Posted on 10/18/2025 9:22:31 PM PDT by RandFan
@beinlibertarian
Dear MAGA,
Nothing will lose libertarian support for Republicans like Trump taking uncalled for shots at Constitutional Conservatives like Rand Paul and Thomas Massie while supporting Lindsey Graham and Fauci.
That might not be as big as the incentive is to take Miriam Adelson and assorted Epstein client list billionaire money…
But the swamp needs to be drained, not fertilized.
Trump won’t be President forever.
Some of you MAGA loyalists are going to feel bad for selling your soul to the cult of personality when his term is up.
At some point “he’s better than Kamala and Biden” isn’t going to matter.
You want smaller government?
You want a balanced budget?
You want less taxes?
You want to end foreign aid and put America First?
You want to end the Fed?
You want to abolish the IRS?
You want to abolish the Department of Education?
Support the people who are putting the bills up instead of letting a big spending New York liberal convince you that they are “grandstanders”
You have to hold him accountable if you playing the long game to 2028
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Massie really lost me when he jumped on the left’s “Trump is with Epstein” train. That’s liberal BS and we all know it, but he’s such a fool that he thought that it would elevate his standing as a potential candidate in 2028. And believe me, it’s all about 2028 for him. He’s purely an opportunist.
Also, how can anybody even insinuate that Trump is support of Fauci in any way, shape, or form? That’s a complete lie. That is the kind of lie that the left usually tells when they try to frame someone as something that they are not. The same tactic they’ve been using against the late Charlie Kirk.
Libertarians are globalists. They are unacceptable.
This argument falls on the false premise. These are not constitutional conservatives. They are self-aggrandizing fools who profit from gathering the opposition around themselves and then using their support to accomplish nothing - while getting well paid-off for it.
Trumps support of Lindsey is a bad move. But.. people are stupid
And he may very well be elected again, if the left runs another Black HRC / Hakeem Jeffersie type against him.
I don’t think Ayn Rand would agree with this screed...
When I see those two together, I wonder “which twin has the Toni?”
What are Massie’s top three accomplishments?
Please list them.
PS - being a “Constitutional Conservative Hood Ornament” doesn’t count.
Hi...I am a Libertarian, yes. HOWEVER, I am a military veteran, soI just might not fit your pigeon hole. I remember those 1950’s Anti-Communist laws Why not, again? We would not have the AOC’s of the world to keep tabs on.I believe borders are a good thing, politically an physically. I believe in a national FAFO policy.I believe in a minimum taxaton,for governmental maintenance and to support the military operations, both special and mundane. Hey got to eat, have a place to shower and sleep, right? Without an old moldy building.Anf, yes, get paid Once a veteran, be cared for, for they put their butts on the line for the rest of us, compared to a 3rd generational porch sitter. As far as “the pigeon hole of no religious conviction” is concerned, it is true that I do not ascribe to “the dogmatics of the Abrahamic faith”. That does not mean that I am without spiritual convictions.I still try to hold that from Friday till Saturday as a period of rest. I sill hold to th term “a beautiful corner” in my house. From the days of Hammurabi there exist a few “do not ‘s” that still apply. I have “kept my own books” as to finance, for more than 50years. I am for budgets, not an early allowance. Politics should be enacted as it was with Theodore Roosevelt, ot Bill Clinton, or, Jimmy Carter. The line from a Motown song:”Vote for me, and I’ll set you free!”, is still being spewed today. America has been a nation of achiever, innovators, and folks putting themselves into their work, whether by knuckle or cranium. The wages, now being chewed up on by governmental affixed inflation, was a reason to become an American, as was the idea of political freedom, when compared to the Iron/Bamboo curtain. WHATINTHEWIDEWIDEWORLDOFSPORTS happened to any of that? “I’m in it for me!” Not what would be good for my kid, the nation, just “me, now”! I saw the first whispers of this when DowChemical of Delaware supported the political asperations of a Scranton, Pennsylvania fellow opting for he single senatorial race for the State of Delaware. That was so last millennium! Yet, it still goes today.
