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Posted on 10/29/2025 2:23:35 AM PDT by WhiteHatBobby0701
LOS ANGELES (AP) — Admitting he came close to putting a position player on the mound for the first time in World Series history, Los Angeles Dodgers manager Dave Roberts said a month ago he never would have believed he’d face that decision.
“I would have thought I was under the influence of something, for sure,” he said.
A day after the Dodgers beat the Toronto Blue Jays 6-5 on Freddie Freeman’s 18th-inning home run off Brendon Little to take a 2-1 lead in the best-of-seven Series, both managers said Tuesday they were getting close to having to send a position player to the mound in a game of utmost importance because they were running out of available pitchers.
Yet, neither was immediately in favor of adopting in the postseason the automatic-runner rule used in the regular season since 2020, in which each team starts every extra inning with a runner at second base. Among 209 extra-inning games this season, all ended by the 13th. In the six seasons with the “ghost” runner, the longest was the Dodgers’ 16-inning win over San Diego on Aug. 25, 2021.
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Need to go back to that, you don’t deserve a win, if you can’t do it in 60 minutes. Except for the playoffs.
It's still dumb as hell -- and no different than the stupid "ghost runner" rule in baseball.
There are ties in the rule book.
Rule 3-3-3:
(a) “The referee may suspend the game temporarily when conditions warrant such action.”
(b) “When the game is stopped by actions of a person(s) not subject to the rules, or for any other reasons not specified in the rules, and cannot continue, the referee shall:
1. Suspend play and direct the players to their team areas.
2. Refer the problem to those responsible for the game’s management.
3. Resume the game when conditions are satisfactory.
(c) “If a game is suspended under Rules 3-3-3-a and b before the end of the fourth period and cannot be resumed, there are four possible options:
1. Resume the game at a later date;
2. Terminate the game with a determined final score;
3. Forfeit of the game; or
4. Declare a no contest.
The option that takes effect shall be determined by conference policy if both institutions are members of the same conference. In non-conference competition, the directors of athletics at the participating
institutions or their designees, in consultation with the coaches, must agree on one of the four options. This agreement will include the final score if the game is terminated (Rule 8-1-2). In the event that the directors of athletics do not reach an agreement, the conference policy of the home team shall be used to determine the outcome.”
(d) “If a game is suspended under Rules 3-3-3-a and b after four periods of play and cannot be resumed, the game shall be ruled a tie. The final score shall be the score at the end of the last completed period.”
Case (3-3-3-d): Game is tied at the end of regulation. First team scores touchdown and extra point. Lightning is on the field and there are tornadoes in the area, or a mandatory evacuation notice is given for a hurricane. Curfew (in conference manuals) is reached. Game cannot continue. Since the second team did not have a chance to play, the score is wiped out, like baseball if an inning is not completed. By rule, it is a tied game.
The NCAA can rule for championship games or elimination playoffs the game continues. But in regular season play, the game is called official and it’s a draw by emergency. Same thing in MLB if there is a tie game at the end of the season when the game is suspended by rain or lightning. If there is no need to finish the game, the game is a tie. The 2016 Chicago Cubs finished 103–58–1 because of the 6-inning tie at Pittsburgh on September 29, 2016 that was 1-1 when rain suspended the game. With no need to finish the game, they called it a tie since it was past six innings.
What I can’t figure out is why some of Manfraud’s stupid new rules are used in the postseason but others aren’t. Apparently, they still use the “three batter rule” for relief pitchers and the pitch clock.
What’s comedic is how often the ersatz runner on second STILL doesn’t score. For us old-timers, scoring with a man on second and no outs is easy. 1) bunt the runner over to third where 2) almost any fair ball will score the run. So many of these clowns don’t understand situational baserunning that they can’t make any advancement. The inning starts with the runner on second and he’s STILL THERE when the inning is over!
Your shoulder might hurt now, but I doubt that an 11 inning baseball game played 30 years ago has anything to do with it.
An automatic runner should be just that: some sort of android programmed to react as a human runner would (not remote-controlled). Sliding, stealing bases, running over the catcher, whatever.
Just do what they do in Banana Ball with Showdowns.
In the era of the Universal DH, they don’t care for bunting. It doesn’t appeal. It’s illegal in “Banana Ball”. Managers refuse to play bunts because they don’t have to worry about the pitcher bunting. Also the pitchers may be strikeout pitchers and hurl 100 MPH pitches that make it hard to bunt.
Ever watched the KBO “Bunt Derby” in their All Star Game? It’s the best example of precision hitting.
Nobody cares for precision hitting.
That’s why people don’t want golf courses that prevent the player from hitting a driver off the tee and forces the tee shot to be hit with an iron or hybrid. They want
Ice what?
no
Yeah. Kind of a stupid rant. But forgive an old curmudgeon.
yes
no
“Antics with semantics”
We get these discussions in the NHL after epic OTs. What they people starting the discussions forget is they’re epic for a reason, they don’t happen that often. I mean really when was the last 27 inning baseball game? The NHL was really looking at it hard during the era of the neutral zone trap, when it seemed like you couldn’t get a playoff series without at least 1 triple OT game. But they made the right decision (tweaked the rules and killed the trap). Don’t cut off your sport’s chance to have something amazing. Cause these things are amazing. Those of us watching hockey in 1987 will never forget the Easter Epic, Bill Clement taking his shirt off during 4th or 5th intermission, the news that Capital Centre management opened the doors at midnight and had the radio coverage announce that if you were still awake come to the game. Just amazing. The last thing any sport should do is legislate out these once in a lifetime events, in the end that’s what sport is about.
In the regular season a smart manager might use his relief pitchers in a way that would avoid burning them out for multiple games by pitching too many innings in an extra-inning game. As a manager, I might be inclined to bring a position player in to pitch as early as the 12th or 13th inning. Maybe I'd effectively concede a win in that game, but I would be better positioned to win the next two or three.
You don't have the option to do that in the post-season.
Building a post-season roster differently would also help. I'd carry a fifth or sixth starter who would be able to pitch 5+ innings in an epic game like the one the other night.
In the regular season a smart manager might use his relief pitchers in a way that would avoid burning them out for multiple games by pitching too many innings in an extra-inning game. As a manager, I might be inclined to bring a position player in to pitch as early as the 12th or 13th inning. Maybe I’d effectively concede a win in that game, but I would be better positioned to win the next two or three.
Which is one of the reasons I said that Pete Rose was wrong to bet on his own team, while managing it.
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