Posted on 12/26/2025 1:08:37 PM PST by ransomnote
Excerpt from 2 minute video:
"This is what Cochrane and BMJ have found. People who take the flu shot are protected against that strain of flu, but they are 4.4 times more likely to get a non-flu infection."
RFJ Jr. cites a Pentagon study: Influenza vaccination and respiratory virus interference among Department of Defense personnel during the 2017-2018 influenza season
Dec 25, 2025
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Exactly. That has been the finding in studies run, several done by the armed forces.
He’s right.
My flu shot story: I’ve lived here 18 years. Got a flu shot once, 17 years agp. Then came down with the flu. No shot since then and no flu.
Big Pharma sux, vitamin C rocks.
And sunshine and fresh air.
And even at that, doesn’t the shot miss on whatever intended strain the majority of the time?
The funny part of this is the explanation they give: Well the flu shot we currently have doesn’t cover the strain that is out there right now - BUT - and it’s a big BUT - get the flu shot anyway because well it’s good for you. They come up with their pseudo-science explanation as to why it would be good for you to take an injection! How many people are “forced” to get the injections each year through their occupation?
“We’re not anti-vaccine - just against the COVID mRNA vaccine” (another lie exposed from these militant posters - their anti-vaccine crusade goes on)
As for RFK Jr’s remarks, this comes from the same mind that came up with all of this and more:
RFK, Jr.: Climate Skeptics ‘Should Be at the Hague with All the Other War Criminals’ https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3206882/posts
RFK, Jr. wants me jailed … as a war criminal https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3211190/posts
RFK Jr.: Hog farmers bigger threat than Osama https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2178592/posts
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Wants To Jail His Political Opponents https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3206573/posts
Lessons in civility from RFK, Jr. https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3509601/posts
Robert Kennedy Jr. Blames Reagan For 9/11 [for rolling back CAFE standards in 1986] https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1855875/posts
RFK Jr. spreads blame for environmental woes in New Bedford speech https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1913559/posts
Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. Blames Fairness Doctrine Abolishment for Conservatism Popularity https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2479527/posts
RFK, Jr: ‘We have so much to learn from Cuba’ https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3243628/posts
RFK Endorses AOC’s Green New Deal, Calls for Climate Taxation https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4187998/posts
Watch RFK, Jr. lose it at climate change march when confronted about his hypocrisy https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3206578/posts
Andrea Mitchell Applauds RFK Jr.’s ‘Impassioned Plea’ for Obama to Stop Keystone Pipeline by Fiat https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3120692/posts
RFK Jr. Slams “Right-Wing Control of American Media” https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2967445/posts
RFK Jr: Right-Wing Controls American Media, Fox News Has Divided US to a Point not Seen Since Civil War https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2967311/posts
RFK jr: Sen. Inhofe is a “Call Girl” for Big Oil (But it’s OK to say it, he’s a Democrat after all) https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2855976/posts
Robert Kennedy, Jr.’s ‘Green’ Company Scored $1.4 Billion Taxpayer Bailout https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2808401/posts
RFK Jr. Claims Air America Was More Popular Than Conservative Radio https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2740193/posts
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Endorses Charlie Crist, Attacks Tea Party (Video) https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2606809/posts
RFK, Jr. 15 months ago: Global warming means no snow or cold in DC https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2446226/posts
Robert Kennedy Jr.: right-wing hosts spread hate https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2271218/posts
Robert F. Kennedy, Jr: Innocent ACORN Defrauded by ACORN Workers https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2109548/posts
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.: ‘There Is No Liberal Media’(video barf!) https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2021728/posts
Kennedy Calls Skeptical Politicians ‘Traitors’ and ‘Corporate Toadies’ https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1864440/posts
RFK Jr. Says AGW Skeptics Should Be Silenced https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1864945/posts
Video: Stossel Takes Robert F. Kennedy Jr. On For Traitor Remark https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1864510/posts
RFK Jr. Calls Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck Lying ‘Flat Earthers’ https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1863207/posts
RFK (Robberbaron F. Kennedy) Jr. vs. Mike Gallagher on Energy Independence https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2033812/posts
The Incredible Shrinking Credibility of RFK, Jr. https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1644744/posts
RFK Jr.: Bush, Barbour to Blame for Katrina https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1473838/posts
RFK Jr: You know, my uncle was also shot amid a climate of right-wing hate https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2655920/posts
Flashback - Palin’s Big Oil infatuation [End of snow forever in DC] https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3387273/posts
RFK Jr says Donald Trump has ‘discredited the American experiment’
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7903551/Robert-Kennedy-Jr-says-Donald-Trump-discredited-American-experiment.html
I took them every year for decades in the military. Caught the flu about every 5 years and spent 3-4 days feeling sick annually in between. Since I retired? No flu shots and got sick once in the last 15 years.
Bingo. By the time they cook up the vaccine for the flu variation running wild in Australia, the flu has morphed and the current variation is different than the one the flu shot was developed for.
I wonder how RFKjr feels about the current pressure on Maduro\Venezuela? He used to be such a fanboy.
NEVER got a flu shot, NEVER got the VAX. Don’t have your children get 80 or 90 different vaccines.
