Posted on 11/02/2025 7:41:24 AM PST by MtnClimber
By criticizing the secretary’s policies publicly and casting aspersions on his fitness for the office he holds, these officers are flaunting both fundamental leadership principles and long-established military tradition.
Trump derangement syndrome and its variant, Hegseth derangement syndrome (HDS), continue to infect an undetermined number of victims in the military. Like the original affliction, this new strain is a debilitating malady that deprives the aggrieved victim of the ability to think and act rationally. Like the sufferers of TDS who warn the country that Trump is politicizing the justice system by investigating and prosecuting some who have opposed him, the HDS symptoms can include a total lack of self-awareness that it is their own actions that are the problem. It leads the sufferers into behavior that, had they not lost their wits, they would recognize as highly improper, even destructive.
The Officers Bellyache, Publicly but Anonymously
The latest manifestation of HDS is documented by The Washington Times in “‘He lost us’: Generals, senior officers say trust in Hegseth has evaporated.” In it, The Times serves as a vehicle for anonymous “generals” and other officers to lambast and denigrate Secretary of War Pete Hegseth following his late September speech at Quantico. The lede sets the tone:
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has lost the trust and respect of some top military commanders, with his public “grandstanding” widely seen as unprofessional and the personnel moves made by the former cable TV host leading to an unprecedented and dangerous exodus of talent from the Pentagon, said current senior military officers and current and former Defense Department officials.
Numerous high-ranking officers painted Mr. Hegseth’s Sept. 30 speech to hundreds of generals and admirals gathered at Marine Corps Base Quantico in Virginia as a turning point in how his leadership style, attitude and overall competency are viewed in the upper echelons of the U.S. armed forces.
“It was a massive waste of time …,” one current Army general told The Washington Times.
Let’s take a look at some of the attacks that the officers make. The “current general” quoted in the article’s title anoints himself to speak for all the generals in the military: “If he ever had us, he lost us.”
Huh? “IF he ever had us ….”? Translation: “We probably never supported him, but now we sure don’t.”
Informants lament the “unprecedented chaos” in the Pentagon, evidenced by a “level of turnover among high-ranking officers … not … seen in recent history.” However, they appear blissfully oblivious to the fact that it is precisely high-ranking anonymous complainers who demonstrate the need for a thorough housecleaning in the Pentagon. That includes General If-He-Ever-Had-Us.
Many complainers clearly grouse that Secretary Hegseth has a “seeming obsession with reversing the woke military policies of past administrations.” Officers cited by The Times describe Hegseth as “viewing the job through the lens of a junior officer, which has often led him to fixate on issues that otherwise could be left to the services or lower-ranking officials.” He is engaged in “grandstanding,” “theater,” and as a “current senior officer” wants everyone to know, “mainly what I see from him are not serious things.” It’s “internal politics and drama. That’s mostly what I see.” According to another anonymous “current senior officer,” apparently Hegseth’s cleaning house of low-performing staff shows he is presiding over the “opposite of a meritocracy.”
Mr. Secretary, Don’t You Dare Lecture Us About Problems That We Failed to Correct
One of the complainers’ principal criticisms is that Secretary Hegseth has what one “source” labeled “the mentality of a midgrade officer” who lectured the generals about “fitness, grooming standards and other issues that typically don’t reach the desk of the defense secretary.” The aforementioned “current army general” felt compelled to be quoted about Hegseth’s focus on lax grooming standards by saying that it’s “not about f— haircuts.”
Lax fitness and grooming standards. Could he be talking about this guy?
The anonymous “generals” and other unnamed “senior officers” are like the proverbial prodigal son who killed his parents and then pleaded for mercy because he was an orphan. They are the authors of that which they now complain.
It is correct that such matters ordinarily are not addressed at the secretary’s level. But Hegseth was compelled to address them because many of these things, such as grooming and physical fitness standards, have not been adequately addressed at lower levels. Some say that the problem has reached endemic levels in some units. If generals had rigorously enforced high standards, then the secretary of war would not have to do so. This was the secretary telling his generals to get on the job.
Rank Insubordination from a Coterie of Cowards
The anonymous officers who trash the secretary of war reveal their hearts by engaging in rank insubordination while hiding their identities. The Washington Times says it was because “of their concern that they would be fired for providing their honest assessments.” No, their anonymity is a reflection of their cowardice, not their commitment to truth.
