Remember fake-America-first Tucker Carlson Russian patriot useful idiot tour?

Compiled of various sources | 2024

[Words Matter]

Kremlin All But Admits Tucker Carlson Is a Useful Idiot.

A spokesperson for the Russian government clarified that it has rejected requests to interview Vladimir Putin from reputable media outlets.

By Nikki McCann Ramirez. February 7, 2024.

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Tucker Carlson: Moscow 'so much nicer than any city in my country'. Feb 13, 2024 —

Pundit Tucker Carlson called Moscow “nicer” than any city in the United States and praised Russian President Vladimir Putin's governing of the massive world superpower.

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Konstantin Sonin. @k_sonin.

The Moscow Auchan supermarket that Tucker Carlson eulogized is near my Moscow home, so I know this particular mall pretty well. (Last time I was there during the first days of the war, in March 2022.) In my experience, every Walmart in the US has more products and they are of better quality than this Auchan; and I am not talking about Trader Joe's or Whole Foods - in Moscow, such stores would be for very-very rich, top 1%.

Feb 21, 2024.

[cuz1961]

Cuz crazy

seems to be the common response when you guys disagree with my comments

You guys need new smears.

Just saying

[wardaddy]

Bttt

[wafflehouse]

Tuckers problems have nothing to do with Russia

[Danie_2023]

“”If a journalist has to suck up to a foreign leader so the rest of America can hear what he has to say, I don’t care.””

Did you just try to change the narrative there? You first mentioned journalists that “have always played nice to dictators in order to get interviews with them”, but now you’re calling the dictators merely a ‘foreign leader’? And I notice that you didn’t mention one ‘other’ journalist that has “sucked up” to a dictator, to the detriment of America, to get an interview. Why is that? Could it perhaps be because the only journalists that would do that are scumbag leftist ones? Hmmm...

My point should be obvious... that being that only a scumbag leftist, and perhaps even anti-America, journalist would suck up to a dictator while demeaning America in some way. Prove me wrong. Show me one journalist from a pro-America outlet like Newsmax or maybe even Faux Neus that has done the same thing.

Your previous comment:

“”Journalists have always played nice to dictators in order to get interviews with them. I dont really see anything wrong with that.””

[Danie_2023]

“”Since when telling the truth that American cities are shitholes would be an insult? Even Trump says that. Every American who flees off the cities’ downtowns says that. Every conservative in democrat cities says that.
Stop clutching pearls and get back to reality. The reality is you have zero valid argument against Tucker, only your “feelings”.””

Ah, but there is a huge difference... between Americans commenting that their big, leftist-run/ruined cities are s-holes (the effing obvious, IOW) and pointing out that Democrat cities have been trashed....

and going over to an enemy nation and praising their city/cities while bashing American cities, in the process.

If you can’t discern that huge difference, then I “”feel”” for you. And no, that’s not clutching pearls... that’s logic and reality.

[Jonty30]

Yes, I did say that journalists have often made nice to dictators and the ilk to get interviews with them. Not a single journalist that has interviewed a terrible named person, whether world leader or cartel leader or anybody else, has done otherwise.

If the narrative seems changed, it wasn’t intentional on my part. A dictator is a world leader. I don’t see the difference there, whether it is Castro or Putin or Khomeini or anybody else you care to name. It’s how they get interviews.

It’s not hard to find examples of journalists who did that.
Barbara Walters interviewd Fidel Castro
Mike Wallace interviewed Khomeni.
Michael Meyer interviewed Ceausescu.
Dorothy Thompson interviewed Hitler.
Andrew Rice interviewed Idi Amin.
Isobel Yeung interviewed the leader of the Sinolean Cartel.

I could probably list a few dozen examples, if I were to take the time to find a terrible world leader and there would be an interview with them by an American journalist. It’s part of journalism and most of them abided by the conditions set down by these terrible leaders in order to get an interview with them. Sucking up is how you get stories from prominent people.

If you want to hear the terrible world leader, you have to play their game. Virtue signaling is for the liberal, remember that.

