Pete Rose, 'Shoeless' Joe Jackson among players reinstated by MLB

ESPN ^ | 5/13/2025 | Don Van Natta Jr.

[kawhill]

I wonder what Charlie Hustle feels about the pitch clock?

[ripnbang]

I think you are correct.

[ripnbang]

I think you are correct. https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4301256/posts

[DesertRhino]

He helped throw the world series for money. He even admitted it.

[DesertRhino]

He bet on his team to win. MLB never produced any evidence to the contrary.

[roving]

It figures they would wait until he’s dead to do this.

[BigB60]

Read the Dowd Report. It’s pretty damning to Rose’s case.

[bort]

F this prick and the baseball commissioners before him. Pete Rose did not affect the outcome of one baseball game. He never once bet against his own team, which is the main purpose of the rule against gambling. Meanwhile, cheaters like Barry Bonds, Mark McGwire, Sammy Sosa, etc. have always been eligible for the HOF.

[stylin19a]

"Obviously, a person no longer with us cannot represent a threat to the integrity of the game," Manfred wrote in a letter to attorney Jeffrey M. Lenkov, who petitioned for Rose's removal from the list Jan. 8. "Moreover, it is hard to conceive of a penalty that has more deterrent effect than one that lasts a lifetime with no reprieve.

Never mind that they still have to be voted in...
so, how do they now get elected to the HOF? via the Era Committee ?
or does the limit reset and the Sports Writers vote for 5 years?

Then what about the steroid guys who die ?

[Dr. Sivana]

He helped throw the world series for money.

He throws a World Series by batting .375? I never heard the quotation from him, but if it weren't a public arena, I would be skeptical. Even in one, I don't know what pressures were borne on him.

[stylin19a]

Sorry...I suppose I should have read the article...cripes.

Players must be on at least 12 of the 16 ballots cast by the Classic Baseball Era Committee to be elected to the Hall of Fame.

[discostu]

He wouldn’t have to throw a game for the gambling to effect the results though. Just having a different strategy in the game to make prop bets, or cover the line. Plus of course it was all illegal gambling, so who knows what happens when he gets in debt to those people. And of course he’s in the only sport to have already had a gambling scandal. And then he never accepted that what he did damaged the game, or himself. All the way to his final memoir he still was saying it wasn’t a big deal and his punishment was excessive.

[discostu]

Actually none of those guys are eligible anymore. The baseball hall has an eligibility window thing. Once you get to the second layer of votes you’ve got 10 years, if you don’t get voted in on any of those you are out of consideration. Now the Veterans Committee CAN put players in post that window. But the Veterans Committee doesn’t vote that often, and doesn’t tend to override on players that failed 10 times.

Also note Rose actually came up for vote a couple of times, failed miserably which is part of why the HOF declared they would honor the ban and remove him from consideration. To spare him the embarrassment of failing the vote 10 times. And this move only makes him ELIGIBLE, he still might fail the vote.

[Karl Spooner]

"In 1921, a Chicago jury acquitted Jackson and his seven teammates of wrongdoing. Nevertheless, Kenesaw Mountain Landis, the newly appointed Commissioner of Baseball, imposed a lifetime ban on all eight players. "Regardless of the verdict of juries," Landis declared, " -wiki

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[BigEdLB]

OJ should be removed from the Football HOF