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X’s new location labels unmask users. Insiders say the idea was rejected for years.
NBC News ^ | 11/25/2025 11:12 AM CST | David Ingram, Kevin Collier, Ben Goggin, Bruna Horvath

Posted on 11/25/2025 5:44:48 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

Advocates for transparency on social media cheered this weekend when X, the app owned by tech billionaire Elon Musk, rolled out a new feature that disclosed what the company said were the country locations of accounts.

The feature appeared to unmask a number of accounts that were portraying themselves as belonging to Americans but in reality were based in countries such as India, Thailand and Bangladesh.

But by Monday, the effectiveness and accuracy of the feature were already in question, as security experts, social media researchers and two former X employees said the location information could be inaccurate or spoofed using widely available technology, such as virtual private networks (VPNs), to hide their locations.

The former employees said the idea had been pitched since at least 2018, but had been repeatedly shot down.

“Now that this feature exists, I think it’s absolutely going to be exploited, and people will learn to dodge it very quickly,” said Darren Linvill, a professor and a co-director of Clemson University’s Media Forensics Hub.

The geolocation information began appearing over the weekend on X users’ accounts, where an “about” page displays the month and year users joined, where their accounts are purportedly based, whether they used country-specific app stores and potentially other details.

Previously, the only location information on accounts was what users had entered themselves, which the platform didn’t fact-check. On some accounts, that might be nothing at all or joke locations. X also doesn’t require accounts to use real names, so the new feature kicked off a wave of sleuthing.

It wasn’t immediately clear what data X was using to label accounts’ locations, but like many tech companies, X may have access to signals such as internet protocol (IP) addresses, phone numbers or devices’ GPS data...

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With a VPN you can make your apparent location anywhere your VPN provider hosts servers.
1 posted on 11/25/2025 5:44:48 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

My understanding, though, is that if you’re on a VPN, it’ll also show that as well.


2 posted on 11/25/2025 5:53:38 PM PST by cross_bearer_02
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Of course a lot of cards will say they’re from Intercourse Pennsylvania and other risque locales or places with amusing names.


3 posted on 11/25/2025 5:54:59 PM PST by xp38
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Would X be able to detect that the location is through a VPN and put a tag on it to warn viewers? At least people will know.


4 posted on 11/25/2025 5:55:21 PM PST by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

VPN causes me two constant headaches.
1. If I want a shopping site to give me information about local stores (e.g., Home Depot), my VPN says I’m over in Seattle or Los Angeles and I get information about what’s in stock at those Home Depot stores.
2. Lots of graphics won’t display correctly if you are using a VPN. Pookie’s Toons often won’t load unless I turn the VPN off.


5 posted on 11/25/2025 5:55:33 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

NBC complaining, what a joke.


6 posted on 11/25/2025 5:55:59 PM PST by Fungi
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To: cross_bearer_02
My understanding, though, is that if you’re on a VPN, it’ll also show that as well.

Yes, supposedly with a ! after your location, indicating it is suspect.

7 posted on 11/25/2025 5:58:34 PM PST by montag813
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To: cross_bearer_02
My understanding, though, is that if you’re on a VPN, it’ll also show that as well.

The IP addresses of VPN providers are well known, but the only information they get is that your packets are coming from and going to a specific VPN server. The packets between your computer and your VPN are encrypted, so there is no way of identifying your local IP address, which ties you to your Internet Service Provider who could identify you if you weren't using a VPN. All your ISP knows is all your encrypted traffic is going through a VPN server.

8 posted on 11/25/2025 6:01:10 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (I have no answers. Only questions.)
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......X may have access to signals such as internet protocol (IP) addresses......

Stupid thing to say. Nearly every e-commerce website I go to tells me the location of my IP address.

9 posted on 11/25/2025 6:03:21 PM PST by jimtorr
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Stupid thing to say. Nearly every e-commerce website I go to tells me the location of my IP address.

If you are using a VPN they know the IP address of the VPN server you are using, not your IP address.

There is no way to link the Virtual Private Network IP address assigned to your session by your VPN provider to the IP address assigned to your session by your Internet Service provider.