The genders two have been fine for a few millennium, why change for a population count of three football stadiums?
We won the vote for English, with our founding fathers, why change it now? I don’t agree with it, but abortion other than rape, should not be used to keep the 42nd Street folks of the evening out of work. Foreign “aid” has become “payoff”, it is time to stop.I am a high school graduate, PRIOR TO the DOE, with an eighth grade reading level.Now, it is commonly reported that a high school graduate reads at a 6th grade level. WHOHAPPENHERE??!!!
In closing, (as my former pastor would do), I fashioned this retort by a non-ATT cellular device and a stylus for a keyboard not meant for the American wide fingered hand.
Good day.
Many of these have never been tried before. Trump is testing what his Executive powers can do in ways never done before.
Do you remember Republican presidents doing what he has done? If not, then he is breaking new ground. That ground is Ground Zero and the challenges will allow him and other presidents to do the same.
Prior Republicans didn’t test their “limits” this way, because only Democrats can make Executive power edicts that transcend administrations, like 0bama and Biden. Heck, even Clinton ordered missile technology to be shared with China and that wasn’t stopped by Republicans.
Republicans need to test the limits if what their desires with government can provide and the courts are the way to assure it passed muster.
From the Libertarian party site:
“Libertarians believe that if someone is peaceful, they should be welcome to immigrate to the United States.
Libertarians believe that people should be able to travel freely as long as they are peaceful. We welcome immigrants who come seeking a better life. The vast majority of immigrants are very peaceful and highly productive.”
Deport all aliens here in violation of our laws. And I mean our immigration laws, not democrat circumventions of those laws.
This is the biggest issue dispute Americans have with libertarians.
You have to hold him accountable if you playing the long game to 2028
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Any Swamp Scum Libertarians that enabled ‘they spied on my campaign, two hoax impeachments, Wuhan Coup Flu stolen election, targeted lawfare’ of citizen Trump-President Trump-citizen Trump deserves obliteration and draining right along side the rest of the Three Coup Branches of the Banana Republic.
Thank you for the informative response.
Congress has devolved into a do nothing Congress..
RPaul sold out. No conservative has supported Fauci.
Libertarian party supported a communist for Pres.
So, pi$$ off, the lot of you.
Correct President Trump needs to out fire on this Congress to act.
Agreed limits must be tested..
In a sane world that is kick-them-out-of-the-party status. They’re Democrats in disguise: What is the difference? It’s a big club....
Meanwhile, Rand and Massie score 95+% on those JBS cards
So you see it’s an upside down world when people grumble about Rand or Massie. Why on earth are you not calling for Graham, McConnell, Cornyn, Collins, (endless list!!) to be thrown out of the GOP ?
This applies to many, many Freepers. I can’t possibly tag them all,.
The JBS is nothing but a sneaky, deceitful, lying anti-Israel organization. It was founded by a man who not only believed in a "Zionist conspiracy" but believed it had "birthed" the Communist conspiracy. They also habitually praised anti-Semites (Henry Ford, Charles Lindbergh, Westbrook Pegler) but published anti-Semitic literature by Nesta Webster and Romanian Iron Guard sympathizer Prince Michel Sturdza. They also used to promote a book attacking "chrstian zionism" entitled The Rapture Cult, which insisted Israel was run by the "Insiders" but said not a word against Rhodesia and South Africa which (according to JBS) were actually founded by an "Insider."
Only Israel-haters are ever promoted or invited to speak to them. They are basically a front for Sedevacantist and Feeneyite Catholics and for Rushdoonyan "reconstructionist" Protestants.
I can’t say I blame him. It’s beyond retarded to waste money and political energy to wage a primary battle against such an inconsequential character in Congress.
Sadly, they are against age of consent.
Did the baby gurgle "gaga"? That means they want you.
That is all twisted myth and biased lie.
Their stance has always been to stop “giving them free stuff” period. They come here they get NOTHING. They will all go home, stay away, and stop coming. In which case we would not even need to spend any money on a wall or illegal immigration control.
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