Posted on 09/16/2025 8:14:19 AM PDT by simpson96
On Sept. 10, 2025, Charlie Kirk was shot in the neck at Utah Valley University during the first stop of his “American Comeback” tour. I was in my audition seminar class when I absentmindedly checked my phone and audibly gasped as my eyes glanced over the Washington Post notification.
I followed the story into my next class, refreshing my laptop for updates and texting my friends. I was vaguely familiar with Kirk for his controversial right-wing extremist takes, and his murder came as a shock to me and many others, most likely because we tend to view public figures as untouchable.
This was a story I followed for days. I analyzed my classmates’ reactions to it, the media’s coverage of it, social media and politicians’ takes, etc. I wondered why his death and the handling of such (being flown on Air Force 2 and posthumously awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom) was of the highest honors despite him being a podcaster and having held no public office.
As news outlets chronicled his legacy and Kirk’s friends and family emotionally reflected on his life, I was curious to see what truly made this man so great. Some surface-level research and video compilations of his most controversial quotes quickly left me frustrated but not surprised, most specifically his comments about race.
This piece could’ve been “What Charlie Kirk got wrong about Black people,” instead of Black women. The only reason it is not is because I am loosely bound to a word count, so I will instead focus on the demographic that most directly affects me.
For about as long as America has been alive and colonized, Black women have been devalued, degraded and unfairly depreciated. It is a common saying in Black households that Black women must be “twice as good” to be awarded half as much as their white counterparts.
There are two direct quotes that I would like to pick apart. Both were said by Kirk on “The Charlie Kirk Show.”
The first is, “If I’m dealing with somebody in customer service who’s a moronic Black woman, I wonder is she there because of her excellence, or is she there because of affirmative action?” The second is as follows, “If we would have said that Joy Reid and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Ketanji Brown Jackson were affirmative action picks, we would have been called racists. Now they’re coming out and they’re saying it for us … You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person’s slot to go be taken somewhat seriously.”
First, let’s take a quick crash course in affirmative action. Affirmative action is when organizations make an active effort by devoting resources to better the employment and educational opportunities of marginalized groups such as ethnic minorities and women. Historically, white women have been the primary beneficiaries of affirmative action. It is not executed in the form of quotas (banned by the Supreme Court in the late 1970s), it does not discriminate against white men and it certainly does not hire unqualified individuals (which is against federal law).
Additionally, Joy Reid went to Harvard for her undergraduate degree. Michelle Obama went to Princeton and Harvard Law School. Sheila Jackson Lee went to NYU, transferred to Yale, and later attended UVA Law School. Ketanji Brown Jackson attended Harvard University for her undergraduate degree and Harvard Law School. Charlie Kirk attended Harper College for one semester before dropping out. Why was he challenging the intellectual competency of these Black women when they have run educational laps around him?
Kirk saying that these highly educated women do not possess the “brain processing power” to be taken seriously is problematic primarily because it is reminiscent of 19th-century pseudoscientific rhetoric that white people would use to justify the abuse of Black people and their low social status. They alleged that Black people had thicker skin and could thus tolerate more pain, less lung capacity and smaller skulls — attributed to the pseudoscience of phrenology, which asserts that cranium size and shape is indicative of mental ability.
Finally, Kirk’s assertion that these women are “stealing a white person’s slot” is troublesome because it implies that only white people are entitled to prestigious roles like “first lady” or “talk show host” or “Supreme Court justice”. This is white supremacist ideology that should be condemned on all fronts. The idea that white people are the only ones deserving of positions of power is incredibly racist and false, given that they are not the only competent ethnic group and those “slots” in question are fair game for anybody.
Kirk’s harmful rhetoric toward Black women is something that I felt compelled to address given that his words are not only insulting to me, but to my Black female friends, family, classmates and colleagues as well. His racist remarks are inevitably a part of his legacy, and should be consequently painted into the picture of his character.
Joy Reid, Mike Obama and Jackson Brown were accepted into Ivy League schools NOT because of their intellect but specifically because of their race. Those universities have long ago removed acceptance rates based on merit. They are all now about spreading Marxist indoctrination and hating Whitey.
