Posted on 07/05/2025 5:16:07 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
Mr. President, we know you understand that the primary obstacle to peace in Ukraine is Russia’s aggression.
You said you were “disappointed” in the conversation with Russian dictator Vladimir Putin, and that you “don’t think he’s looking to stop.”
Putin again insisted he was unwilling to commit to a ceasefire until the “root causes” of the conflict were addressed.
For Vlad, the “root cause” is the existence of Ukraine.
He followed your call with the largest drone and missile strike of the war, killing at least one.
So why, Mr. President, is your administration punishing Ukraine?
The Pentagon has halted the anti-missile and drone weapons needed to protect the civilians of Kyiv. You remember the desperation on the face of the Ukrainian reporter you touchingly spoke to in the Netherlands, her fears for her husband and her family.
Why are we threatening to abandon her?
There is a belief, being pushed by twisted ideologues, that helping Ukraine is somehow hurting the United States, and not in our best interest. This couldn’t be further from the truth.
Officials claim we have a weapons shortage, but many of these arms were already allocated — some were already in Poland.
Ukraine is paying for them, partly from seized Russian assets and European grants, a stimulus for our industries to make more.
In fact, our military can use that money — and the intelligence it is gathering from Ukraine’s successful resistance — to make better drones and anti-missile technology.
It builds the foundation of the Golden Dome.
But most importantly, Ukraine’s fate sends a message to the world about America. Russia is not an economic superpower to be unlocked. It is a dying terrorist state. Putin is willing to spend the blood of his people in a last grasp for empire.
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Putin wants to capture and establish large Atlantic ports before Europe develops viable tokamaks and tells Putin where to stick his petroleum.
Israel is not at war with Russia. See the difference? The $$$ from the US is over. Ukraine will need to panhandle in Europe for a while.
EU Countries can spend their treasure re-Arming Yookland.
We have done enough.
“Trump gave him two options - easy and hard.”
Biden and the SC Hawk supplied lots of stuff to Ukraine. It killed tens of thousands of Russians but won’t block Russian artillery shells.
Ukrainians can shoot down wired Russian drones, but probably not before targeting information for Russian artillery is gathered.
Russian artillery and drones combined are being used to blast Ukrainian front lines into oblivion, which is now the primary Russian military goal.
The cyber attacks alone could turn this country into a hellscape.
Zelenski needs to accept that he/we are not going to drive the Russians out of Ukraine and give up some territory where, if I understand it correctly, most people there would just as soon be Russians.
We cannot let Ukraine be overrun by Russia due to lack of weapons.
Basically that is correct except the “we” part. It was a rogue CIA that orchestrated it with a coup in Ukraine about 2013, then an illegal Biden administration that actually promoted the Russian invasion (”well, if he only moves across the border a little”). Then there is one of the most corrupt governments on earth headed by Zelensky.
Add to that European leaders who strangely have been disassembling and destroying their own nations through immigration and tyranical control of their citizens but seek to pose as having pure motives with respect to Ukraine’s well-being.
Good post! And I learned a new word! “inveigled”
The question isn’t whether we should rearm Ukraine, the question is whether we should re-re-re-rearm Ukraine. Fifth time is a charm? Probably not.
Getting involved in this ordeal can only lead to having our service members going over there to fight.
This will not end well for us if we cave in to the world’s opinion.
Look at how many Americans died in Afghanistan and Iraq because we had to be a part of the “nation building” process. I’m sick and tired of this.
Would Putin start WWIII to protect Canada?
Absolutely not.
People voted to get done with this war.
Ukraine lost a long time ago.
We need to re-arm the US instead. Let the UK/EU arm Ukraine.
Yes we can. Who runs Ukraine is not our problem.
Let me start by acknowledging where I agree with you. I too see it as a Democrat war and I too see the injustice that nearly got Trump thrown out of office in 2019. But I do not believe that party animus, no matter how justified even when directed at Democrats, excuses America from honoring its commitments.
In point of fact, commitments were made to Ukraine which we are now blatantly reneging. Some of these commitments were made clandestinely, done by the CIA that encouraged the orange revolution and other commitments were made quite officially, like laws authorizing arms and money to Ukraine. Some of the commitments were grounded in immorality, like the corruption of Joe and Hunter Biden enriching themselves in Ukraine while acting in official capacity. Some of the commitments were made by the President of the United States in the course of his duties, the abrogation of which threatens the entire interdependent alliance arrangement of America that has kept us safe for nearly 3/4 of a century.
Some of the commitments were made by the Congress of the United States including on camera speeches by Congressman and otherwise by Congress unanimously applauding the appearance of Zelinski at the joint session. Some of the commitments were made to Ukraine directly and some were made indirectly to our allies, allies in Europe whom we induced to support Ukraine because we said we would support Ukraine.
