Posted on 05/09/2025 5:00:58 AM PDT by Phoenix8
Hayden's firing comes as President Trump has been purging federal officials deemed to have gone against his agenda
Democratic leaders erupted late Thursday after it was reported that President Trump had abruptly fired Librarian of Congress Carla Hayden.
Hayden was notified of her firing in an email late Thursday from the White House's Presidential Personnel Office, according to an email seen by The Associated Press.
"Carla," the email reportedly began. "On behalf of President Donald J. Trump, I am writing to inform you that your position as the Librarian of Congress is terminated effective immediately. Thank you for your service."
Nominated by former President Barack Obama and confirmed by the Senate in 2016, Hayden, whose term was set to expire next year, was the first woman and the first African American in the role. Advocates praised her tenure for helping to modernize the Library and make it more accessible with initiatives in rural communities and online.
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Thank you.
We are still talking at cross purposes here. Your opinion of the lady is irrelevant. My opinion is irrelevant. The only person whose opinion is relevant is Donald Trump, and he hasn’t stated a reason for the firing. So he has left that a blank.
The (potentially) important thing here is that that the PUBLIC doesn’t have the slightest idea who she is, nor why she was, and should have been, fired.
The democrats will (and already are) rushing in to fill in the blank. They will charge that she was fired because she was black and female, that Trump is racist and misogynist, and that he is dog-whistling to the white supremacists.
That’s not true, but in the absence of any stated reason, the lie becomes the only story on offer. Why give the dems that opening? Yes, this is a war. We shouldn’t be passing ammo to the enemy.
Trump just fired the top person in a major cultural institution. Someone in Presidential Personnel could have written a one or two sentence statement about the need for a change of direction to reorient the LOC away from the DEI agenda. Which is true. Another poster reported that the lady’s predecessor was fired and she was appointed by Obama to commit the LOC to his new agenda. That sounds right to me. Assuming that’s the case, it is perfectly appropriate to fire her. Personnel are policy, and if she was an Obama political hire, Trump should fire her.
You and I understand that. But why let the enemy define the terms for the first round of the controversy, if this has any legs at all? (It might not; this might be forgotten by this evening.) By failing to give a reason, we let the enemy define the reason.
Most of the public made up their minds about Trump, one way or the other, a long time ago. But most is not everyone. It’s always best to give a reason. It doesn’t have to be a long one. A sentence or two would do it. It would have been even better to have a replacement lined up, and announce that the change is being made because Trump has confidence in X to be the change agent the LOC needs to do Y.
The lie becomes the narrative if no one states the truth.
President Trump is a lame duck.
That is a wonderful luxury.
He does not need to explain himself to anyone.
The librarian was owed nothing.
The mass media is owed nothing.
Our enemies are owed nothing.
Actions speak so much louder than words.
I owned a hotel, so I've fired many people.
I was owed millions and was fired and had a five year law suit against the prick that fired me {I won, according to the judge and my lawyers}, so in answer to your questions, yes, yes, and yes.
When you are involved in a law suit, the only "winners" are the lawyers, and those bastards don't care about right or wrong, as long as they get paid.
Willy Shakespeare was right... KILL ALL THE LAWYERS.
You might better about yourself if you coddle someone that you fire, but they don't.
So tell me, Tim, what is the "right way" ?
LOL well, you’ll get no argument from me regarding lawyers. I’ve learned to despise all of them.... unless, I actually NEED one. I always want to love my own lawyer.
Sphinx laid out the preferred way of getting the task done. It’s not THAT hard to do. This situation is a bit more complicated than firing a room cleaner that doesn’t show up for work. There’s politics involved.
This case will almost surely go to the courts.... it probably already has. But more importantly, it will be fodder for the court of public opinion. Us die-hard MAGA types may not give a crap how this lady was treated, but a LOT of voters will.... especially women.
There’s just no reason to create yet another ‘Circus of Mean’ to feed the media echo chamber for another month.
Trump may not have to face election again, but Republicans will... in 2026. And it already ain’t looking great for them. If they don’t codify more of the DOGE findings, it could be an epic wipeout. And then, you can forget about Trump getting anything else done.
Correct.
FR has become too much of an echo chamber regarding Trump. A lot of freepers are all in on the inerrancy and infallibility of Trump, and anyone who does not follow along is the enemy.
But this is not about what you or I, or any freeper, thinks. This is what a Republican candidate running for Congress in a swing district can defend in a town meeting when members of the teachers union — the biggest political force in many suburban and rural districts — roll in with their “he fired the first black female head of the LOC” rants.
Trump can do no wrong is not a winning argument to anyone but the hardest of the hard core cult of personality types.
Give reasons, for Pete’s sake. Give the people on your side something to fight back with. Define the story on your own terms before the other side defines it in theirs.
And a little basic courtesy goes a long way. In this case, we’re talking about the head of an iconic cultural institution. Her appointment was hailed as a symbolic breaking of barriers when it happened, and while freepers (including me) don’t like that kind of DEI fetishism, it is noticed by a lot of people and is an easy talking point for the other side. Trump could have asked her to come over to the White House for a short meeting. Show her every courtesy. If Trump can’t find the decency to do that, let JD Vance or his Chief of Staff take the meeting.
I'm surprised they never thought about it while he was running for president again.
Indeed. Trump has stated, many times, that he wants to "bring the country back together". And he's doing many things that show he's really trying to do that. Things like taking interviews with EVERYONE... keeping a lighter demeanor, using humor and wit.
He's still doing tough things, but... trying to keep a softer look. This action negates all of that.
That’s pretty much the policy of nearly every community library.
There is only so much shelf space. If a book isn’t checked out in more than X amount of time, they are sold off at the next friends of the libraries book sale, and the space is used for newer books.
There are I am sure some books that are exempted from this general policy, but that’s pretty regular.
” but there is a right way and a wrong way to fire someone. And that goes double for a high profile firing, as this will be.”
Nothing new. The Democrats have doing this for decades. Why should they get any considerations? I guess you fogot Billy Dale and the White House travel office.
I have hired many lawyers over my life, civil lawyers, criminal lawyers even lawyers that knew who would take a bribe {not that I would ever admit to breaking that law}.
Even the ones that "won" civil cases and I got some of my own money, I hated.
The criminal lawyers that kept me out {or got me out} of jail I had more respect for because they never pretended to care about my innocence or guilt, they were only in it for the money.
Whether on a retainer being paid by the milli-second, or on a percentage basis, I hated all of them.
I still have a very good lawyer that I almost don't hate very much {he's been a social friend for several decades} but what vampires those bastards are, and I can never "love my lawyer".
I’ve only paid for one, with my own money. Hired several with company money.
My guy won a week long DWI trial for me in Houston in 1983. It was a week that would have made a terrific TV show. I still LOVE that guy. He kept my life from going way off the rails from the very start.
Oh. Btw, I was truly not guilty. HPD was doing a federal-paid for DWI task force sweep. They arrested 80 people that night. I blew a 0.11 on their breathalyzer downtown, after drinking a total of three beers over a 6 hour period. The guy who blew the machine before me blew a 0.45. Which would make him dead. What I hate ? Houston cops and judges from the 1980’s.
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