A VPN is an anonymizer.

10 posted on 11/25/2025 6:08:13 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (I have no answers. Only questions.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Question: If I am in Mumbai, India, and using a VPN, no one will know that I am in Mumbai. But will they know I’m in India? Or will they possibly be told that I am in Germany? or Japan? It seems highly unlikely that the IP address will resolve to, say, California. But I’m not sure how it works.


11 posted on 11/25/2025 6:14:10 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Democrats seek power through cheating and assassination. They are sociopaths. They just want power.)
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To: xp38

Virginville, Blue Ball, and possibly the favorite of Orange Man Bad: Bird-in-Hand.


12 posted on 11/25/2025 6:14:30 PM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: xp38

Boring, Oregon.

Yawn.


13 posted on 11/25/2025 6:15:07 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Communism and islam: failed in every country in modern history.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Question: If I am in Mumbai, India, and using a VPN, no one will know that I am in Mumbai. But will they know I’m in India? Or will they possibly be told that I am in Germany? or Japan? It seems highly unlikely that the IP address will resolve to, say, California. But I’m not sure how it works.

How does a vpn prevent people from knowing who you are?

A VPN (Virtual Private Network) hides your real identity online by acting as a secure middleman between your device and the internet. Here's exactly how it prevents people (websites, ISPs, advertisers, hackers, etc.) from knowing who you really are:

1. Hides Your Real IP Address (the main way you're identified)

2. Encrypts All Your Traffic3. Prevents Local Network Snooping4. Bypasses Geo-Restrictions & CensorshipWhat a Good VPN Still Can't Fully Hide (Limitations)
Threat
Can a VPN hide it?
Notes
Your real IP from websites
Yes
They only see VPN IP
Your ISP knowing you use a VPN
No
They see encrypted traffic to VPN server
Your identity if you log in
No
Logging into Gmail/Facebook reveals who you are
Malware/keyloggers on your device
No
VPN doesn't protect against local threats
DNS leaks / WebRTC leaks
Sometimes
Only if the VPN is poorly configured
Government with massive resources
Partially
Very advanced attackers (NSA-level) may deanonymize in rare cases
Summary: How anonymous are you with a VPN?Best practice: Use a trusted no-logs VPN (like Mullvad, ProtonVPN, or IVPN) that’s been independently audited, enable the kill switch, and avoid logging into personal accounts when you need maximum privacy.
14 posted on 11/25/2025 6:19:42 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (I have no answers. Only questions.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

But you have to keep it up all the time I would imagine and things happen. Not sure what happens if you4 location changes.


15 posted on 11/25/2025 6:28:39 PM PST by gunnut
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To: ClearCase_guy

Express VPN lets you choose different countries to connect through.

It’s good for getting airline tickets because Americans are charged a premium others don’t have to pay.💰


16 posted on 11/25/2025 6:30:52 PM PST by packagingguy
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To: ClearCase_guy

Depends on where the VPN is hosted. Most VPN providers have a list of places you can pick from.


17 posted on 11/25/2025 6:31:02 PM PST by gunnut
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To: gunnut

I don’t understand your question. I personally configured our VPN service to my WiFi router, so all my and my wife’s devices are behind a VPN when connected by WiFi.

If you are using public WiFi you can install a VPN app from your VPN provider on your phone or laptop and run it while connected to public WiFi.

People can set up a fake access point from their laptop. When you connect to it to get free internet service they can see everything you are doing, including typing usernames and passwords. If you are behind a VPN you are safe even if you are connected to a fake access point because everything you do is encrypted.


18 posted on 11/25/2025 6:40:28 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (I have no answers. Only questions.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Mouth of Wilson, Virginia


19 posted on 11/25/2025 6:44:06 PM PST by deks (Deo duce, ferro comitante · God for guide, sword for companion)
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To: xp38

Virginia may be for lovers, but we have Intercourse in Pennsylvania.


20 posted on 11/25/2025 6:49:30 PM PST by EvilCapitalist (Pets are no substitute for children)
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