add only one of mine.

A federal judge ordered Food and Drug Administration (FDA) compliance with a Freedom of Information Act request to disclose Pfizer data that factored into FDA’s recent decision granting the experimental mRNA vaccine an Emergency Use Authorization. The first released data recorded over 800 adverse side effects. Most alarming were acute myocardial infarction, arrhythmia, cardiac failure, cardiogenic shock, coronary artery disease, myocardial infarction, postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome, stress cardiomyopathy, tachycardia, liver injury, facial paralysis, immune mediated/autoimmune disorders, arthritis, chronic fatigue syndrome, polyarthritis, rheumatoid arthritis, Guillain-Barre syndrome, fibromyalgia/trigeminal neuralgia, amniotic cavity infection, congenital anomaly, death neonatal, eclampsia, and fetal distress syndrome.

Pfizer’s general overview of 42,086 cases of adverse effects in ninety days found 20,112 persons recovered, 1,233 died, and the balance pended resolution.

So, does the FDA have any credibility left after that decision for approving vaccines for children under five?

Court Orders FDA To Comply With FOIA and Release Information On Pfizer Vaccine – First Batch of Documents Shows Over 1,200 Vaccine Deaths WITHIN FIRST 90 DAYS

www.reuters.com/legal/government/paramount-importance-judge-orders-fda-hasten-release-pfizer-vaccine-docs-2022-01-07/

5.3.6 CUMULATIVE ANALYSIS OF POST-AUTHORIZATION ADVERSE EVENT REPORTS OF PF-07302048 (BNT162B2) RECEIVED THROUGH 28-FEB-2021

https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/reissue_5.3.6-postmarketing-experience.pdf

102 posted on 05/29/2026 8:28:14 AM PDT by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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To: DoodleBob
Time to toss any Scientific American magazines I have lying around the house.
103 posted on 05/29/2026 9:40:19 AM PDT by RideForever (Damn, another dangling par .....)
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To: T.B. Yoits

Lost most of my faith in the medical establishment... in 1996 I was going to SE Asia for business, and I asked the doc giving me prep shots about plague vaccination (got on prior to 1993 trip). He said “We don’t give that anymore, it is on 10 to 15 pct effective” The question he could not answer was “Isn’t that better than zero percent?”


104 posted on 05/29/2026 10:05:14 AM PDT by billphx (“Political correctness is tyranny with a happy face” Charlton Heston)
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To: billphx

oops.. “Got on” should have been “got one”


105 posted on 05/29/2026 10:06:27 AM PDT by billphx (“Political correctness is tyranny with a happy face” Charlton Heston)
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To: delta7
" Crime of the century. "

Not quite but sure to cause repercussions.


106 posted on 05/29/2026 3:40:51 PM PDT by TexasGator (1i11'./1)
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To: woodbutcher1963

“THEREFORE, EVERYONE that tested positive for COVID-19 DIED WITH COVID.”

Lots of people that had COVID didn’t die with COVID.


107 posted on 05/29/2026 3:43:31 PM PDT by TexasGator (1i11'./1)
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To: cyclotic

“A day or so after the lunch, suddenly everyone, and I mean everyone except for one got sick.

These brilliant engineers and scientists never connected the dots that the only one to not contract the Wuhan Red Death after the lunch was the pureblood.”

LOL!


108 posted on 05/29/2026 3:48:43 PM PDT by TexasGator (1i11'./1)
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To: rlmorel; Lazamataz; ProtectOurFreedom; Vermont Lt; Freedom4US; Karliner; BFW; econjack; ...
COVID itself was not a hoax, it was real, but they made it appear far more deadly than it actually was, and I have never been able to look at medicine the way I did before.

This article from COVID that Laz posted remains a keeper. To quote fellow FReepers,

“ “[The disease] can attack almost anything in the body with devastating consequences,” says cardiologist Harlan Krumholz, “Its ferocity is breathtaking and humbling.”……. “Yep, just a natural mutation of SARS. No bio-warfare engineering here. None. Nope.”

It sounds like more of a nerve agent. Scary stuff.

Why, it’s almost as if it was engineered to kill in multiple ways….

While the food fights we had on FR about Covid being the flu or something Really Bad were something else, we all recognized that it wasn’t each other who were the Bad Guys.

Even when the shots came out, there were MANY people on FR who took the shots out of economic necessity, or were in the high-risk zip code. Don’t forget kids, the late JimRob took the shot, and nobody would dare call him a sheep.

In general, we kept our cool.

However…the people like the article’s writer…..THEY looked down at us. Called us names. Marginalized us. Got us fired. Doxxed us. And then, the Bad Guys mandated the shots.

