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Posted on 11/15/2025 3:34:19 AM PST by daniel1212
Western automotive and green energy executives who visit China are returning humbled — and even terrified.
As The Telegraph reports, the executives are warning that the country’s heavily automated manufacturing industry could quickly leave Western nations behind, especially when it comes to electric vehicles.
“We are in a global competition with China, and it’s not just EVs,” Ford CEO Jim Farley told The Verge last month. “And if we lose this, we do not have a future at Ford.”
“You get this sense of a change, where China’s competitiveness has gone from being about government subsidies and low wages to a tremendous number of highly skilled, educated engineers who are innovating like mad,” British energy supplier Octopus CEO Greg Jackson told the newspaper.”
According to recent figures by the International Federation of Robotics, China has deployed orders of magnitude more industrial robots than Germany, the US, and the UK.
“China has quite a notable demographic problem but its manufacturing is, generally, quite labor-intensive,” Bismarck Analysis analyst Rian Whitton told The Telegraph... not because they expect they’ll be able to get higher margins — that is usually the idea in the West — but to compensate for this population decline and to get a competitive advantage.”
The country’s space program has also made massive strides, stoking fears of China beating the US back to the Moon.
While the United States has put protectionist measures in place to shield domestic producers and fend off steep competition, Chinese-made EVs have made a big impression in Europe.
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All well and good, but what pronouns are the robots using?
Indeed. China is the closest to the US in the 1940.s See
How ridiculous was American production in World War 2? Quora ^ | 2019 | Chris Morehouse This is Willow Run. It was a B-24 plant built by Ford to mass produce the bomber. It ran its line 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and produced a complete B-24 every 63 minutes on average. At peak, it produced 100 bombers in just two days.
China is headed where Japan is today.
US companies have a pathological obsession with controlling expenses because they are run by accountants. There is no vision for the business, only for reducing money going out to an absurd level. The company stagnates and has to outsource what should be their core competency just to survive.
China upgrades the factories anyway because they aren’t under the thumb of US companies’ accountants.
All corporations are affected by this unless somehow they remained private.
When enforcement of the Clean Water Act killed the plating business, Silicon Valley’s days as a manufacturing and development center were numbered.
Related: The Death of Vocational Education and the Demise of the American Middle Class
Meanwhile,
Ford CEO says he has 5000 open mechanic jobs with 6- ... MSNhttps://www.msn.com › money › careersandeducation › f... 43 minutes ago — Ford CEO says he has 5,000 open mechanic jobs with 6-figure salaries from the shortage of manually skilled workers: 'We are in trouble in our
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New Creepy Robots at the Chinese Exhibition IROS 2025
Nov 14, 2025
18 minute video
This video is a detailed review of the IROS 2025 robotics exhibition in Hangzhou. The video shows new robots from China that will be used in factories, logistics, and homes.
👁 You will see the latest humanoid robots, robotic dogs, and manipulators. The video provides specifications, prices, and release dates for robots from EngineAI, Unitree, Dobot, and AgiBot. The answers to questions about how robots will replace humans in manufacturing and services are given.
We - and I pay "taxes" by purchasing items no longer made in the US, or at least at anything close to competitive prices (w/ free shipping). From this week (for bike repair ministry. free labor, costs at approx. cost), by the grace of God.
I was just out in Thailand and there are LOTS of really nice chinese EVs there. They’re pretty impressive vehicles and for excellent prices. Don’t know how reliable they are but...
The auotmobile peaked until Henry Ford found a way to make a 500$ car. Before that cars were 2-3000$.
What will you blather about when EVs are ~20K, and the “fuel” bill is 10-20$ a month rather than 300-400$ of gas?
Henry Ford also figured out he’d sell more cars if he paid his own employees enough to afford one.
Plus, it helped with hiring and retention.
Japan led in manufacturing robotics, long before China.
And U.S. navy ship building industry were similarly humbled when they viewed modern ship building in South Korea.
This is NOT so much a China vs the U.S. issue, as it is the U.S. vs Asia issue. The cause is the long running case of U.S. offshoring so much manufacturing, as the capital for the latest manufacturing goes where manufacturers want and chose to produce from. Yes, Asia has more of the installed robotics in manufacturing, because that is where so much capital for manufacturing has been going, including foolish American capital.
There’s the problem they had “green energy” executives along!
Seems like you have a bunch of pie in the sky thoughts going on there. When are EVs going to cost $20K, when will electricity prices go down so your $10-$20 dream of fuel costs comes true?
Dude, you are so out of touch.
I pay 10$ a month for unlimited night-time charging in Texas for my EV.
That saves me ~300$ a month.
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