Posted on 12/26/2025 1:08:37 PM PST by ransomnote
Excerpt from 2 minute video:
"This is what Cochrane and BMJ have found. People who take the flu shot are protected against that strain of flu, but they are 4.4 times more likely to get a non-flu infection."
RFJ Jr. cites a Pentagon study: Influenza vaccination and respiratory virus interference among Department of Defense personnel during the 2017-2018 influenza season
Dec 25, 2025
“People survived for THOUSANDS of years without them. So how badly do we really “need” them?”
AI Overview
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Spanish Flu: 1918-1920 - Hampshire Genealogical Society
The 1918 influenza pandemic (Spanish Flu) was devastating, infecting about one-third of the world’s population and causing an estimated 50 to 100 million deaths globally, making it the deadliest pandemic in history. In the United States alone, approximately 675,000 people died, and life expectancy dropped by 12 years, with unusual mortality hitting healthy young adults (20-40) alongside children and the elderly.
Global Impact:
Infections: Around 500 million people (one-third of the world’s population) were infected.
Deaths: Estimates range from 50 million up to 100 million worldwide.
United States Impact:
Deaths: About 675,000 Americans died from the flu.
Life Expectancy: Dropped by 12 years in a single year.
Affected Groups: Unusually high mortality occurred in healthy people aged 20-40, children under 5, and adults over 65.
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+died+in+1918+flu
In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled RFK Jr. warns: "In a million years, I would not take the flu shot .... People who take the flu shot are protected against that strain of flu, but they are 4.4 times more likely to get a non-flu infection.", DugwayDuke wrote: Question: are those who take the flu shot more susceptible to other infections”
AI Says No.
Based on current medical evidence as of December 2025, there is no consistent evidence that taking a flu shot makes you more susceptible to other infections.
While a small number of individual studies have explored a phenomenon called viral interference, the broader scientific consensus remains that the flu vaccine does not increase the risk of other respiratory illnesses.
Key Scientific Findings
- Lack of Viral Interference: Most large-scale studies have found no significant association between flu vaccination and increased risk of non-flu respiratory viruses, such as seasonal coronaviruses or RSV.
-Temporary Immunity Explanation: A single 2012 study suggested a higher risk of other infections, theorizing that because vaccinated people avoid the flu, they miss out on a few weeks of “temporary non-specific immunity” triggered by a natural flu infection. However, subsequent research has largely failed to replicate these results.
- Protection Against Other Risks: Large-scale meta-analyses show that flu vaccination is actually associated with a reduced risk of other complications, including an 18% reduction in general respiratory diseases and a significant reduction in pneumonia.
- No Cross-Susceptibility to COVID-19: Multiple studies, including systematic reviews through 2024 and 2025, have confirmed that flu vaccination does not increase the risk of contracting or suffering severe outcomes from COVID-19.
Common Reasons People May Feel “Sicker”
- It is common for people to mistakenly believe they are more susceptible after a shot due to several factors:
The Two-Week Window: It takes about two weeks for the vaccine to build full immunity. If you are exposed to a virus during this time, you can still get sick.- Other Viruses: The flu shot only protects against specific influenza strains. It does not prevent the “common cold” or other respiratory viruses that circulate at the same time.
Normal Immune Response: Mild side effects like muscle aches or a low-grade fever are signs the body is building protection, not signs of a new infection.Question: “What research supports the viral interference hypothesis and flu shots?”
- Research into the viral interference hypothesis and flu shots is largely centered on a small number of studies that show mixed or conflicting results. While most major public health studies as of late 2025 find no link between the flu vaccine and increased susceptibility to other viruses, a few specific studies are frequently cited as supporting this hypothesis.
Key Studies Supporting Viral Interference
The 2012 Cowling Study: This randomized controlled trial in Hong Kong followed 115 children and found that those who received the trivalent inactivated influenza vaccine (TIV) had a 4.4-fold higher risk of confirmed non-influenza respiratory infections. The researchers hypothesized that by preventing natural flu, the vaccine also prevents the temporary “non-specific immunity” (likely interferon-based) that a natural infection would provide against other viruses.
- The 2020 Wolff Study (DoD Personnel): A study of Department of Defense personnel during the 2017–2018 season found no overall evidence of increased risk for all non-flu viruses combined. However, it did find a statistically significant association between flu vaccination and an increased risk of seasonal coronaviruses (OR = 1.36) and human metapneumovirus (OR = 1.51).
