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Rand paul.....what a pizza chit

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1 posted on 01/08/2026 11:40:51 AM PST by V_TWIN
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How will they stop Trump?


2 posted on 01/08/2026 11:42:08 AM PST by 1ScrappyArmyMom
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The usual three plus two more:

Sens. Susan Collins of Maine, Josh Hawley of Missouri, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Rand Paul of Kentucky and Todd Young of Indiana.


3 posted on 01/08/2026 11:44:31 AM PST by CedarDave (Having proudly supported Free Republic for over 25 years!)
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Won’t get cloture.


4 posted on 01/08/2026 11:49:36 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Hope, as a righteous product of properly aligned Faith, IS in fact a strategy.)
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Only to fail in the House?
Yup.
Waste of time.


5 posted on 01/08/2026 11:50:23 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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ust how is this “War,” geniuses? that is low-IQ Dem-type “think.” oy.


7 posted on 01/08/2026 11:52:46 AM PST by avital2
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They don't want Trump to succeed at anything. They are slow rolling his appointments, made him fight like hell to get the only bill he asked for through (though GOP helped Biden get all of his crappy ones through and all his nominees too).

Pay attention, gang. They are not who they say they are and they will always be ready to supply enough votes to make sure that the dems get to really control the agenda in general and to stymie Trump in particular.

8 posted on 01/08/2026 11:55:29 AM PST by pepsi_junkie ("We want no Gestapo or Secret Police. F. B. I. is tending in that direction." - Harry S Truman)
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Todd Young is the quintessential "Todd".

10 posted on 01/08/2026 11:59:01 AM PST by Governor Dinwiddie ( O give thanks unto the Lord, for He is gracious, and his mercy endures forever. — Psalm 106)
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Check all of their income sources! Did Trump cut some off?


11 posted on 01/08/2026 11:59:48 AM PST by Highest Authority (DemonRats are pure EVIL)
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Trump could veto, no?


12 posted on 01/08/2026 12:01:16 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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Rand Paul has been funded by Maduro in Venezuela


14 posted on 01/08/2026 12:11:36 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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This is the worst moment to be weakening Trump’s negotiating position, just as he is trying to break up logjams and long stale status quos that needed refreshing and new angles.


15 posted on 01/08/2026 12:11:53 PM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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F’n RINO’s..... can always be counted on to throw a monkey wrench into the works.


16 posted on 01/08/2026 12:12:33 PM PST by LastDayz (A Blunt and Brazen Texan. I Will Not Be Assimilated.)
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so far, the Venezuela action looks very promising (and was carried out excellently from the reports)

it might even help slow the smuggling of killer-drugs into USA, something we desperately need to achieve

we will see.
right now, I believe these five GOP-E votes were, at the least, premature


17 posted on 01/08/2026 12:15:43 PM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicians aren't born, they're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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There is no such concept of "war powers" in the Constitution as relates to the President's Article II powers as Commander-in-Chief.

The are only two "war powers" in the Constitution:

  1. Article I Section 8 Clause 11 power of Congress "To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;"

  2. Article I Section 10 Clause 4 power of Congress that "No State shall, without the Consent of Congress... engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay."

That's it. Congress can declare war, and Congress can approve states engaging in war.

The President, as Commander-in-Chief, has Article II Section 2 plenary powers to use the military as he wishes. He doesn't need the permission of Congress, or else we'd have a Congress-in-Chief where the President becomes a lesser officer.

Congress can declare war, but that doesn't obligate the Commander-in-Chief to wage that war, either. The President could choose to use diplomacy to de-escalate tensions and never act on Congress' declaration of war.

The Article I Section 8 power of Congress to "declare war" is not a check on the President's power to use the military. The proper check is the Article I Section 8 Clause 12 power:

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

The power of Congress to defund the army was the check on an adventurous President who is misusing the military. A president has a two-year window to use the military before Congress must reauthorize the funding for the military for another two years.

That is how Congress oversees the president's use of military power.

-PJ

18 posted on 01/08/2026 12:16:46 PM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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...a so-called “War Powers resolution” to force Trump to end hostilities toward the South American nation...

Typical leftist slant that too many of our fellow citizens will miss. It is Trump who is ending the hostile actions directed against U.S. citizens by that South American nation.

The way things are going in some of our states, we can expect the day when Red states will throw away their convenient, self-serving "Blue state" label and proudly proclaim they are indeed Red states.

20 posted on 01/08/2026 12:18:32 PM PST by frog in a pot (Islam, the peaceful "Submit or Die" religion.)
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The republican party is hopeless and needs replacing. They can’t even support our President when our country needs it most. You can’t primary an entire party.


23 posted on 01/08/2026 12:42:52 PM PST by McCarthysGhost
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The War Powers Act is unconstitutional, so this is meaningless.


27 posted on 01/08/2026 1:10:38 PM PST by EastTexasTraveler
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That POS Senator Todd Young from my state of Indiana was one of the turncoats involved in this vote.


30 posted on 01/08/2026 1:40:09 PM PST by caver ( )
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These VERY WEAK legislators must go. Our nation’s freedom hangs in the balance.


32 posted on 01/08/2026 1:55:32 PM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose GOD is the LORD. ~ Psalm 33:12)
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And the President must sign it!!!!!


34 posted on 01/08/2026 2:34:29 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Trump has arrived and it is awesome to have a real President.)
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