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The Garden Thread - December, 2025
December 1, 2025 | Diana in WI/Greeneyes in Memoriam

Posted on 12/01/2025 5:54:31 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin

The MONTHLY Gardening Thread is a gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

If you have specific question about a plant/problem you are having, please remember to state the Growing Zone where you are located.

This thread is a non-political respite. No matter what, you won’t be flamed, and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Gardening Thread. Planting, Harvest to Table Recipes, Preserving, Good Living - there is no telling where it will go - and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us! Send a Private Message to Diana in Wisconsin if you'd like to be added to/removed from our New & Improved Ping List.

NOTE: This is a once a MONTH Ping List, but we DO post to the thread all throughout the month. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest to Gardeners are welcomed any time.


TOPICS: Agriculture; Food; Gardening; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: food; garden; gardening; hobbies
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To: left that other site

So sweet! I see lots of Milk Bones under the tree for that Doggo. ;)


361 posted on 12/20/2025 4:56:07 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

A Whole Bushel of ‘Em!


362 posted on 12/20/2025 4:59:18 PM PST by left that other site ( For the Lord is our judge, the Lord is our lawgiver, the Lord is our king; He will save us Is.33:22)
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To: shaggy eel

Wow those rose varieties are all new to me. Can you post some pictures.


363 posted on 12/20/2025 5:00:29 PM PST by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: Albion Wilde

I almost said something similar about all those rolling pins, looks like a weapons rack.


364 posted on 12/20/2025 5:01:09 PM PST by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: shaggy eel; MomwithHope

“feijoas...”

Never have heard of that fruit shrub, so I HAD to look! Gorgeous when in bloom and totally interesting all the way around.

https://www.onlyfoods.net/feijoa.html

Mom is our expert Paw Paw grower. Shaggy, I’ll bet you’ve never seen or tasted a Paw Paw...or HAVE you? ;)


365 posted on 12/20/2025 5:06:22 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Liz

Chocolate and Peppermint. Almost as good a combo as Peanut Butter and Chocolate. :)

My SIL and I are always in charge of ‘Fancy Dranks’ at our annual Christmas get-together. This year it will be Peppermint Martinis. HELLO!

https://www.cakenknife.com/peppermint-martini/#recipe


366 posted on 12/20/2025 5:11:14 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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367 posted on 12/20/2025 5:12:01 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: MomwithHope; Albion Wilde

“...looks like a weapons rack.”

Army Training, Ma’am(s)! :)

Nah. If Beau EVER gets out of line, my weapon of choice is the cast iron skillet. He’s pretty HUGE, so I’ll only get the ONE swing at him and then I’ll need to RUN like H#ll, jump on Ithaca and ride to the next COUNTY before he comes to!

P.S. NEVER Poke The Bear! EVER! LOL!


368 posted on 12/20/2025 5:20:03 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: FRiends

I gotta go finish up the supper dishes then settle in for football. Da Packers V. Da Bears.

Opening kick off makes this look like it’s going to be some smash mouth football. See ya in the morning.

P.S. The Bears. Still. Suck!


369 posted on 12/20/2025 5:27:15 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I have not been able to locate any wild grape vines on our place. It’s all open fields/yard with trees right around the house. I may have to buy some grapevine bases for next year’s wreaths & my own florist wire. Mom has plenty left, but I want my own supply.

I managed to get the wreaths done with just cookies, no beer. The wreaths smell so good: cedar & rosemary. They’re rustic & perfect for two guys who loved the outdoors & roaming the mountains. After church tomorrow, mom & I will put them on the graves.


370 posted on 12/20/2025 5:28:46 PM PST by Qiviut (A Mighty Fortress: “...the body they may kill. God’s truth abideth still. His kingdom is forever")
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

The college football game was so bad (our team of choice getting beaten badly) we switched to Packers - Bears. It’s been a much more exciting game!

I am having a hard time staying out of those COOKIES!!


371 posted on 12/20/2025 6:00:00 PM PST by Qiviut (A Mighty Fortress: “...the body they may kill. God’s truth abideth still. His kingdom is forever")
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Your Usha sounds positively wonderful!