[blitz128]

I am sure the capital of NK is quite beautiful as well😎

Moscow and St. Petersburg are indeed quite beautiful, travel outside of those cities and not so much, but you are welcome to your opinion as am I

Have a great day

[Seruzawa]

That the real irony.

[Danie_2023]

“”If the narrative seems changed, it wasn’t intentional on my part. A dictator is a world leader. I don’t see the difference there, whether it is Castro or Putin or Khomeini or anybody else you care to name. It’s how they get interviews.

It’s not hard to find examples of journalists who did that.
Barbara Walters interviewd Fidel Castro
Mike Wallace interviewed Khomeni.
“”

Ok, I guess we’re not communicating here...lol. My comment was re: naming another journalist that has interviewed or “sucked up to” a dictator ...like of an enemy nation... to the detriment of America, like Carlson did in 2024.

And yeah, there is a difference between interviewing the leader of an ally of America... and interviewing the leader of an enemy nation, like Russia. I don’t recall Walters, for instance, sucking up to Castro by praising Havanna or Cuba... while bashing America, as an example. You do see the difference here, right?

I find it highly ironic that so many “patriots” here are defending Carlson for his unpatriotic rhetoric. Especially considering the fawning applause and approval that the rabid leftists have given Carlson since then for his words of praise for Moscow. The leftists really liked what he had to say and in my experience, leftists rarely, if ever, like anything said that is actually true.

Bottom line, there are “nice” cities in America where leftists are not in control and have not trashed the place like they always do. And in those cities... unlike in Moscow... you don’t have to worry about being hauled out of bed in the middle of the night if you’ve pissed off the Putin government, dragged off to a gulag and maybe never heard from again. All the “beautiful architecture” in the world can’t make up for that “aesthetic” difference. Just sayin....

Tucker’s actual comments:

“Pundit Tucker Carlson called Moscow “nicer” than any city in the United States and praised Russian President Vladimir Putin’s governing of the massive world superpower.

“And the most radicalizing thing for me in the eight days I spent in Moscow was not just the leader of the country,” Carlson said during a recent interview at the World Government Summit, calling Putin “capable.”

“What was very shocking, very disturbing was the city of Moscow, where I’d never been … it was so much nicer than any city in my country,” he said, calling the Russian capital “so much cleaner, and prettier aesthetically — its architecture, its food, its service — than any city in the United States.”

Carlson held an exclusive interview with Putin in Russia last week, which the president used to spread propaganda about the ongoing war he is waging on Ukraine and criticize the American government.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4465352-tucker-carlson-moscow-putin/

[nathanbedford]

Trump uses the "stick" on whatever side is misbehaving at the time. This is hardly the stuff of fashioning guiding principles; this is the ad hoc, slapdash, reactive policy that so many have complained of characterizes the Trump administration.

If the ad hoc policymaker gets out of the right side of bed in the morning he rebukes the correct side, but if he gets up wrong…

Relevant to our discussion, it matters not if he gets it right or wrong, we are talking about finding principles to form policy, not hero worship.

Not at all.

Please advise of any "serious conservative liberal, Republican or Democrat, who was advocated sending troops."

Please do not Dodge, we are talking about Ukraine.

But if you must bring history in then I suggest you consider the draft riots of 1864 in New York City, the protests against the entry of the war in 1917, the America First movement of the isolationists against our entry into World War II and the resistance to the draft at that time, the burning of draft cards in the Vietnam era and the riots in the streets, the often violent protests against the Iraq war -our history is replete with resistance to sending troops into foreign wars. The idea was not born with Donald Trump; the concept is hardly unique to him.

We ought to have an attention span for history longer than that of a gnat.

[nathanbedford]

Congratulations for forming your own conclusion, which was the point of my reply.

[miniTAX]

Red herring much?
Tucker talked about Moscow being NICER (which is more than “beautiful”) so your sarcasm about Pyongyang being “beautiful” (which is objectively false) is silly.
And he talked about cities, not “outside of cities”.

Words matter right? Not to Tucker’s bashers, visibly.
Have a nice day too.

[Jonty30]

Every one of them sucks up to world leaders. That’s how they get interviews. Every one of the interviews I listed, you can be sure was not hard-hitting. It’s part of the conditions to not make them look bad in an interview. The moment a leader looks bad, the interview ends and all equipment gets confiscated.

