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Posted on 01/25/2026 4:41:59 PM PST by Morgana
During an appearance on FOX News’s The Sunday Briefing this week, DHS Secretary Kristi Noem stressed that concealed carry in Minnesota is illegal “without an ID on you.”
Her statement came after host Peter Doocy pointed out that the armed man who was shot and killed by a federal agent Saturday in Minneapolis “was legally a concealed carry permit holder.”
Doocy then asked, “Is your message to people who [have] concealed carry permits, that if they’re going to go to a protest, they should leave their gun in the car?”
Noem responded, “No, my message to individuals is don’t go impede law enforcement operations. That’s not legal, you’re breaking the law when you do that.”
She added, “It’s also breaking the law in Minnesota when you conceal carry without an ID on you.”
On Saturday, DHS noted that the man who was shot by a federal agent was carrying a 9mm handgun with “2 magazines and no ID.”
Minnesota’s carry law statute says, “The holder of a permit to carry must have the permit card and a driver’s license, state identification card, or other government-issued photo identification in immediate possession at all times when carrying a pistol and must display the permit card and identification document upon lawful demand by a peace officer, as defined in section 626.84, subdivision 1. ”
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It’s a small fine in MN (see link above). All this dodges the point — Pretti decided to pack for the event and then elects to grapple with the BP agent.
Then, Walz hides behind 2A by saying Pretti was legally carrying. In MN, he wasn’t. We don’t know why, so we have bitter argument and more about it. Maybe that was why? Certainly the left likes it that way!
So in your mind, Minnesota law trumps the constitution? You really think that?
most people carry wallets. I would assume he had his on him.
FR might as well shut down, there is zero critical thinking exhibited here.
You're question makes zero sense.
The OP took offense because Noem noted that the dead guy was breaking Minnesota law.
I don't think Noem did anything wrong by doing that.
Do you?
Yeah... see... the States ratified the U.S. Constitution.
Thank you for playing History's Mysteries.
So, the requirements of one justifies the other?
There are lots of reasons for having identification. This is a silly hill to go to war over.
Silly?
Where to start...
Tone Policing
Appeal to Ridicule
Association Fallacy
Two wrongs make a right
Yet you were the one who made the statements. What purpose did you intend them to serve?
The forum sure has changed over the years.
This is the world we live in. Prioritize your complaints.
Complaints?
As for priorities, if we don't have a Second Amendment, we don't have a Bill of Rights.
Minnesota Governor Walz has claimed that the dead guy was lawfully carrying a concealed hand gun, in Minneapolis, while engaged in a public political anti-Trump demonstration.
Walz is lying.
That clearly violates two Minnesota laws.
If the dead guy had been engaged by Minneapolis Police, he would have been arrested.
Constitutional issues are resolved in Courts - not in the streets.
In addition, both state and federal law do not allow minor age children, non-citizens, and felons, to concealed carry at a public demonstration.
Without positive ID, how can state and federal law enforcement determine if some one is lawfully in possession, or not?
No. None of those ratifications as pointed to abolished the state Constitutions nor the state Bills of Rights.
You believe a thing with zero evidence.
[Article] Minnesota’s carry law statute says, “The holder of a permit to carry must have the permit card and a driver’s license, state identification card, or other government-issued photo identification in immediate possession at all times when carrying a pistol and must display the permit card and identification document upon lawful demand by a peace officer, as defined in section 626.84, subdivision 1.”
MN Stat. 626.84 Subdiv 1:
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/626.84
626.84 DEFINITIONS AND SCOPE.Subdivision 1.
Definitions. For purposes of sections 626.84 to 626.863, the following terms have the meanings given:
(a) "Board" means the Board of Peace Officer Standards and Training.
(b) "Director" means the executive director of the board.
(c) "Peace officer" means:
(1) an employee or an elected or appointed official of a political subdivision or law enforcement agency who is licensed by the board, charged with the prevention and detection of crime and the enforcement of the general criminal laws of the state and who has the full power of arrest, and shall also include the Minnesota State Patrol, agents of the Division of Alcohol and Gambling Enforcement, state conservation officers, Metropolitan Transit police officers, Department of Corrections Fugitive Apprehension Unit officers, the statewide coordinator of the Violent Crime Coordinating Council, and railroad peace officers as authorized by section 219.995 and United States Code, title 49, section 28101; and
(2) a peace officer who is employed by a law enforcement agency of a federally recognized tribe, as defined in United States Code, title 25, section 450b(e), and who is licensed by the board.
(d) "Part-time peace officer" means an individual licensed by the board whose services are utilized by law enforcement agencies no more than an average of 20 hours per week, not including time spent on call when no call to active duty is received, calculated on an annual basis, who has either full powers of arrest or authorization to carry a firearm while on active duty. The term shall apply even though the individual receives no compensation for time spent on active duty, and shall apply irrespective of the title conferred upon the individual by any law enforcement agency.
(e) "Reserve officer" means an individual whose services are utilized by a law enforcement agency to provide supplementary assistance at special events, traffic or crowd control, and administrative or clerical assistance, and shall include reserve deputies, special deputies, mounted or unmounted patrols, and all other employees or volunteers performing reserve officer functions. A reserve officer's duties do not include enforcement of the general criminal laws of the state, and the officer does not have full powers of arrest or authorization to carry a firearm on duty.
(f) "Law enforcement agency" means:
(1) a unit of state or local government that is authorized by law to grant full powers of arrest and to charge a person with the duties of preventing and detecting crime and enforcing the general criminal laws of the state;
(2) subject to the limitations in section 626.93, a law enforcement agency of a federally recognized tribe, as defined in United States Code, title 25, section 450b(e); and
(3) subject to the limitation of section 219.995, a railroad company.
