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Leave it to Volkswagen to come up with such a stupid idea. BMW tried to do the same thing with heated seats...don't pay them every month and your rear end will be cold.

It's not like they have a reliable product so you're better off buying a Japanese car anyhow.

1 posted on 08/19/2025 9:39:59 AM PDT by packagingguy
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Somebody will hack it and charge $50 a car...............


2 posted on 08/19/2025 9:41:25 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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Heated seats have serious drawbacks for some.

Why not just rent cars instead of selling them? Oh, right, we do that already.


3 posted on 08/19/2025 9:42:21 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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IBM pioneered it with mainframes. Pay the minimum and get an artificially constrained computer. Pay up and get its full capabilities.


4 posted on 08/19/2025 9:44:49 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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It is the alure of ARR (Annual Recurring Revenue) driving this. A predictable stream of income is sometimes more attractive even than profit, at least from an accounting standpoint.


6 posted on 08/19/2025 9:46:15 AM PDT by PUGACHEV
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Exactly, well said. And like how many people need or even notice a difference in an extra 27 horsepower. Like GM offering 3 different V6 engines with a total horsepower range difference of 30 HP. People are gullible.


8 posted on 08/19/2025 9:48:48 AM PDT by pghbjugop
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It's a relatively new madness going around. Rent. Control through EULAs and if someone doesn't continue to rent or violates a “term” then cancel them.

“...for a monthly subscription fee” I exactly what Microsoft Office 365 is doing. Ditto with some other software companies are trying. Long term it will serve to piss off customers.

9 posted on 08/19/2025 9:48:51 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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I suspect car companies which do not hinder the cars performance will do better in the marketplace.


10 posted on 08/19/2025 9:49:15 AM PDT by marktwain
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I actually like it. You can try it out for a cheap monthly price, and if you like it pay the life-time fee of $877. It’d be analogous to trying the powerful 8-cyl gas car cheaply for a month before paying $877 extra for it vs the cheaper 6-cyl.


11 posted on 08/19/2025 9:49:24 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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and they wonder why some people cheer when executives from Blackrock or United Healthcare are shot.


13 posted on 08/19/2025 9:53:08 AM PDT by alternatives?
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The Babylon Bee should do a story on this.

Volkswagen:
Pay a monthly fee or your trunk will no longer open.
Pay a monthly fee or you won’t be able to make right turns.

Come on, Bee. Get on this.
🐝


14 posted on 08/19/2025 9:54:33 AM PDT by Leaning Right (It's morning in America. Again.)
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Good grief!


16 posted on 08/19/2025 9:54:55 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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European style customer service.

The Japanese would never think to do such a thing.


17 posted on 08/19/2025 9:55:12 AM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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the id.3 doesn’t even have an engine does it? I thought they were full electric


18 posted on 08/19/2025 10:00:11 AM PDT by cableguymn (Can't cancel all of us)
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without affecting the car’s range

I have my doubts unless the "official" measurement method never tops out either car's power usage or the lower powered car's milage is artificially reduced. If you use more power, your battery life goes down.

19 posted on 08/19/2025 10:00:35 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (I refuse to call the left "progressive" because I do not see slavery to the government as progress.)
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We are deep into the new economic model. Owning nothing, being happy.

Serfs were not property, but they were tied to the land, which was owned by a lord. The serf had to work the land for the lord because there was no other option.

Slaves were property. They did the work they were told to do, they could be sold to distant places, families could be broken up.

Free people work where they want to, earn their own money, and can purchase “stuff” which is their own property.

Now you can’t really own much of anything. I’m not sure I see the benefit of working and striving. Technofeudalism. It’s no fun being a serf or a wage slave.


20 posted on 08/19/2025 10:02:24 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The list of things I no longer care about is long. And it's getting longer.)
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The service center at most dealerships is the biggest high profit subscription service in history.


21 posted on 08/19/2025 10:04:39 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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This is what I hate about anything software related: you don’t own it, you “license” it. You check a box that says you agree. If people stop agreeing, the practice will end. You have to be willing to say no.


22 posted on 08/19/2025 10:07:49 AM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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Unfortunately there are a whole bunch of stupid people out there who will pay it. Then it will spread and become an industry standard with all makers.

I’ll ride a Mule first...


24 posted on 08/19/2025 10:10:55 AM PDT by Openurmind (AI - An Illusion for Aptitude Intrusion to Alter Intellect. )
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It's not like they have a reliable product so you're better off buying a Japanese car anyhow.

Yep, The German cars have declined significantly in quality, as has their country and their leadership. It will only get worse.

25 posted on 08/19/2025 10:11:29 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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I work at a (small) automotive OEM. I do see another side to this.

The engineering for ‘options’ can be very expensive, all the additional tooling, engineering of two versions, testing & validation, diagnostics, etc. - it can be millions in overhead, above and beyond the cost of the resulting parts that go into a car.

Therefore, it might be cheaper to just make one high-end version, with all options, but enable certain things in software on demand. If you chose not to buy the software enabled features, even though they exist in hardware in your car, you have not paid for all the additional engineering for those features - enabling the OEM to sell the same vehicle at different price points to a larger segment of potential customers. Customers may still choose to purchase features after the sale of the car, if they realize they should have purchased an option to begin with.

It’s not intuitive. You feel like you’ve paid for the feature - but you really haven’t. You got the HW for free(ish) - you actually pay for it when it’s enabled. As a consumer, I don’t like it, but I understand the economic reasoning.

If the engine development costs were extremely high (which they usually are), having different performance options, controlled through software, allows you to spread the cost of development across more customers because of the price spread. If a customer wants more power, they only have to upgrade via a software purchase. It’s about lowering engineering costs, when everyone isn’t paying for all the hardware features in terms of the engineering behind them.


26 posted on 08/19/2025 10:12:07 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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