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Rand Paul rips JD Vance's assertion that executing cartel members is the 'best use of our military'
Fox ^ | 9/8/2025 | Nitzberg

Posted on 09/08/2025 2:00:17 PM PDT by Phoenix8

Republican Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky strongly objected after Vice President JD Vance asserted in a Saturday post on X that "Killing cartel members who poison our fellow citizens is the highest and best use of our military."

"JD ‘I don’t give a s[---]’ Vance says killing people he accuses of a crime is the ‘highest and best use of the military.’ Did he ever read To Kill a Mockingbird? Did he ever wonder what might happen if the accused were immediately executed without trial or representation??" Senator Paul wrote.

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To: Phoenix8

(Rand Paul gained my loyalty the day (2017) the psycho leftist neighbor he had nearly killed him. He was mowing and the jerk blindsided him with a full speed sprinting tackle. It punctured a lung and broke 6 ribs if I recall. The commie got a slap on the wrist (30 days in jail..original sentence, more added later).
Well with this one statement Rand Paul has lost every single bit of respect I had for him. I’m just confounded and confused.)

Same here. 👍👍👍


21 posted on 09/08/2025 2:19:16 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: Phoenix8

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Rand+Paul+open+borders&t=h_&ia=web


22 posted on 09/08/2025 2:19:55 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Phoenix8

Rand is ALL talk.
Another Trey Gowdy.
Anyone can talk...even puppets.


23 posted on 09/08/2025 2:22:16 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: Phoenix8
Rand has a point. I wonder how many of the Freepers ripping on him were outraged when Obama started droning people. You either support due process consistently or you support fascism when it is your guy in the White House.

The one mitigating factor here is that I understand that the cartel members were firing on a US helicopter before it was destroyed. In that situation I can see a deadly response as justified. OTOH, creating such a situation if you have a lower-key way to apprehend the target is just another evasion of due process.

24 posted on 09/08/2025 2:24:21 PM PDT by EnderWiggin1970
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To: Phoenix8

Sounds like live fire practice and fun morale booster


25 posted on 09/08/2025 2:24:50 PM PDT by al baby (Whoopie Cushion Goldberg )
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To: Phoenix8

Rand is a prisoner of his ideology. Ideology can give someone a framework, but if it turns into blind adherence, it crowds out critical thinking and good judgment.


26 posted on 09/08/2025 2:25:28 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (If the truth offends, then the offense lies not in the truth—but in the falsehood it exposes.)
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To: Phoenix8

Rand is doing this to garner attention Vance in a debate would absolutely eviscerate the guy. He’s prepping for Libertarian style presidential run in 28 just enough support to get matching funds then he’s gone


27 posted on 09/08/2025 2:27:55 PM PDT by Lod881019
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To: Phoenix8

Didn’t George hw bush invaded Panama for that reason?


28 posted on 09/08/2025 2:28:02 PM PDT by struggle
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To: Phoenix8

Obama pulled this tactic when he was in office iirc and I don’t recall people being enthused about it. jimho, it would have been better to track them and once they entered U.S. waters, obliterate them then.


29 posted on 09/08/2025 2:29:35 PM PDT by LibertyWoman (Turns out, all we needed was a new President...)
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To: All
Someone tell Rand that "To Kill a Mockingbird" is a work of FICTION !!!!!!
30 posted on 09/08/2025 2:31:07 PM PDT by Robe
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To: Phoenix8
Rand Paul continues his fall
31 posted on 09/08/2025 2:31:57 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: Phoenix8

“It’s like he had a mini stroke”

Maybe the chemicals in his perms are seeping into his brain. Looking at, and listening to, him and Massie I want to ask, “Which twin has the Toni?”


32 posted on 09/08/2025 2:32:16 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (It's hard not to celebrate the fall of bad people. - Bongino)
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To: Phoenix8

I’ve had great respect for Paul on many occasions. But his foreign relations and defense views can be very disappointing.

Stopping the massive inflow of dangerous drugs is essential for us. Many of Our major cities have thousands of people with lives destroyed

All
Other measures (including local introduction and trying to help the addicts) have proven ineffective or barely helpful.

Paul needs to rethink


33 posted on 09/08/2025 2:32:49 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians aren't born, they're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: Phoenix8
He's a libertarian and they're all frauds. Anti American in every way and should be banned from FR and holding office in America.

Libertarian Party Platform:

Open borders: throw open the borders completely; only a rare individual (terrorist, disease carrier etc.) can be kept from freedom of movement through “political boundaries”, eliminate the Border Patrol and INS.

Homosexuals: total freedom in the military, gay marriage, adoption, child custody and everything else.

Abortion: zero restrictions or impediments full 9 months.

Pornography: no restraint, no restrictions, available to all.

Drugs; Meth, Heroin, Crack, and anything new that science and marketers can come up with, zero restrictions.

Prostitution: zero restrictions.

Military Strength: minimal capabilities.

34 posted on 09/08/2025 2:33:29 PM PDT by LouAvul (1 John 2:22: Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist.)
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To: Phoenix8

Yes, something got shaken loose in Rand Paul’s head.

I think he has an inflated idea of his role as a senator - he thinks any executive action should first be approved by congress - and maybe that’s true in principle.

But congress has utterly failed - so We the People elected President Trump to go ahead and do some well-needed ass-kicking - with or without congressional approval.

Instead of worrying about whether President Trump is over-stepping his Constitutional authority in enforcing the law, Paul needs to worry about congress utterly failing to do its Constitutional duty.

I’m quite sure President Trump would prefer to defeat the cartels under a congressional declaration of war, if only congress would declare it.

But they won’t - just as they won’t pass a balanced budget - won’t close the border - won’t represent the voters that elected them.

They do the bidding of their K street masters.

Fix that problem Rand Paul - and until you do, let President Trump continue doing what he promised his voters he would do.


35 posted on 09/08/2025 2:37:00 PM PDT by enumerated (81 million votes my ass)
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To: Phoenix8
The path to the largest oil reserves in the world continues......

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We'll think of something to get that oil!

36 posted on 09/08/2025 2:38:19 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Telepathic Intruder wrote: “Rand Paul’s libertarian side is getting the better of him if he’s now going to support illegal alien cartel members.”

The libertarian platform supports almost unlimited immigration.


37 posted on 09/08/2025 2:39:36 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: Phoenix8

Rand should get rid of his jelly roll, for starters.


38 posted on 09/08/2025 2:41:36 PM PDT by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.)
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The US lost about 62,000 people in the eight years of Vietnam war. We lost more than 100,000 people to fentanyl in 2023 alone. The drug cartels are killing us. I’m for the military going after them.


39 posted on 09/08/2025 2:44:15 PM PDT by Kipp
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To: EnderWiggin1970

One big difference you leave out. They were US citizens


40 posted on 09/08/2025 2:45:52 PM PDT by Dartoid
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