People survived for THOUSANDS of years without them. So how badly do we really “need” them?
I have never gotten a flu shot in my life. I’ve had the flu once, decades ago. A friend of mine got the flu shot. Now he’s sick.
I would lay odds no one clicked on those links. Vitamins work better than the shots.
Almost all Americans are chronically short of Vitamin D.
Get up to speed on that, and for a normal, healthy person - common colds and flu will become very rare.
I got Bell’s palsy after a flu shot. Totally anti-vax now!
Question: are those who take the flu shot more susceptible to other infections”
AI Says No.
Based on current medical evidence as of December 2025, there is no consistent evidence that taking a flu shot makes you more susceptible to other infections.
While a small number of individual studies have explored a phenomenon called viral interference, the broader scientific consensus remains that the flu vaccine does not increase the risk of other respiratory illnesses.
Key Scientific Findings
- Lack of Viral Interference: Most large-scale studies have found no significant association between flu vaccination and increased risk of non-flu respiratory viruses, such as seasonal coronaviruses or RSV.
-Temporary Immunity Explanation: A single 2012 study suggested a higher risk of other infections, theorizing that because vaccinated people avoid the flu, they miss out on a few weeks of “temporary non-specific immunity” triggered by a natural flu infection. However, subsequent research has largely failed to replicate these results.
- Protection Against Other Risks: Large-scale meta-analyses show that flu vaccination is actually associated with a reduced risk of other complications, including an 18% reduction in general respiratory diseases and a significant reduction in pneumonia.
- No Cross-Susceptibility to COVID-19: Multiple studies, including systematic reviews through 2024 and 2025, have confirmed that flu vaccination does not increase the risk of contracting or suffering severe outcomes from COVID-19.
Common Reasons People May Feel “Sicker”
- It is common for people to mistakenly believe they are more susceptible after a shot due to several factors:
The Two-Week Window: It takes about two weeks for the vaccine to build full immunity. If you are exposed to a virus during this time, you can still get sick.
- Other Viruses: The flu shot only protects against specific influenza strains. It does not prevent the “common cold” or other respiratory viruses that circulate at the same time.
Normal Immune Response: Mild side effects like muscle aches or a low-grade fever are signs the body is building protection, not signs of a new infection.
Question: “What research supports the viral interference hypothesis and flu shots?”
- Research into the viral interference hypothesis and flu shots is largely centered on a small number of studies that show mixed or conflicting results. While most major public health studies as of late 2025 find no link between the flu vaccine and increased susceptibility to other viruses, a few specific studies are frequently cited as supporting this hypothesis.
Key Studies Supporting Viral Interference
The 2012 Cowling Study: This randomized controlled trial in Hong Kong followed 115 children and found that those who received the trivalent inactivated influenza vaccine (TIV) had a 4.4-fold higher risk of confirmed non-influenza respiratory infections. The researchers hypothesized that by preventing natural flu, the vaccine also prevents the temporary “non-specific immunity” (likely interferon-based) that a natural infection would provide against other viruses.
- The 2020 Wolff Study (DoD Personnel): A study of Department of Defense personnel during the 2017–2018 season found no overall evidence of increased risk for all non-flu viruses combined. However, it did find a statistically significant association between flu vaccination and an increased risk of seasonal coronaviruses (OR = 1.36) and human metapneumovirus (OR = 1.51).
Historical and Theoretical Research: The concept was first described in the 1960s, showing that oral enterovirus vaccines could sometimes decrease the detection of unrelated respiratory viruses, suggesting one virus can “interfere” with another. Modern theories suggest this occurs through competition for cellular receptors or the induction of inhibitory host proteins like interferon.
Context and Contradicting Evidence
- It is important to note that the majority of recent research contradicts these specific findings:
RSV and Parainfluenza: In the same 2020 Wolff study that showed an increased risk for coronaviruses, vaccinated individuals actually showed significant protection against RSV and parainfluenza.
Large-Scale Replications: A three-year U.S. study involving over 10,000 patients from 2010–2013 found no evidence of virus interference or any increased risk of other respiratory infections following flu vaccination.
2025 Health Assessments: Recent peer-reviewed evidence from late 2025 continues to support the overall safety and effectiveness of the seasonal flu shot, alongside COVID-19 and RSV immunizations.
Then you approve of RFKjr’s past leftist statements and leftism?
I got the flu shot three years ago...it gave me the flu.
He’s a pro-abort, too, but he’s been staying in his lane,
If the arguments he presents are sound, I can support the argument, even if I wouldn’t want him babysitting my children.
We also believe in redemption. He may have changed his mind on a number of things. Trump had donated to RFK Jr.’s OTHER uncle’s campaign, and that had been enough for me to not be eager to support him, even if it was just for business. The Trump we have as president is not that man. I am glad I gave him a chance to exceed my expectations.
As long as RFK Jr. follows the president’s line on the key things, he can make all the arguments he wants on shots, and the arguments can stand or fall on the merits. He is not reducing funding for or denying anyone a flu shot.
The flu shot is nothing but a profit center for drug companies.
Everyone I know who has gotten the shot has had the flu and were damned sick when they got it.
Few who did not get the shot ever got the flu or any other infection.
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