Maybe Tucker was a bit biased, I don’t know. But none of the bad world leaders that I could list were criticized by the reporter in question. It’s part of the agreement they have to do interviews.

All journalists have bashed America.

Moscow is a beautiful city. I don’t know why that is a point of contention with you? Much of America was built with the brutalist architect philosophy. It’s only now that American cities are considering making their cities attractive.

The truth is that Moscow is beautiful, because it kept itself free of international influence, read: third worlders, and its architecture reflects Russian culture.

I won’t say that there are bad areas in Moscow, but undoubtedly that Putin showed Carlson the nice parts of Moscow.

As far as American journalists bashing America goes, they have always done so. You can thank Walter Cronkite for making it impossible to win Vietnam. He explicitly lied to the American people in claiming that America wasn’t winning Vietnam. America, more or less, had won Vietnam on the ground, but he lied to the American people and played his part in causing America to lose it politically.

[blitz128]

I hear that Bakhmut is beautiful this time of year😎

[miniTAX]

“and going over to an enemy nation and praising their city/cities while bashing American cities, in the process.”

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Since when Russia is an “enemy” nation? Since Russia “colluded” to get Trump elected? Since it’s kicked out of the G8?
Oh BTW, Trump just recently Russia should have never have been kicked out of the G8 and has frequent calls with his “enemy” Putin, so you are a crazy commies Trump hater (see, I can play the who-is-the-most-hysterical-virtue-signaler game too).

[miniTAX]

“I hear that Bakhmut is beautiful this time of year”

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I know, you hear a lot of silly things... and believe them.

[Danie_2023]

“”Moscow is a beautiful city. I don’t know why that is a point of contention with you? Much of America was built with the brutalist architect philosophy. It’s only now that American cities are considering making their cities attractive.””

My beef isn’t with Moscow, per se. It’s with the unpatriotic rhetoric by Carlson that was used BY Putin, leader of an enemy nation, as propaganda against America. And being a “beautiful city” doesn’t make up for the lack of real freedom from tyranny among the people there. I’m referring to what happens to you if Putin’s regime doesn’t like or agree with something you’ve said or done. You get “Epsteined”.

I’m amazed that so many here defend this kind of propaganda, when I have seen how adamantly hostile they are even still, decades later, to Jane Fonda for her unpatriotic propaganda and actions. The irony here is... if it were not for the fact that the radical left are ‘all in’ for Ukraine, and therefore against Putin... they would be lauding and applauding Carlson’s rhetoric. It’s kinda funny, in a way that they may agree with Carlson, but don’t dare voice that agreement. All because of Ukraine.

Also, you used Walter Cronkite as a ‘whatabout’ example... but my point is still made. Cronkite was a lying leftist and as such, NOT what I would call an American patriot. Oh sure, he pretended not to be a radical and was pretty convincing, most of the time. But as you pointed out ...Cronkite was no American patriot. And IMHO, neither is Tucker Carlson, who is now bashing Trump for the recent Iran attack. Now why do you suppose that is? (hint: he’s taking Putin’s side on the issue).

BTW, thanks for the discussion, conversation.

[af_vet_1981]

Only Evangelicals believe this and they are a minority.

The elect have always been a minority.

Have you considered why you are anti-Israel ? Are you hiding a false identity on FR ? There was no mass and indiscriminate killing of women and children by the IDF; it is the Jihadists, led by Hamas Philistines; they, like the Nazis were so proud of it they made videos and called parents to brag about it. That you remain silent about that and proffer up lies speaks to the condition of your soul and whatever religion you espouse.

[af_vet_1981]

I think we should extricate ourselves from Israel

The United States does not have bases in Israel. The US maintains a significant military presence in the Middle East, with bases in several countries including Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain, Iraq, and the UAE.

[af_vet_1981]

I don’t think the US has any business removing anyone out of Gaza.

President Trump's plan is voluntary. More than 99% of the Philistinians in Gaza are Muslims. Let them have the freedom to emigrate to other Muslim countries.