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The Most Important Decision of Trump’s Presidency
American Thinker ^

Posted on 06/21/2025 7:11:23 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET

Isolationists seek to discredit warnings about the great dangers of a nuclear-armed Iran as “warmongers” or “neocons.” Yet history proves the opposite: Isolationism allowed Nazi Germany to arm and vastly expand its war machine, in violation of the Treaty of Versailles.

In reality, isolationists are the most dangerous war-mongers. Their intent to keep the U.S. out of military conflict (short of a direct attack on the U.S. homeland), virtually ensures a catastrophic war.

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To: DIRTYSECRET
It is incredibly disingenuous of the author to point fingers at Iran for anything the country does in its response to Israel's attack on the country.

There's a reason people don't start wars, and it's the same reason you don't start fights with strangers: You have no idea whom you're dealing with, and you've no moral high ground to claim when he beats you senseless. (You've broken the first rule, why should he follow any of them?)

21 posted on 06/21/2025 8:05:18 AM PDT by Captain Walker ("It is infinitely better to have a few good Men, than many indifferent ones." - George Washington)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

If we had been more “isolationist”, we wouldn’t be having all the protests, we wouldn’t have CCP bringing in fugus to kill our crops, Laken and a hundred thousand victims would be alive, there wouldn’t have been 9/11, we might have more America first congresscritters not selling us out and we wouldn’t have had Covid.


22 posted on 06/21/2025 8:05:21 AM PDT by bgill
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To: rrrod
Every time I think Trump is making a mistake I’m proven wrong. When he wiped out Iran’s nuke program the world should thank him and Israel.

He wrote last night on his Truth Social that despite all his efforts to promote peace around the world (he listed all the wars in which he intervened with phone calls and diplomacy), he concluded that they would never award him the Nobel Peace Prize no matter what he does.
23 posted on 06/21/2025 8:11:08 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 ( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

No.


24 posted on 06/21/2025 8:12:46 AM PDT by libertylover (The HBM (Has Been Media) is almost all AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

The DC war culture is like a woman on crack… jonesing for just one more hit on the pipe. “Please baby… I’ll do anything… just one more rock”, as she drops to her knees…


25 posted on 06/21/2025 8:15:06 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2025... RETURN OF THE JEDI….)
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To: Alberta's Child
The process you describe there is exactly what the U.S. and the UK did when they toppled the duly elected government of Iran in 1953.

That’s what ultimately led to the 1979 revolution in Iran.

I don't accept the premise. It is an attribution, not a cause. Yes, the CIA should not have done what they did in the 1950s. But the promoters of the Mullahs found fertile ground thereafter, particularly the way the Shah operated. In that respect you are discounting Russian involvement. Don't.

Giving the people weapons is giving them a choice to exercise their intents. It is NOT taking overt action.

26 posted on 06/21/2025 8:21:54 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: bgill

Yes! That was a classic comment.


27 posted on 06/21/2025 8:22:06 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2025... RETURN OF THE JEDI….)
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To: lasereye

Yeah how come we need boots on the ground? Can’t we just bomb until there is nothing left. We don’t want regime change we will just make sure you never have anything nice. No bridges, oil fields, farms, schools, factories everything. What they going to do hate us more? We will make you hurt bad but you’ll never see us. No more Iranian civilization just rubble and misery


28 posted on 06/21/2025 8:28:46 AM PDT by datricker (Go Trump/Vance!)
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To: lasereye

Yeah how come we need boots on the ground? Can’t we just bomb until there is nothing left. We don’t want regime change we will just make sure you never have anything nice. No bridges, oil fields, farms, schools, factories everything. What they going to do hate us more? We will make you hurt bad but you’ll never see us. No more Iranian civilization just rubble and misery


29 posted on 06/21/2025 8:28:47 AM PDT by datricker (Go Trump/Vance!)
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To: kiryandil

bump


30 posted on 06/21/2025 8:32:23 AM PDT by AAABEST (That time Washington0 DC became a corrupted, existential threat to us all...)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

I actually read the article and it is full of nonsense and bs.

Example: “Removing the Iranian regime does not require boots on the ground.”