I said this repeatedly....I will not criticize anyone for their personal health decision. Remember my body, my choice? It works both ways. Utility curve optimization isn't in the Constitution, nor my personal code.

And yet, these "approved" shots - which have caused familial and societal strife, vective, unrest, unemployment, and brought us to a Constitutional "crisis" where three lawyers on SCOTUS thought it was peachy for OSHA to enact a mandate without congressional approval - remain in effect under an EUA where the BASIS was PREVENTION. And now, Prevention has now gone down the memory hole, and now any time we see statistics on the shot it’s in stopping a hospital visit or one-way trip to the morgue.

We’ve moved on from COVID, for the most part. Now, we debate Iran, the midterms, policy choices, and other things. Often we agree, many times not. Usually, we remain civil.

But for the likes of the article’s writer…

….what will bother them, is that we figured them out. They hold no sway over us. And THEY are the enemies of America’s principles.

And often, we laugh at them.

109 posted on 05/29/2026 4:05:22 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: DoodleBob

Everything you wrote in your post was spot on, FRiend. Spot on. Especially your last two sentences.


110 posted on 05/29/2026 4:14:41 PM PDT by rlmorel (Factio Communistica Sinensis Delenda Est)
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To: DoodleBob

I am convinced Kyle Busch died of Covid.


111 posted on 05/29/2026 4:18:04 PM PDT by AppyPappy (They don't call you a Nazi because they think you are one. They do it to justify violence. )
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To: AppyPappy

I am convinced Kyle Busch died of Covid.


And Claude Lemieux.


112 posted on 05/29/2026 4:23:24 PM PDT by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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To: delta7

“Crime of the century”

https://www.sec.gov/files/litigation/opinions/2009/ia-2926.pdf


113 posted on 05/29/2026 5:09:32 PM PDT by TexasGator (1i11'./1)
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To: DoodleBob

Yes, the world went mad. I remember they changed virus to disease. They powers that be even changed the definition of virus in texts and online.

I knew( and know) bundles of docs and nurses and it was about June 2020 with the whole lock down everyonewent silent. Doctors changed from a bad resppiratory virus to going silent for fears they were not toeing the upper level professionals views.
There were differences in battling the virsus, monoclonal, Hydrochloroquine, z pac, ivermectin, vitamins

then the masking freaks, the arrows, the six foot distances,

then the contact tracing, WHO and NIH talkingh about efficacies of different vaccines, one time only J&J or the Pfizer, and Moderna MRna ones...then they mixed them after saying that should not happen.

It was a confluence of lies, fears, fakery, draconian demands, failures of shipping,adding paper money to our economy and on and on.

Yes on mandated shots in most all hospitals, in the military( or fired or they forced masking or both) and again anyone who spoke up or hammered down by the government and medical snitches.

Not sure if I was the first( doubtful) or one of the first stating the marriage between government and medicine needs a divorce. I took the Contact Tracing course via Johns Hopkins( also WHO financed) in which questions that must be written were China is the best government on the planet because of their great all encompassing individualized tracing and the other one was the US constitution is null and void when a medical emergency must force people to survive for the greater good.


Anyway, I was mandated and took the J&J then withing months they demanded me get the Moderna or Pfizer and get every booster.

That never happened but I retired completely from nursing.

Back to the article with Scientific American. Reads like apologizing, rationalizing with under currents of doubling down on their first propagandizing.

I agree wholly the virus was real and saw many people very sick. But I also saw so many people dying in isolation, drunk and drugged OD’s and suicides because of the isolation. Di we ot see the governor of New York mixing the sick in nursing homes killing thousands? The over flow tents never used fully? Closed churches and propagandized as crazy super spreaders? The constant radio and TV propaganda of fear day in, day out?

The president saying there will be a winter of sickness and death for the unvaxed?

People wish to forget this whole time line but as a Christian I believe 100% these kind folks looking for the greater good will follow through as it was a complete precursor, a prototype for something to come. It worked as we were forced to comply or die, comply of not be able to buy and sell, comply or die.

The next time, if the bible prophecies are true will be the real deal. That is my belief as evidence by how easily people fell in line and the questioners silenced.


114 posted on 05/29/2026 5:28:03 PM PDT by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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To: DeplorablePaul

Exactly right. At first I was somewhat concerned, as anyone would be with the initial announcements, so I watched every WH Covid briefing live in order to know as much as possible.

But the Fauci flip-flops began to pile up, the animus towards Trump from Fauci and Dr. Scarf Lady was palpable and then the ridiculous “12 days to flatten the curve” was introduced.

At that point the whole thing stunk like a freshly flattened skunk on the road. What followed was the intentionally ginned up hysteria that emptied the grocery shelves nationwide. The first assault on the supply chain and it was effective, I’ll give the Dem monsters that.