I had a crush on one of our exchange students in HS. He was from Canada and while not Movie Star handsome, he was so VERY cute! (Men, if a girl calls you cute, that can also mean handsome. Totally a compliment!) I lost track of him after we graduated, but yeah, our exchange students were pretty neat.


372 posted on 12/20/2025 6:01:59 PM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: shaggy eel

Welcome to the garden thread! I am definitely interested in understanding how to grow shallots. I love them and haven’t figured it out yet.


373 posted on 12/20/2025 6:06:14 PM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: Qiviut; Diana in Wisconsin

We did the same! (Changing the channel for the same reason.)

We went back to Cbus for the day. Visited with an old friend (my hairdresser!) and gave her a homemade gift, a bottle of my lemon verbena liqueur. Did a little shopping but came straight back home. There was construction traffic and lane closures both ways! Yuck!

Since the kids are coming on Christmas Eve and staying for several days, we opted to bypass a visit with them and get home before it got horribly dark. Hubby built us a beautiful fire in the fireplace. (Something I didn’t experience growing up in Florida. That will never get old!)


374 posted on 12/20/2025 6:19:37 PM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: Liz; FamiliarFace; Qiviut; MomwithHope
Aw, thanks! (Mrs. Pete is happy too! Very important!)
375 posted on 12/20/2025 6:46:50 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
If Beau EVER gets out of line, my weapon of choice is the cast iron skillet.

Yep, if you're going to aim for the king, you'd better not miss. But from what you've alluded, he's a great guy, so.... enough with this silliness!

376 posted on 12/20/2025 6:55:51 PM PST by Albion Wilde (To live free is the greatest gift; to die free is the greatest victory. —Erica Kirk)
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To: MomwithHope
,,, G'day Mom. I rarely link images so now's the time to get good at it. I'll ping you when I've got some shots - most likely from sites rather than my own shots, as I don't stash them on cloud sites, just on my phone. I'll ask my daughter what's doable. Here's a link that generally shows places around New Zealand; some are summer shots -

https://www.facebook.com/groups/ExploreNewZealand/posts/2324516837925231/

377 posted on 12/20/2025 7:26:51 PM PST by shaggy eel (A long way south of the border.)
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To: FamiliarFace
,,, thank you, thank you! We get seedlings that are almost needle thin, although for more money there's ones that are more advanced. The seedlings go in supermarket cardboard egg trays with potting mix. The big deal in my region (which has commercial croppers and egg producers) is chicken manure. Potting mix and water gets the seedlings off to a good start but he turbo charger is chicken manure. This comes in white plastic bags which have no trademarks or any writing on them so I can only estimate they're 30-40kg. Bags that size are economical... genrarally, anywhere is the same - the less you buy, the higher the cost.

As the plant grows the roots will be strong enough to take the manure from the top of the soil with water added. If the manure is added to the potting mix when the plants are small the roots could get burned. Enough sun and try keeping them out of the wind to start with. We transplant them to hypertufa pots and keep them reasonably close to the house (like the herbs) so we can get them quickly for the kitchen.

378 posted on 12/20/2025 7:39:25 PM PST by shaggy eel (A long way south of the border.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; MomwithHope

,,, paw paw is too tropical for NZ. We get it from Fiji and other Pacific Islands. This country is full of micro climates. Some people in the far north of the North Island can grow bananas but the quality would never match the islands nearer the equator. The last time I had paw paw was at breakfast at my hotel in Bangkok on the way back from Europe in 2019. It’s a real treat here.


379 posted on 12/20/2025 7:46:10 PM PST by shaggy eel (A long way south of the border.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
,,, just snatched that peppermint martini recipe you posted - that will lift our social standing on New Year's Eve LOL!!

I've just had a troll around and found this site, which explains quite a bit on roses here...

https://nzroses.org.nz/rose-finder/

380 posted on 12/20/2025 7:54:31 PM PST by shaggy eel (A long way south of the border.)
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