(g) "Professional peace officer education" means a postsecondary degree program, or a nondegree program for persons who already have a college degree, that is offered by a college or university in Minnesota, designed for persons seeking licensure as a peace officer, and approved by the board.
(h) "Railroad peace officer" means an individual as authorized under United States Code, title 49, section 28101:
(1) employed by a railroad for the purpose of aiding and supplementing law enforcement agencies in the protection of property owned by or in the care, custody, or control of a railroad and to protect the persons and property of railroad passengers and employees; and
(2) licensed by the board.
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/624.714
624.714 CARRYING OF WEAPONS WITHOUT PERMIT; PENALTIES.Subdivision 1. [Repealed, 2003 c 28 art 2 s 35; 2005 c 83 s 1]
Subd. 1a.
Permit required; penalty. A person, other than a peace officer, as defined in section 626.84, subdivision 1, who carries, holds, or possesses a pistol in a motor vehicle, snowmobile, or boat, or on or about the person's clothes or the person, or otherwise in possession or control in a public place, as defined in section 624.7181, subdivision 1, paragraph (c), without first having obtained a permit to carry the pistol is guilty of a gross misdemeanor. A person who is convicted a second or subsequent time is guilty of a felony.
Subd. 1b.
Display of permit; penalty.
(a) The holder of a permit to carry must have the permit card and a driver's license, state identification card, or other government-issued photo identification in immediate possession at all times when carrying a pistol and must display the permit card and identification document upon lawful demand by a peace officer, as defined in section 626.84, subdivision 1. A violation of this paragraph is a petty misdemeanor. The fine for a first offense must not exceed $25. Notwithstanding section 609.531, a firearm carried in violation of this paragraph is not subject to forfeiture.
(b) A citation issued for violating paragraph (a) must be dismissed if the person demonstrates, in court or in the office of the arresting officer, that the person was authorized to carry the pistol at the time of the alleged violation.
(c) Upon the request of a peace officer, a permit holder must write a sample signature in the officer's presence to aid in verifying the person's identity.
(d) Upon the request of a peace officer, a permit holder shall disclose to the officer whether or not the permit holder is currently carrying a firearm.
Mayor Frey and Governor Walz talk about how peaceful anti-ICE protests are...
This nurse brought his gun to this “peaceful” protest...Why?
He was afraid of being robbed by other protestors? The protestor who took the rifle from the FBI vehicle turned to be a Hispanic gang member after all...
I remember learning about civil rights protests during 1960s...Dr. King asked people to avoid violence...I do not think that Dr. King ever asked his followers to bring guns to the marches for civil rights...
No, I am not saying that 60s civil right protests are same as what is going today...Not really...
Removed the strike: "So she should ignore the fact that he was breaking Minnesota constitutional violations?"
It does not make sense to say the phrase "Alex Pretti was breaking Minnesota constitutional violations."
Please re-submit.
Also as a gun owner you are to put your hands up and tell an officer you are armed when you have a firearm on you. Any responsible gun owner knows this.
https://safercarry.com/minnesota-concealed-carry/
Duty to Inform: Minnesota has NO immediate duty to inform. You only have to disclose that you have a firearm if the officer explicitly asks.
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/624.714
624.714 Subdiv 1b(d)
(d) Upon the request of a peace officer, a permit holder shall disclose to the officer whether or not the permit holder is currently carrying a firearm.
In the Minnesota statute, the term peace officer does not include federal DHS/ICE/BP officers.
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The guy on the right had just taken the gun (top gif) out of the holster and then the other dude shoots Alex.
Infringements such as carrying ID shall be removed from the inalienable right to keep and bear arms.
Carrying ID is not an infringement of the right. The RKBA is not defined in or created by the Constitution. It was a right in the English common law that was carried on by the states following independence. The RKBA, as it existed in English common law is stated in Blackstone.
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/blackstone_bk1ch1.asp
Blackstone's Commentaries on the Laws of England
Book the First - Chapter the First: Of the Absolute Rights of Individuals (1765)
5. THE fifth and last auxiliary right of the subject, that I shall at present mention, is that of having arms for their defence, suitable to their condition and degree, and such as are allowed by law. Which is also declared by the same statute 1 W. & M. ft. 2. c. 2. and is indeed a public allowance, under due restrictions, of the natural right of resistance and self-preservation, when the sanctions of society and laws are found insufficient to restrain the violence of oppression.
The history of the RKBA and its definition are stated in Heller.
District of Columbia v Heller, S. Ct. 554 US 570 (2008)
Heller at 626:
Like most rights, the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited. From Blackstone through the 19th-century cases, commentators and courts routinely explained that the right was not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose. See, e.g., Sheldon, in 5 Blume 346; Rawle 123; Pomeroy 152–153; Abbott 333. For example, the majority of the 19th-century courts to consider the question held that prohibitions on carrying concealed weapons were lawful under the Second Amendment or state analogues. See, e.g., State v. Chandler, 5 La. Ann., at 489–490; Nunn v. State, 1 Ga., at 251; see generally 2 Kent *340, n. 2; The American Students’ Blackstone 84, n. 11 (G. Chase ed. 1884).
There is a right to keep and bear lawful arms, in a lawful manner, for a lawful purpose, under due restrictions. That right, so defined, shall not be infringed, not even a little bit.
I suppose that you avoided any confrontations with LEOs and did not assault any of them. And you kept your weapon properly concealed. That works for me!
Of course, I do not go to protests of any kind these days.
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