Historical and Theoretical Research: The concept was first described in the 1960s, showing that oral enterovirus vaccines could sometimes decrease the detection of unrelated respiratory viruses, suggesting one virus can “interfere” with another. Modern theories suggest this occurs through competition for cellular receptors or the induction of inhibitory host proteins like interferon.
Context and Contradicting Evidence
- It is important to note that the majority of recent research contradicts these specific findings:
RSV and Parainfluenza: In the same 2020 Wolff study that showed an increased risk for coronaviruses, vaccinated individuals actually showed significant protection against RSV and parainfluenza.
Large-Scale Replications: A three-year U.S. study involving over 10,000 patients from 2010–2013 found no evidence of virus interference or any increased risk of other respiratory infections following flu vaccination.
2025 Health Assessments: Recent peer-reviewed evidence from late 2025 continues to support the overall safety and effectiveness of the seasonal flu shot, alongside COVID-19 and RSV immunizations.
I always rely upon you to provide fake news. Your links are from FAKE NEWS ERA medical establishment. The 2025 Health Assessments claim is vague and relies on un-named 'Recent Peer Reviewd Evidence' just like all the peer-reviewed evidence supporting the Covid 'vaccine' and the ones declaring ivermectin useless and or dangerous.
The same AI will no doubt declare the Covid 'vaccine' safe and effective, because the CDC and Medical establishment banked years worth of fake research to say so. It's not hard to find fake news touting the flu vaccine. One must expend effort to find the truth.
RFJ Jr. cites a Pentagon study: Influenza vaccination and respiratory virus interference among Department of Defense personnel during the 2017-2018 influenza season
He’s staying in his lane so far!
Let’s see if he stays there once we get closer to 2028.
...and yet HE can kill it.
Living up to his reputation.
Meanwhile, the Trump admin couldn’t be taking a worse step for human health than to provide immunity for Bayer/Monsanto with Roundup and the like:
Wrong! In the realm of politics you know a man\woman and whether to support by his past statements as well as his past behavior like his wife.(You brought it up!) The only way around this is to be in a situation where you get to know them by working with him\her. As far as I know RFKjr still has not walked back any of those statements of support for leftism (Cuba’s Communism - “We have much to learn!”) or leftists - Chavez\Maduro.
I approve of his performance so far as you say he stays in his lane. That may or may not continue.
Thanks for posting ‘note. Get shot? No thsnks.
Millions of Americans think the jabs are magic and you aren’t going to change their minds.
ransomnote wrote: “I always rely upon you to provide fake news. Your links are from FAKE NEWS ERA medical establishment.”
ransomnote wrote: “One must expend effort to find the truth.”
Based upon your posting, you’ve never expended the effort to find the truth. Instead, you continue to post only the cerifibably fake news that advances/supports your anti-vaccine narrative.
Obviously, you didn’t read this which directly and completely refutes this fake news video: “The 2020 Wolff Study (DoD Personnel): A study of Department of Defense personnel during the 2017–2018 season found no overall evidence of increased risk for all non-flu viruses combined. However, it did find a statistically significant association between flu vaccination and an increased risk of seasonal coronaviruses (OR = 1.36) and human metapneumovirus (OR = 1.51).”
I wonder what he means by “non-flu infection”. Pneumonia? Covid?
We agree pretty much. I had pretty much the same view of Trump. I’ve said this before in his first term. I was very skeptical of him*. Since he was a New York Republican (sometimes a democrat!) I expected a Trump administration to be something like a Nelson Rockefeller administration. Barely tolerable but not Hellary!! To my surprise and pleasure he “out Reaganed” Reagan!
*Note Trump never expressed support for Cuba, Venezuela or Global Warming! Such support by anybody is a huge Red Flag of concern!!!.
” I don’t like the way RFK Jr. treated his ex-wife “
You mean goading her into committing suicide? Was that wrong? Should he not have done that?
In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled RFK Jr. warns: "In a million years, I would not take the flu shot .... People who take the flu shot are protected against that strain of flu, but they are 4.4 times more likely to get a non-flu infection.", dljordan wrote: Millions of Americans think the jabs are magic and you aren’t going to change their minds.
Yes. A colleague bragged, with a rugged tone of voice and stance, "I am just so vaxxed" as if saying they had honed their level of physical fitness to Olympic levels. Her sister was a nurse, relaying 'concerns' which only slowed her down a tad. Then on to the next booster!
But not when it’s snowing.
Forced to get one 20 years ago. I have since refused because I know the truth.
Avoid processed foods and refined sugar.
Proof positive!
Poor thing ... sounds like she was goad-able.
Did he force her swallow the pills/other means?
I’m not familiar with her method of suicide.
Sad, beyond sad ... but ... goaded?
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