If a serving officer disagrees with a lawful order or policy, he has two courses of action: He may express his disagreements privately to his commander or superior officer and then diligently obey if his senior disagrees. Or, he can resign if he believes that it is critical for the public to hear his views. Then he can voice his criticisms publicly. But not before.
These senior officers’ failure to follow either acceptable option violates fundamental principles of military leadership. Officers and NCOs are routinely given orders or required to implement policies that they may question. But once their dissenting views have been heard, their duty is to pass on and implement the order as if it were their own. That is fundamental to military leadership.
For example, if a company commander disagreed with his battalion commander’s attack plan and his objections are overruled, try to imagine the effect on “good order and discipline” if he were to tell his subordinates, “Well, I disagree with the order to conduct this attack at night, but the colonel is making us do it. He’s bucking for a star, so it’s all about him.” Not only would this make the attack more likely to fail, but it would assure his relief from command if his colonel found out what he said.
In this case, the secretary has publicly announced his and the administration’s positions. The complainers apparently disagree with many. But now that the secretary has made these positions public, all these officers have a straightforward duty: keep their disagreement to themselves until they retire. They violate that duty when they grouse to the media about their superior officer.
Are These Generals and Senior Officers Courting a Federal Offense?
By criticizing the secretary’s policies publicly and casting aspersions on his fitness for the office he holds, these officers are flaunting both fundamental leadership principles and long-established military tradition, while simultaneously displaying their unfitness to serve. But their conduct also may be a violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
Article 88 of the UCMJ provides that “any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words” against senior officials, including the secretary of defense, “shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.” Nota bene: Truth of the statement is not a defense; contemptuous words suffice regardless of intent.
Article 134, called the “General Article,” proscribes “disorders and neglects to the prejudice of good order and discipline in the armed forces [and] all conduct of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces.”
Violations of either Article could be punishable by prison time, dismissal from the service, and forfeiture of all pay and allowances.
The officers’ comments for publication by The Washington Times are not just improper criticisms of policy decisions. Many are also personalized attacks on the secretary and appear to cross the line into the circle of “contemptuous words.” Readers can decide whether any of these comments by officers or other “high-level sources” either constitute “contemptuous words” directed against the secretary or whether they are prejudicial to “good order and discipline:”
- “It was a massive waste of time. … If he ever had us, he lost us.”
- “The theater of it all is below our institution. … They don’t have to be announced on stage in public in this grandstanding kind of way.”
- “High-level sources said that they believe Mr. Hegseth is simultaneously doing deep damage to the military …”
- “Across the services, we are bleeding talent, talented generals and flag officers, for what appears to be the opposite of a meritocracy.”
- “It seems like it’s all about one guy here.”
- “Mainly what I see from him are not serious things … [I]nternal politics and drama. That’s mostly what I see.”
- “Numerous sources, including military officers and current and former civilian officials in the Defense Department, described Mr. Hegseth as viewing the job through the lens of a junior officer …”
- “I hope all of this is temporary … Who knows how long he’ll be in the position and how much damage he can do.”
The Secretary Has Options
The secretary has a number of options if the rebellious officers can be identified. One is to issue letters of reprimand, which can trigger a grade determination board to decide whether they should be retired at their current rank or at a lower rank. Another is to convene an Article 32 investigation to determine if they should be referred for trial by general court-martial. A third is offer them non-judicial punishment under Article 15, which they could refuse if they preferred to be tried by court martial.
If a junior officer serving under the complaining senior officers had complained to a newspaper that their commanding general was “doing deep damage to the military,” had “the mentality of a midgrade officer,” and was engaged in “grandstanding,” “theatrics,” and “drama,” that officer would be relieved, court martialed, and likely cashiered from the military with head-spinning speed.
But these same senior officers, who would not tolerate such conduct for an instant if it were directed against them, feel free to trash the secretary of war and escape the consequences. Should not they be judged by the same standards?
What a bunch of hypocrites.
No one at or above O-6 should be promoted again without extensive vetting. Those below O-6 better toe the line as well.
The SNCO group needs to be ushered out the doors for the most part and replaced by those promoted for merit rather than DEI.
RIF them.
