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1 posted on 09/30/2025 7:15:27 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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2 posted on 09/30/2025 7:16:00 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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3 posted on 09/30/2025 7:18:23 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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That attack on Ft. Sumter had absolutely nothing at all to do with slavery and everything to do with a federal government that was going broke. The south was very prosperous.


4 posted on 09/30/2025 7:19:10 AM PDT by Racketeer
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The “nihilists” are zombies. The Walking Dead was a training film.


6 posted on 09/30/2025 7:28:28 AM PDT by DeplorablePaul
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our present situation seems to be the exact opposite of 1861

Then the South simply wanted to leave. It wanted nothing from the rest of the country. It had a unified culture, based on its borders, and it wanted to preserve it.

Now the anger arises from a radical group who demands the right to live and thrive off the skimmings of governments and other people’s wealth and effort. There is no clear border, as this degraded culture permeates everywhere. The only border seems to be large urban vs. everywhere else, as “large urban” has enjoyed many decades of skimmings of government and bloated debt born by the nation.


8 posted on 09/30/2025 7:31:11 AM PDT by PGR88
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Neither the Democratic Party nor their Antifa foot-soldiers have a sane and coherent approach to this set of problems.

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Has the democrat ever disavowed the actions of their antifa foot soldiers?


10 posted on 09/30/2025 7:34:33 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (NIO rooftop security at the Charlie Kirk assassination event? Did we learn nothing from Butler, PA?)
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I question tis oft-posited and widely accepted maxim that young people are doomed, have unserviceable college debt, can’t afford houses or cars, etc. I see young people all over the place getting married, buying houses, starting families and enjoying life. The housing construction boom here in North Idaho is just staggering. New subdivisions are being build everywhere and they are quickly sold out. Buyers are young people, not retirees. I meet with lots of companies for various projects and many were founded by young people and they hire lots of even younger people just starting out. Careers are getting launched and go-getters are doing well.

What do others see in their areas? Do you see the young people ennui, woe-is-me, the whole system is stacked against me, I can’t get a job, the boomers stole it all attitude?


11 posted on 09/30/2025 7:37:34 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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Great read!


12 posted on 09/30/2025 7:40:12 AM PDT by quilterdebbie (We will endeavor to persevere!)
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"Don’t fire till you see the whites of their eyes their Che t-shirts!”

;^)

15 posted on 09/30/2025 7:46:49 AM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("...mit Pulver und Blei, Die Gedanken sind frei!")
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When President Buchanan tried to supply the Garrison with the Star of the West he inflamed the situation


16 posted on 09/30/2025 7:50:56 AM PDT by South Dakota (Vance / Trump...2028 )
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This is probably one of the worst Kunstler takes on a social ill I have read. It is not suburbia and the lack of a car leading to nihilistic rebellion because young people have to drive a 30 year old beater past manicure lawns to get to their gender studies course at the local communism indoctrination center, aka public school and college. It is moral emptiness in broken homes run by single mothers (or commie parents if they have both), public schools, and a democrat party that supports and encourages the violence. Throw in some meth and powerful behavior modifying drugs and you get democrat party terror groups like antifa.

It ain’t suburbia.


17 posted on 09/30/2025 7:53:28 AM PDT by Organic Panic ('Was I molested. I think so' - Ashley Biden in response to her father joining her in the shower.)
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Antifa are self-described anarcho-communists, if you believe in something so preposterous you are by default nihilist.


18 posted on 09/30/2025 7:54:07 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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His depiction of American suburbia is ludicrous.


19 posted on 09/30/2025 7:57:47 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution.)
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Bkmk


25 posted on 09/30/2025 8:06:46 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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I don’t care about Fort Sumter, but he absolutely nails it in the rest of the article. Red Badger, don’t let YOUR opinions become facts.


26 posted on 09/30/2025 8:09:27 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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“When the newly-formed Confederacy attacked Fort Sumter in Charleston Bay, April 1861, they ignited the Civil War.”

“they ignited...”

Sloppy writing and incorrect history.

It is widely known that Beauregard ordered the attack on his own hook. Even Wikipedia gets it right:

“Pierre Gustave Toutant-Beauregard was an American military officer known for being the Confederate general who started the American Civil War at the battle of Fort Sumter on April 12, 1861.”


34 posted on 09/30/2025 8:45:20 AM PDT by odawg
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It seems to be lost that on many occasions Lincoln stated that the war was not about the issue of slavery. No one seems to know that.


42 posted on 09/30/2025 9:38:59 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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The war starting s8de typically has to be in a state of crazy to start bloodshed.

No worry. FAFO.

The bloodshed rids the world of a lot of crazy, leaving just the ptsd.

War ends. Suffering continues. Sometimes some good comes of it, though much bad. Sometimes only bad comes of it.

Better to be vigilant and brave. Cowardice leads to war.

Cowards are in control, still.


50 posted on 09/30/2025 10:03:55 AM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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I would more likely describe this current iteration of lawlessness as guerrilla warfare as opposed to "civil" war. The enemy is cowardly, using hit and run tactics all the while keeping their identities hidden.
58 posted on 09/30/2025 11:47:18 AM PDT by LouAvul (1 John 2:22: Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist.)
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First of all, the Civil War wasn’t about tariffs or state’s rights, but that’s another story for another day.

Second, the parallel to today would be more like “Bleeding Kansas” before the war, or banditry and nightriding afterwards, rather than to the Civil War itself — low-level, quasi-insurgency, rather than full-on war.

Third, Kunstler moved to far upstate New York because he didn’t like suburbia. Other people like it. He didn’t. There are also different kinds of suburbs and different kinds of suburbia and what applies to one doesn’t apply to another. That is also another story maybe for another time.


60 posted on 09/30/2025 12:11:42 PM PDT by x
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