That is the author’s opinion, not a fact. Iran lost over 1 million men in the war with Iraq, they had no problem getting/forcing their people to fight.

The assumption that if we drop a few bombs and then the war is over is ridiculous. It will be the beginning of the war, not the end. Other nations may join Iran (Turkey, Pakistan) and we will be hit at home.

Trump is right in resisting joining this way and trying to negotiate a way out of this mess.

Finally what the neocon’s just don’t get is that the American public do not want to get involved in another ME way. They were suckered into the last one, the way way they were suckered into WWI.

Notice in the article he never mentioned what is best for or what they American people want.


31 posted on 06/21/2025 8:32:47 AM PDT by crusher2013
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To: DIRTYSECRET

This won’t be Trump’s most important decision.


32 posted on 06/21/2025 8:38:57 AM PDT by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away!)
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To: DIRTYSECRET
Yet history proves the opposite: Isolationism allowed Nazi Germany to arm...

Blah blah blah spew blah... yammering opinions from a 3rd rate journo at his 3rd rate internet rag.

So sick of the "fight/fund all wars or else" harpies.

Sticking our noses and ill-spent riches into every s**thole is exactly how we got worldwide enemies and unsustainable debt.

33 posted on 06/21/2025 8:41:14 AM PDT by AAABEST (That time Washington0 DC became a corrupted, existential threat to us all...)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Even with Obama afterwards. The beginning of his anointed reign, the Iranian (Tehran) Arab Street full of youngers who wanted freedom from elder suppression, etc. were avidly demonstrating and protesting - HOPING that Obama would join them on the world stage of discontent. However, President (Ayatollah) Ubama completely ignored them. There were heavy prices to pay, none of it included Mr. Hope and Change.


34 posted on 06/21/2025 8:46:02 AM PDT by Gaffer (i)
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To: af_vet_1981

Of course not but if they did offer it to him he should publicly throw it in the trash!


35 posted on 06/21/2025 8:49:52 AM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: Captain Walker
It is incredibly disingenuous of the author to point fingers at Iran for anything the country does in its response to Israel's attack on the country.

I love the Isreael first screechers: "oh look, evil Iran hit a hospital/infrastructure/residential building!!!"

Meanwhile Israel asssassinates their leadership and bombs their nation --- immediately after leveling countless hospitals, wiping out entire resisential areas and killing thousands of men, women and children in Gaza. ALL of it funded by good ol' USA.

Whine me a fkn river.

36 posted on 06/21/2025 8:53:52 AM PDT by AAABEST (That time Washington0 DC became a corrupted, existential threat to us all...)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

The reason Hitler became so dangerous was that the neighboring countries, particularly the UK, did not match his military buildup. France built the Maginot line but otherwise were incapable of taking on the German army.

But there was never a realistic option to remove Hitler from power prior to when he started invading other nations that I’m aware of.


37 posted on 06/21/2025 8:58:08 AM PDT by lasereye
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To: DIRTYSECRET

If Bush and Schwartzenegger had found Saddam’s WMD they would have been considered heroes. There was widespread consensus at the time that the WMD existed and it was appropriate to neutralize it based on the risk factor. The mistake was to then think that we could invest US lives to democratize people that were not culturally ready for it.

Isolationism is not an option in a world with ICBMs and nuclear bombs. The evidence for Iran’s nuclear weapons program and solid and the risk of doing nothing is greater than neutralizing it now. What we don’t want to repeat is the exercise in nation building. We can offer to facillitate a peaceful transition, but we can’t change a culture to a Western democracy.


38 posted on 06/21/2025 9:05:59 AM PDT by Dave Wright
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To: AAABEST
I love the Isreael first screechers: "oh look, evil Iran hit a hospital/infrastructure/residential building!!!"

We certainly deserve better propaganda than what they've been feeding us, which I find almost insulting.

39 posted on 06/21/2025 9:09:16 AM PDT by Captain Walker ("It is infinitely better to have a few good Men, than many indifferent ones." - George Washington)
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To: af_vet_1981

Well I’m glad his main concern is our military and the American people and not himself.


40 posted on 06/21/2025 9:18:41 AM PDT by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God. ROLL TIDE!!)
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