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Military Starship: How SpaceX Is About to Make America Globally Dominant
https://www.rodmartin.org/ ^ | Mar 03, 2025 | Rod D. Martin

Posted on 03/04/2025 12:52:21 PM PST by Jonty30

While Elon Musk focuses on Mars, the Pentagon sees his new Starship program as the key to literal global domination. And if “amateurs talk about strategy, but experts think about logistics”, SpaceX has created exactly what’s needed.

How is Starship Different? Starship is unlike any rocket before. It’s 100% reusable. It lifts 100 tons, and that number will grow to 200 tons at least (the Saturn V Moon rocket, most powerful in history until now, could lift 130 tons). Starship can also refuel in orbit, so it can send that whole enormous cargo (which might well be several hundred people) anywhere in the Solar System and return whole. The Saturn V could only get a fraction of its payload to the Moon, returning only a tiny capsule.

The difference is staggering even before you consider this. Unlike airplanes, NASA, Boeing, China, Russia, Europe, everyone throws away every rocket they launch. What would it cost if you treated airplanes the same way? If you built a new one every time you flew, on average (based on list price for a new 737), that would increase the cost of each and every plane ticket by roughly $493,650.79. Each way.


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To: Jonty30

Does the weight include the rocket and fuel?

Or just payload?


21 posted on 03/04/2025 2:08:17 PM PST by TheThirdRuffian (Orange is the new brown)
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To: Jonty30

Tha is for the great article.


22 posted on 03/04/2025 2:09:35 PM PST by kaintucky
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To: Jonty30

Send this to that bitch who asked what is Elon doing here.


23 posted on 03/04/2025 2:15:32 PM PST by calljack (Stealing the 2020 Election will go down in history as the worst political miscalculation of all time)
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To: Jonty30
How about delivery of ten rocket loads of Thors Hammers to a battlefield site.
Thors Hammer is a spent uranium rod about 3 ft long accelerated to thousands of mph and destroys the enemy with kinetic energy upon impact.
24 posted on 03/04/2025 2:17:20 PM PST by The Louiswu (USA FIRST...USA FOREVER)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

According to this article payload to Starship, which is Spacex biggest rocket, the payload is 100-150 tons. Even if, to make a return trip from the ground, that still means delivery of a good 75 tons or so.

He can probably go bigger, with the only limitation being physics.

https://www.spacex.com/vehicles/starship/


25 posted on 03/04/2025 2:18:21 PM PST by Jonty30 (Groundhogs don't falsify their predictions for grant money, whereas climate scientists do. )
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To: Jonty30

Since a single Starship in its maturity is expected to be turned around ans relaunched in a matter of hours, you don’t need ones even bigger. Also cargo size is limited to what can fit inside the faring (nose cone).


26 posted on 03/04/2025 2:19:57 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: The Louiswu

I was thinking of the rods from God when you brought it up.

No limit to what can be done.

Each rod from God can yield up to 10 tons of TNT, but even if it loses 20%, due to physics, each rod might do 8tons of TNT and there could be hundreds of rods dropping at once.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Physics/comments/3plrpp/what_would_the_explosive_yield_of_a_rod_from_god/


27 posted on 03/04/2025 2:21:04 PM PST by Jonty30 (Groundhogs don't falsify their predictions for grant money, whereas climate scientists do. )
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To: Jonty30

On track, they hope, to 25 launches per year.


28 posted on 03/04/2025 2:21:20 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: SaxxonWoods

How long will it take the other powers to catch up?


China is the only one with several tests of reusable rockets - all have blown up so far. Russia is too broke to even consider it. India, Japan and Europe all have their own problems and are not in the running.


29 posted on 03/04/2025 2:23:50 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Jonty30

When do they plan to re-lauch from yesterday’s scrub?


30 posted on 03/04/2025 2:23:58 PM PST by Fledermaus (I'm getting tired of the contrarians on FR.)
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To: Fledermaus

It says here that SpaceX can turn a rocket around in about 9 days.

https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-falcon-9-new-booster-turnaround-record-21-days/


31 posted on 03/04/2025 2:25:48 PM PST by Jonty30 (Groundhogs don't falsify their predictions for grant money, whereas climate scientists do. )
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To: PIF

Which can be increased, as the technology improves to decrease turnaround time.


32 posted on 03/04/2025 2:26:32 PM PST by Jonty30 (Groundhogs don't falsify their predictions for grant money, whereas climate scientists do. )
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To: buwaya

Starship v3 will loft 200 US tons into LEO. With turn around time at less than 2 hours per launch tower - you do the math.


33 posted on 03/04/2025 2:26:33 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

I’m looking at the Falcon 9 tempo of 2x a week.


34 posted on 03/04/2025 2:30:12 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Jonty30

Each one of your rods will need some form of guidance and some form of propulsion to course correct.

Too expensive, never happen.


35 posted on 03/04/2025 2:30:33 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Fledermaus

When do they plan to re-lauch from yesterday’s scrub?

They have 3 day window, assuming they can get the fuel pump problem fixed in time.


36 posted on 03/04/2025 2:31:53 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: isthisnickcool

That link led to this one, exactly on point for the article, they are already contracted
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket_Cargo


37 posted on 03/04/2025 2:33:04 PM PST by takebackaustin
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To: buwaya

I’m looking at the Falcon 9 tempo of 2x a week.

look at Starship tempo in hours


38 posted on 03/04/2025 2:33:09 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: HYPOCRACY

And to think, Musk was a liberal, (waited in line for 6 hours to shake Obama’s hand), and they’re turned him into a freedom fighter and populist by trans-ing his child.

Half of Trump’s cabinet is former Democrats, including Trump himself.


39 posted on 03/04/2025 2:41:24 PM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: PIF

Each titanium that is recovered can be recast for another run.

It’s on par with nukes.

https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2018/11/orbital-kinetic-bombardment-gets-close-to-nuclear-on-damage-and-cost.html


40 posted on 03/04/2025 2:42:04 PM PST by Jonty30 (Groundhogs don't falsify their predictions for grant money, whereas climate scientists do. )
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