From then on it was clear to me that this was enemy action and I’m not talking about the ChiComs although they clearly had their own game against us going on.

The only thing I’ll add to that is that the American people utterly failed. As a whole our society has near zero survival instincts.


115 posted on 05/29/2026 8:49:58 PM PDT by TigersEye (The Democrat Party - like the love child of La Cosa Nostra and Al Qaeda )
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To: AppyPappy

I believe similar although not Covid per se:. Specifically the IgG3 >> IgG4 antibody class switch that results from repeated Jabs. It would explain how he was able to function with a raging septic infection up until he collapsed.


116 posted on 05/29/2026 9:12:41 PM PDT by Polynikes (Nicht geimpft Mensch 2nd Klasse)
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To: DoodleBob

“Why, it’s almost as if it was engineered to kill in multiple ways….”

It did. And that’s the reason it was engineered the way it was. The Chinese virology studies have a long history that never surfaced when all the threats came out.

The Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences is a research institute on virology under the Wuhan Branch of the Chinese Academy of Sciences founded in 1956. It change4d hands within the Chinese government until it was finally returned to their feds in 2003. That year the Chinese academy of Sciences approved the construction of mainland China’s first biosafety level 4 (BSL-4) laboratory at the WIV.

In 2014, the WIV’s National Bio-safety Laboratory was built at a cost of 300 million yuan (US$44 million), in collaboration and with assistance from the French government’s CIRI lab. The National Bio-safety Laboratory has strong ties to the Galveston National Laboratory in the University of Texas and had ties with Canada’s National Microbiology Laboratory until WIV staff scientists Xiangguo Qiu and her husband Keding Cheng were remunerated by the Canadian government, were escorted from the Canadian lab for undisclosed reasons in July 2019.

In 2015, an international team including two scientists from the institute published successful research on whether a bat coronavirus could be made to infect a human cell line (HeLa). The team engineered a hybrid virus, combining a bat coronavirus with a SARS virus that had been adapted to grow in mice and mimic human disease. The hybrid virus was able to infect human cells. But this was 12 years after the virus was already infecting people and they information they already had and confirmed in 2002 already existed.

But even their results were false. In 2018, well into the spread time of the virus, another paper by a team from the institute reported the results of a serological study of a sample of villagers residing near these bat caves Xiyang Township in Jinning District of Yunnan, and according to this report, 6 out of the 218 local residents in the sample carried antibodies to the bat coronaviruses in their blood, indicating the possibility of transmission of the infections from bats to people. Yet the first recorded virus in the US was only two years later in the US with such a small infestation rate in China.

So, was it built as a bio attack? Magic 8 ball says yes even though they have denied the evidence saying it was. And, when Trump came into office he immediately squared off with China leading ultimately to applying his first major import tariffs on Chinese goods on July 6, 2018, initiating the U.S.–China trade war. This initial rollout was a 25% tariff on $34 billion worth of Chinese products and cost them over $35B in the first two months.

Piss them off? They turned around and tried to hamper our agriculture with tariffs and they found out you don’t defecate where you eat as they imported a lot of agriculture at that time from the US.

Happenstance? No one will admit it. But the info is easy to find. And this is just a tiny piece of it. Canada, France, the US, South Korea, Germany, the UK, Japan, and some African nations all were connected with Wuhan starting in the early 2000’s and before. The info is there for the finding.

wy69


117 posted on 05/29/2026 9:35:01 PM PDT by whitney69
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To: TigersEye

“the American people utterly failed. As a whole our society has near zero survival instincts”

Disagree. Trump was genius to delegate COVID decisions to the governors. Red states opened and flourished while blue states languished under lockdowns further undermining the COVID lies with empirical data. Resisting the COVID hysteria a significant slice of America with superior critical thinking skills emerged to oppose the COVID dictatorship like ME! and YOU!. Once the BLM riots began and were fully sanctioned by the coup plotters the game was up. In the end, despite the pandemic and BLM riots, the conspiracy to overthrow Trump had to resort to massive election fraud to achieve their goal. Biden’s 81 million votes is proof positive. Obama got sloppy.


118 posted on 05/29/2026 11:12:39 PM PDT by DeplorablePaul
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To: Polynikes

How many jabs did he have?


119 posted on 05/30/2026 4:12:15 AM PDT by AppyPappy (They don't call you a Nazi because they think you are one. They do it to justify violence. )
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To: AppyPappy

No way to actually tell but the presentation of his illness has all earmarks of the body going into a chronic response to a disease ( steroid-like)


120 posted on 05/30/2026 9:54:03 AM PDT by Polynikes (Nicht geimpft Mensch 2nd Klasse)
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