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I still think the military should have kept the .45:

9 Vs 45 | 1911 Fanatics – Custom Builds, Tactical Mods & Collector  Discussions
1 posted on 05/27/2025 12:59:01 PM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?
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Other than the problems with the 320, Sig makes some great guns.


2 posted on 05/27/2025 1:01:53 PM PDT by Fido969
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The US Army broke out it’s stored Colt single action .45 Long Colts when 126 years ago it was found the .38 Colt would not stop a doped up moslem Juramentado in the Philippines.
Only problem was the Army had started using, for a short time, the Schofield revolver in .45 short and was still issuing the “short .45” to the soldiers now with .45 colt revolvers.
It still put down the Juramentados.
That is why the army went to the .45 ACP in 1911.


3 posted on 05/27/2025 1:12:14 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( )
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The test was conducted between the Beretta 92F and the Sig Sauer P226. Not surprisingly, the Sig won the test......

Beretta dropped its bid by 18 percent. Beretta was awarded the contract, and the M-9 pistol was chosen.

Ironically Sig did the same thing to Glock when the Army selected the P320 over the Glock 19X for the M17 contract. Glock beat the Sig, but the Sig was lower cost.

5 posted on 05/27/2025 1:16:02 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary?)
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P226 initially lost the military's MHS competition to the Beretta

James Bond loved his Beretta. But alas, MI-6's armorer thought it was a "ladies' handgun." So M forced Bond to switch to a Walter PPK.

6 posted on 05/27/2025 1:18:53 PM PDT by Angelino97
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Don’t they use the Glock, like a lot of
Special ops do?


9 posted on 05/27/2025 1:25:32 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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The P226 is balanced for firing. Like the barrel doesn’t move up a bit using regulation ammo. Makes putting multiple rounds into the bullseye at 25M a breeze. Easy to qualify as Expert - Pistol.

Expert Pistol Looks good on the Class A uniform and helps with promotion.

Shhhhh... I was Expert even with M203 and hand grenade. Had to remove them after a year of course.

The 203 was fun at Graff and WildChicken using the larger HE rounds.


11 posted on 05/27/2025 1:31:42 PM PDT by Justa (Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people....)
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I loved mine TOO until the frame thinned out between the rails (where the slide meets the frame)to the point the TOPS of the rails were about to break off.

I’d owned that pistol since a tour of duty in Germany in the early 1980’s.

LONG conversation with SIGARMS gunsmiths and “lifetime warranty” people went like this:

You put HOW many rounds through that gun?

Maybe one to two thousand a year.

For 30 years? That’s WAY beyond “lifetime” use. The best we can do is give you dealer’s cost on a new one.

Well I still own my grandfather’s 1911 made in 1914 and I have put at LEAST 5000 rounds through it myself and it’s still as tight as a new gun.

Silence.

So I bought a new one and sold the old parts for about half the price.

Still a SIG fan; they and 1911’s work for me ergonomically. Glocks never do, FWIW.


14 posted on 05/27/2025 1:40:30 PM PDT by normbal (normbal. Non-native Tennessean.)
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CZ-P-01: lighter, smaller, greater mag capacity, more accurate/reliable, cheaper, very attractive to ammo
(chuckling in Czech)


15 posted on 05/27/2025 1:41:38 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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The P228 (aka M11) is a compact version of the P226 used by the military and other government agencies.


17 posted on 05/27/2025 1:44:32 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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My EDC CCW for the last 12 years has been my Beretta 92F simply because it’s the straightest gun I shoot.
Always wanted a 226.

As far as weight and bulk, how do they compare with regards to IWB carrying?
I wear suspenders to help holding up the 92F in a Black Rhino holster. Works great.

Could anyone who’s carried the 226 IWB chime in, please?


19 posted on 05/27/2025 1:48:58 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Democrats should have been barred from elections since The Battle Of Athens.)
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Lots of nice, if overpriced, suppressors on the sig site. Are these things legal yet?


20 posted on 05/27/2025 1:56:58 PM PDT by montag813
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It’s not ,1911 any more. Modern 9mm ammo is quite effective. Stay with the 7 round mags if you like but 9mm will do the trick.


22 posted on 05/27/2025 2:37:41 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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I own two Sig’s due to their size. I don’t trust either yet fully. Big problem is their magazines. I do trust my H+K tho, straight out of the box.


23 posted on 05/27/2025 2:52:22 PM PDT by 03A3 (If we can defund the police, we sure as hell can defund the FBI)
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What does a P226 cost?
25 posted on 05/27/2025 4:10:49 PM PDT by MosesKnows
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From the article: Big Army wanted a weapon that would fit shooters with smaller hands, so it switched to the 9mm caliber used by our NATO allies.

This is a fictional definition. SEALs, Special Ops, and the rest can choose their handgun and caliber.

Big government went with the 9mm to use on civilians.

27 posted on 05/27/2025 8:00:39 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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I have a 226 Legion. Fantastic pistol.

I love it.

L


30 posted on 05/28/2025 7:57:18 AM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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I would love to have a SIG 226, but too much $$$. There are some nice clones out there, though.

CC


34 posted on 05/29/2025 11:50:12 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (Pedisequus parasiticus es popularium!)
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