I could go on but the point is made, to deny the United States of America committed to support Ukraine in the war is absurd.
Further, that commitment was made in the normal course of the operation of the United States government and it was ratified on many occasions, officially and otherwise, by prominent Republicans acting within scope of their service in Congress or otherwise publicly before the whole nation. It was ratified many times by our official acts of government. As a nation we are not relieved of those commitments simply because the electorate came to its senses and gave the presidency to Donald Trump.
More from the same reply:
I have commented in this forum several times (yes, at great length) about the damage we have inflicted upon ourselves in our vital relationships with our allies around the world who crucially depend on the United States of America to keep its word. Japan is in mortal fear of China and looks to the United States to be a trustworthy ally to defend Western democratic nations in the Pacific rim from a clearly rapacious China. South Korea, the Philippines, Australia and even Vietnam cannot in good conscience trust the lives of their children to a country that insouciantly repudiates its commitment to an ally in time of war simply because it changes presidents. Full Stop!
I cannot tell you how many Germans are beside themselves by my country's betrayal of Ukraine. No need to tell anyone in America about how the Canadians are outraged at America's belligerence. The Japanese are frankly scared. It is not our concern that the Japanese sleep well at night, it is our concern that alliances hold together when that is necessary to contain China.
It may be that Donald Trump has taken a very sober look at America's perilous fiscal state and concluded that we must withdraw into a fortress Western Hemisphere and hunker down from Panama to Greenland because that is all we can afford to manage. It may be that he believes that the conflict with China will depend entirely on our economy for survival so Ukraine, Europe and many other countries are simply baggage we cannot carry into a new cyber/mercantilist age that provides fiscal survival.
I don't think that Donald Trump is unaware or indifferent to the need to maintain alliances that kept us safe for most of my lifetime. I think he is acutely aware of the risk from China and that may be why he feels an urgent need to sacrifice Ukraine to advance a larger conception of a new world order that contains China and converts Russia into a trade partner, if not an ally. It appears that he will sacrifice not just Ukraine but also Europe and run the risk of alienating Japan and our allies in the Pacific, doing whatever he is trying achieve. I cannot read his mind but I know that much of the world is reading his mind and they are not happy with what they see.
I return to the issue, can America repudiate its commitments and still maintain its alliances? It may be that many Trump followers are indifferent or even eager to see America utterly disengaged from the world. We used to call that isolationism, now apparently it has been relabeled as America First, or opposition to Globalism, or repudiation of the Neocon ideology. The people who proudly wore the description, Isolationist, until Pearl Harbor have reappeared in spirit and are rehashing the same two ocean argument in an age of nuclear tipped hypersonic missiles. Two oceans did not perfectly secure us at Pearl Harbor and afterwards and in the modern age of satellites, hypersonic missiles, EAPs, cyber warfare, and God knows what's next, two oceans leave us even less secure today. Isolationism is the path to bondage or death.
Isolationism will fail us because, like Rome, we will ultimately fail from the inside. China will not conquer America by landing their Marines on the beaches at San Diego, China will systematically encircle its tentacles around the world gradually strangling America while it corrupts us from within. Recent events in our universities, or the riots after George Floyd, or the Wall Street riots, and the corruption of every institution by China, should have awakened us to the reality that half of America would rejoice at our destruction. America, isolated and alone, threatened by a dominant China, cringing at the thought of nuclear war and at the mercy domestically of a growing leftist majority will simply succumb. The leftists among us will open the gates and invite the barbarians through. Isolationism is the path to bondage or death.
We have alienated much of the world and forfeited whatever advantages our alliances offer and for no apparent upside. The war in Ukraine has not ended, Russia has not been put into safe mode, Europe is disillusioned and angry, China remains as menacing as ever, our alliances are ruined and the world simply does not trust us. Can all this be rationalized as party politics, or because we got a new president?
Still not the U.S’s war....
Trump thought he was bringing zelensky and putin close to a peace agreement....
then zelensky launches a drone attack against many russian targets, taking out many military aircrafts and other assets...
zelensky didn’t have to do the attack, if he was really interested in peace....
time for the U.S. to throw in the towel on ukraine and the grifter zelensky, because zelensky isn’t really interested in peace.
The United States and NATO assured Russia that Ukraine would never be part of NATO to get a desired commitment from Russsia. That pledge was broken which Putin used to justify his invasion of Ukraine.
I think probably a renewal of that pledge by NATO would go a long way toward ending the war.
Incidently the United States guaranteed Ukraine’s safety if it agreed to relenquish its nuclear missiles.
I don’t think Putin would have invaded if Ukraine still had those missiles.
It is all a pathetic situation with hundreds of thousands of needless deaths.
So, Ukraine could be pressured to give up those two disputed provinces, or we could honor those commitments you referred to and make ready for the end of civilization as we know it.
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