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When Did Rock & Roll Die? A Statistical Analysis
StatSignificant ^ | June 26, 2024 | Daniel Parris

Posted on 05/04/2025 7:01:31 PM PDT by DoodleBob

… By its peak in 1983, rock music dominated radio play and accounted for over 60% of the Billboard Top 100.

… In many ways, the rise of pop, rap, and hip-hop can be seen as a market correction to mainstream rock's lack of cultural innovation, aesthetic appeal, and musical experimentation.

In the years leading up to the stylistic shifts of the 1980s, there was a significant disconnect between critical acclaim and consumer music preferences. However, when rock began its descent from the mainstream in the mid-1980s, the association between critic and consumer music preference rebounded and stayed aligned for the next 30 years.

Researchers attribute the critical-commercial disconnect of the late 1970s and early 1980s to widespread "rockism," an era of rock hubris that assumed perpetual relevance and dismissed other genres. During this period, critics maligned the stale output of hair metal bands and the shallow theatrics of acts like Def Leppard, Twisted Sister, and Kiss. The rise of pop, hip-hop, and rap realigned critical and commercial preferences, infusing mainstream music with new-fangled stylings and technical innovation.

The grunge movement of the 1990s, characterized by its low-fi production and anti-capitalist sentiments, is often seen as rock's last gasp at mainstream relevance. Yet there was an inherent contradiction to grunge's ascension. Artists like Nirvana's Kurt Cobain and Pearl Jam's Eddie Vedder struggled with their newfound success, which directly conflicted with their rejection of commercialism and rock stardom. The grunge movement effectively ended with Kurt Cobain's 1994 suicide, marking the decline of this ascendent subgenre and rock's best chance at a mainstream comeback.

(Excerpt) Read more at statsignificant.com ...


TOPICS: History; Music/Entertainment; Society
KEYWORDS: fakenews; ganstarap; ihearthiphop; music; rock; whenthebeatlescame
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To: DoodleBob

The Law Of Diminishing Returns set in, at some point all the good rock songs were already made.


61 posted on 05/04/2025 8:11:05 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Round Earther

David Lee Roth has rejoined the band looking more like Barry Manilow than himself.

But in all seriousness something happened in the 90s. We had bands like Blur and Nirvana then nothing.

Now all we hear is foul mouthed rap and smell skunk weed everywhere.


62 posted on 05/04/2025 8:11:23 PM PDT by packagingguy
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To: Paul R.

I got an FM stereo adapter for the 8-track tape player in my 1962 four door Impala in 1970. Among the first songs I heard on KSHE was “John Barleycorn Must Die” by I don’t know who and “Casey Jones” by The Grateful Dead.

It felt like I had made contact with a strange, exciting new world.


63 posted on 05/04/2025 8:11:39 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Democrats are the Party of anger, hate and violence.)
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To: T.B. Yoits

“No chicks were throwing off their clothes in the back seat while listening to ZZ Top.”

You didn’t know the right chicks.

L


64 posted on 05/04/2025 8:11:53 PM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: dragnet2

It’s like Classical Music. People still listen to it, but they listen to the masters, not the new stuff.


65 posted on 05/04/2025 8:12:08 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: FLT-bird
IMO, the record industry decided to push (c)rap and all but cut off Rock from airplay. They did this despite MASSIVE consumer demand for Rock. Just check your radio dial. You will see all kinds of classic rock stations that play things from the 60s-90s. OK. Where’s the new stuff? They refuse to play it. Don’t tell me there are no rock bands. Don’t tell me there is no market demand - what with all those classic rock stations. So where is it?

The industry doesn't look at music as the product, they look at the listeners as the product to sell to advertisers. Just like television, they're highly incentivized to produce garbage for the lowest price possible because no one goes to McDonald's for a steak.

You can find interviews online where bands describe launching albums overseas that executives wouldn't release in the United States because it would pull listeners away from the cheap, crappy music the executives were pushing.

66 posted on 05/04/2025 8:13:00 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: FatherofFive

From my interactions with today’s college students, 80s Alternative is big.


67 posted on 05/04/2025 8:13:21 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Lurker

No, those ZZ Top chicks were on the back of their man’s motorcycle - that is, when he wasn’t in prison.


68 posted on 05/04/2025 8:14:49 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: DoodleBob

Knew it was over when mtv introduced “yo, mtv raps”. The country has been downhill since.


69 posted on 05/04/2025 8:15:31 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: packagingguy

And now young people worship these EDM DJs, that press a bunch of buttons, and people think that’s music.


70 posted on 05/04/2025 8:15:34 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: T.B. Yoits

Andy Partridge said it best...

Funk Pop A Roll - XTC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnvO6lrZSxo


71 posted on 05/04/2025 8:17:35 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: DoodleBob
Rock died when its themes of dating and love, heartache and loss, work and unemployment, self-awareness and self-improvement, and foregiveness and redemption, no longer resonated with the current generation and the parents who raised them.

-PJ

72 posted on 05/04/2025 8:21:21 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Aerosmith Toys in the Attic

Fleetwood Mac - Fleetwood Mac

Deep Purple - Machine Head


73 posted on 05/04/2025 8:21:38 PM PDT by Tymesup
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To: dfwgator

That’s been around in one form or another for 50+ years. Kraftwork etc.


74 posted on 05/04/2025 8:22:50 PM PDT by Fuzz
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To: dfwgator

“And now young people worship these EDM DJs, that press a bunch of buttons, and people think that’s music.”

Yeah, and the guys making EDM don’t have to deal with bandmates—they skip the creative clashes, dodge the business fights, and nobody’s bassist is going to OD. The drummer’s not sleeping with your girlfriend, and there’s no cross-country tour in a beat-up Dodge van that reeks of piss, vomit, stale fast food, and five guys’ worth of sweat.


75 posted on 05/04/2025 8:24:47 PM PDT by Round Earther
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Good choice, but not the best for me.

My choice - Allman Brothers Live at the Fillmore.


76 posted on 05/04/2025 8:25:31 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: DoodleBob
In the early 80's with New Wave and the rise of the synthesizer keyboard which took over for the guitar.

After that bands didn't need guitars.

With the advent of Rap, all you needed was a sound board and a beat machine.

77 posted on 05/04/2025 8:27:43 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: dfwgator

I never tire of heating JS Bach Brandenburg Concertos, especially number 5.


78 posted on 05/04/2025 8:28:53 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: DoodleBob

Is Keith Richard’s still alive?


79 posted on 05/04/2025 8:33:12 PM PDT by Huskrrrr (Alinsky, you magnificent Bastard, I read your book!)
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To: Round Earther
The economic structure of today’s music industry, coupled with the rapid pace of technological change, leaves little room for a genuine resurgence of rock music.

Stadiums, arenas, widespread radio play, and music videos was a later aberration of Rock and Roll. Rock and Roll was played in high schools, beer halls, clubs like the Cavern Club or CBGB (Country Blue Grass, Blues), San Francisco parks.







80 posted on 05/04/2025 8:33:22 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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