None of those “women” are qualified for their roles in the private sector. Brown has demonstrated herself that she is a total incompetent, a glorious nincompoop who does not belong on the Supreme Court.
Zora Rodgers would hate Charlie Kirk regardless of what he said about those three. But what else would you expect from a democrat.
They’re twisting Charlie Kirk’s words b/c he’s not here to defend himself.
Fortunately, he has powerful friends like JD Vance who will cover for him.
She feels good about herself for 'doing her part' (hello, ignorant White Guilt), to 'fix' that.
Follow the money:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/17/your-money/norte-dame-muslim-philanthropists.html
Cheers!
Yes and no. Context is everything.
Charlie Kirk publicly commented, following the Supreme Court's June 2023 end to affirmative action in college admissions, that certain prominent Black women—Joy Reid, Michelle Obama, Sheila Jackson Lee, and Ketanji Brown Jackson—had said they personally benefitted from affirmative action. He argued that, had he described these women as beneficiaries, he would be denounced as racist; yet, according to him, they themselves made this admission. Kirk went further, claiming that these specific women were unable to achieve success based solely on their own merit or intelligence, and that affirmative action gave them opportunities that would have otherwise gone to more qualified individuals.
Here's one link to the actual comments if it helps:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOcKFt4AWhY/
The legacy media is distorting his comments as if he went out of his way to attack “black women”.
Here are some more links that may help with context as well:
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/06/29/michelle-obama-affirmative-action-00104211
https://x.com/MichelleObama/status/1674430722529169408?lang=en
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rep-sheila-jackson-lee-says-clear-recipient-affirmative-action
I was unable to verify that Ketanji Brown Jackson specifically admitted to benefitting from affirmative action. It's possible he confused that Sotomayor said she benefitted (since she said so as well). But I'll give Kirk the benefit of the doubt. If anyone from the left wanted to correct the record, they could have. Instead, they switched the debate with misleading and outright false claims.
You have to remember that Charlie Kirk and everyone on this forum is automatically racist to the left, and no amount of proof will ever be enough to convince them otherwise.
They could use Charlie Kirk's famous phrase, “Prove me wrong.” But people cannot be proved wrong when they do not believe something based on logic or facts.
> The entire thing starts with the false premise of systematic racism and inherent white supremacy, what utter bilge.
She probably wrote it for a class and got an “A” on it. Or wrote it for the school newspaper web site.
> “Zora Rodgers is a junior studying film, television, and theatre.
She’s going to make some unlucky man an excruciatingly painful ex-wife.
“vaguely familiar with Kirk for his controversial right-wing extremist takes” You are vaguely familiar but certain that he was an extremist. Yet you want us to take anything else you said seriously.
“Why was he challenging the intellectual competency of these Black women when they have run educational laps around him?”
There are plenty of highly educated people who are dumb as rocks. As Forest Gump said “Stupid is as stupid does”.
I was rooting for the Convicts.
I bet she uses “Latinx” when talking about Mexicans.
Is she a furry too?
One of the errors the author makes is when she conflates some difference between having or not having certain academic degrees as representing greater or lessor intellectual ability. In reality, the attainment of academic degrees cannot be consistently conflated with greater intellectual ability; the later can exist without having spent time putting it to the attainment of the former; and the former is a result of often subjective judgement calls of professors, not an empirical intellectual examination, like an IQ test.
Harvard University Press published Swain's first academic book, Black Faces, Black Interests: The Representation of African Americans in Congress in 1993.[9][10][11][12] It received the D.B. Hardeman Prize and the American Political Science Association's Woodrow Wilson Foundation Award.[13] Swain later accused deposed Harvard President Claudine Gay of plagiarizing portions of her book, stating, "Maybe she didn’t know any better, but it would qualify as plagiarism under Harvard’s own rules."[14] In 2024, Swain released A Gay Affair, published by Be the People Books.[15] This book followed Claudine Gay's resignation as President of Harvard on January 2, 2024.Dr. Swain is the real thing, but the former Harvard President Claudine Gay was a DEI hire. Do you see what we are talking about Zora Rodgers?
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