Posted on 07/31/2025 6:04:03 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
People die in many ways, but in medicine there are only two reasons a person can be declared dead: Either the heart has stopped or the brain has ceased to function, even if the heart is still beating.
A person may serve as an organ donor only after being declared dead. (Until then, transplant surgeons are not allowed even to interact with a dying patient.) This common-sensical rule underpins organ donation in the United States and many other countries.
Most donor organs today are obtained after brain death, defined by most state laws as a condition of permanent unconsciousness with no spontaneous breathing, no response to pain and no primitive reflexes — in other words, devastation of the whole brain. Organs obtained this way are often relatively healthy, because brain-dead patients can continue to circulate blood and oxygen.
Brain death is rare, though. In New York State, with a population of 20 million, there are on average fewer than 500 cases suitable for organ procurement and transplantation each year.
Far more often, people die because their heart has permanently stopped beating, which is known as circulatory death. However, precisely because the blood has stopped circulating, organs from people who die this way are often damaged and unsuited for transplantation.
The need for donor organs is urgent. An estimated 15 people die in this country every day waiting for a transplant. We need to figure out how to obtain more healthy organs from donors while maintaining strict ethical standards.
New technologies can help. But the best solution, we believe, is legal: We need to broaden the definition of death.
Consider how things currently work. In the procedure known as donation after circulatory death, a typical donor is in an irreversible coma from, say,...
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Organs are healthier when harvested from live people. Once the Communists set up the concentration camps, they can do like Red China and start harvesting from live, healthy, people.
Indians were the original Aryans.
WAAAY too dangerous. Don’t want to see any politician going near this topic. Bad enough in other countries. We don’t need ghouls drooling over our significantly ill.
Would you want a white person’s organ in you?
It is appointed once for man to die and then comes judgement. People are so afraid of death, but the older I get (I’m 74), the sweeter Heaven sounds. Don’t get me wrong -— I don’t want to go before my time, but I put my trust in the LORD, and I know He has ascended to Heaven to prepare a place for me. “And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.” John 14:3
Miracle Max’s definition would work. ‘Mostly dead’
MORTICIAN: Bring out your dead!
CUSTOMER: Here’s one — nine pence.
DEAD PERSON: I’m not dead!
MORTICIAN: What?
CUSTOMER: Nothing — here’s your nine pence.
DEAD PERSON: I’m not dead!
MORTICIAN: Here — he says he’s not dead!
CUSTOMER: Yes, he is.
DEAD PERSON: I’m not!
MORTICIAN: He isn’t.
CUSTOMER: Well, he will be soon, he’s very ill.
DEAD PERSON: I’m getting better!
CUSTOMER: No, you’re not — you’ll be stone dead in a moment.
MORTICIAN: Oh, I can’t take him like that — it’s against regulations.
DEAD PERSON: I don’t want to go in the cart!
CUSTOMER: Oh, don’t be such a baby.
MORTICIAN: I can’t take him...
DEAD PERSON: I feel fine!
CUSTOMER: Oh, do us a favor...
MORTICIAN: I can’t.
CUSTOMER: Well, can you hang around a couple of minutes? He won’t
be long.
MORTICIAN: Naaah, I got to go on to Robinson’s — they’ve lost nine
today.
CUSTOMER: Well, when is your next round?
MORTICIAN: Thursday.
DEAD PERSON: I think I’ll go for a walk.
CUSTOMER: You’re not fooling anyone y’know. Look, isn’t there
something you can do?
DEAD PERSON: I feel happy... I feel happy.
[whop]
CUSTOMER: Ah, thanks very much.
MORTICIAN: Not at all. See you on Thursday.
CUSTOMER: Right.
Bring out you dead
I’m not dead
Shut it ya baby you’ll be stone cold dead in a week
I say the new definition is “leftist”.
'This is the type of article you would write if you didn't want anyone to be an organ donor'.
I'd have written:
'This is the type of article you would write if you didn't want anyone to a WILLING organ donor'
Since liberal Democrat progressives are essentially brain-dead, they should all be considered donors. Problem solved!
The wickedness of this idea cannot be overstated.
They’ve redefined what life means. They’ve redefined what men and women are. Now they want to redefine death? They are people with no sense of morality and worship only their intellects.
Murderous fools.
Several years ago, I had the organ donor option removed from my driver’s license. I didn’t want to give them a reason to pull the plug on me. I want to use my organs until the very end.
Now what?? I go to the hospital for a broken ankle and they take my kidneys??
I started my career doing organ transplant and emergency medicine research .
Under no circumstances should you have the organ donor box checked on your drivers license.
In fact, I am of the opinion that a person should have a living will that specifies very strict conditions that must be met before any of your organs can be donated.
One of those conditions is that an unbiased, third party medical expert be retained as your advocate to be consulted (at the hospitals sole expense - trust me , they can afford it) to make sure that you are beyond recovery before any of your organs get harvested.
It's even more inconvenient for the transplant industrial complex that is blocked from harvesting organs worth tens of thousands of dollars.
brain has ceased to function
Socialism causes shortages. Offer the families a few thousand dollars per organ of the hundreds of thousands the hospital systems make on each one. The organ shortage will be gone overnight.
Are there not enough Falun Gong and Uyghurs?
I was thinking NYT journalist.
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