When I served (which was a few decades ago), you were free to criticize your superiors, and could do so at the Captain’s Mast or a Court Martial. Then you could wave bye bye to any career ambitions you might have had. Of course, we didn’t have men wearing dresses then either.
And the Washington Times, so who’s to say it even happened? Remember Jayson Blair at the NYT just making up stories? And there have been several other fake news scandals.
1980 the Washington Post got a Pulitzer for “Jimmy’s World” about an 8 year old heroin addict who did not exist.
And who can forget Walter Durante?
Many of these quoted “generals” may not even exist. I am sure many of them dislike Hegseth, but the quotes in the story may simply be fake.
“Compared to any other military parade in the world, the appearance of our soldiers was a national embarrassment.”
2005 I was in a convoy going north on MSR Tampa to Baghdad when we came up on a MP cutvee in the R lane going a bit slower. Standing out of the top hatch was a female in Army t-shirt, long hair flowing in the wind, shaking her head. No kevlar, LBE, or even a weapon aka Out of Uniform. She was taunting locals imo. This was in an area just south of Baghdad which was populated with Sunnis (Saddam’s deposed population, out of power aka bitter). I thought, wtf is she doing, she’s gonna get sniped for sure. Sure enough a week later she was. Read the sob story from back home about her loss. Indiana I think, quotes from her sister about how ‘whatever’ she was. No, she was just a stoopid.
Ppl who are all full of themselves never seem to learn. The only question is how many they take out with them when they go.
Unreal... and who in her unit leadership tolerated that. And WHY? Because the fear of harassment was so very real. And it’s awful to say, but taunting the local Sunnis for fun isn’t just about her.
They might snipe her next time. OR next time, they might have an IED waiting that your vehicle full of men gets hit with because of her taunting.
Hegseth needed to get this unsat behavior stopped. And the generals meeting is a “before and after” moment that can hopefully change things in ways that another directive being issued couldn’t.
These officers are helping the Administration and The Secretary of war to identify unfit officers in need of separation.
Any of those guys in the auditorium who couldn’t see the man on stage, the SecWar, beyond anything but a midgrade officer should leave. If they have spoken out against him, they need to be outed and court martialed.
In a oinch these officers would refuse to obey orders that do not comport with their ideology. They are the ones who would try to steer the military or units of it to support or make a coup.
We sure would like to put names of these strategic military geniuses onto their anonymous whining……..
Maybe they should spend more time studying the lost art of actually winning American wars.
Polygraph every single flag officer with a Counterintelligence poly, with ONE more question added to it. That will get the 20% reduction Hegseth wanted.
These “top military commanders” got where they are by fully embracing and promoting the culture Hegseth intends to erase. So, they can lose themselves right out the door for all I care. Bunch of Obama butt kissers the lot of them.
Flouting, not flaunting. Hard to believe this passed editing.
Officers in the U.S. military who have moral or ethical problems serving their superiors, as professionals need to resign. Then, as civilians, even as FORMER officers, they are free to say whatever they want.
As actively serving U.S. military officers they undermine the need for recognizing the authority of superiors all along the chain of command, which undermines the chain of command itself, including their own authority, when they publicly vent their moral or ethical opposition to their own superiors.
Even in private business, when you cannot ethically abide by what your superiors are doing, the professional thing to do, the honorable thing to do, is to resign.
Serving U.S. military officers have the same responsibility, and even more so because their missions involve national security and national defense.
If you don’t want to break things and kill people, then GTFO. If you stay in, keep your opinions to yourself and do as you are ordered.
If we want your opinion, we’ll tell you what it is . . .
Better get and use a bigger plunger...
There are lots of vile-smelling turds still floating around the toilet bowl (Pentagon)...
Pete needs to flush more than once.
I am a no-thinging here, but....
Surely this is exactly the feedback that was expected from the officers affected by the service policy changes.
In other words.
Exactly what Trump and Hegseth were looking for.
Hegseth was one of Trump’s worst appointments, he had absolutely no managerial experience trying to run a complicated Department like the DOD. Of course he lost the respect of the Officer Corps, he is Immature and a Disaster as a leader.
Most don’t know this but in the late 1940’s there was a revolt of the Admirals.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolt_of_the_Admirals
This was the basis of the book and movie 7 Days in May.
He was not hired to manage, others below him do that...his job is to dump the dead weight, expose and kick them to the curb...of course the dead weight is going to cry...too bad.
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