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DOGE takes aim at the penny
Business Insider ^ | Jan 22, 2025, 11:54 AM EST | Alice Tecotzky

Posted on 01/22/2025 12:15:10 PM PST by Olog-hai

Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency is targeting one of the federal government’s most notorious examples of waste: the penny.

Getting rid of the penny would be an early test of DOGE’s influence: Could it help eliminate a piece of government inefficiency that has survived decades of reform attempts?

On Tuesday, DOGE’s account on X highlighted the coin’s mounting costs: In fiscal year 2023, taxpayers spent more than $179 million producing over 4.5 billion pennies, with each coin costing more than three cents to make.

Despite bipartisan recognition of the penny’s costs since at least the 1970s, efforts to phase out or change the coin have repeatedly stalled in Congress, making it an ideal target for DOGE’s efficiency campaign.

Lawmakers were considering the questions as recently as November, when Sen. Joni Ernst of Iowa, who founded the Senate’s DOGE caucus, said changing the makeup of the coin could save significant money. …

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: doge; pennies; penny
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To: Olog-hai

Getting rid of the penny is a dumb idea prices would round off the higher end not exact amount mini inflation over time.


61 posted on 01/22/2025 1:09:11 PM PST by Vaduz
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To: DesertRhino
It’s amazing what losing 1 or 2% inflation for a hundred years does.

It's not lost. It's stolen. Inflation is just a type of tax, where the tax is on wealth. DOesn't need us to file any tax return to "collect" this tax, it's automatic. And, the FED even proudly TELLS us constantly their target for stealing from us - with the 2% number.

62 posted on 01/22/2025 1:10:11 PM PST by C210N (Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.)
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To: Olog-hai

KILL the PENNY!

They are a testimony to our economic stupidity.


63 posted on 01/22/2025 1:11:23 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim (S)
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To: Responsibility2nd

If the penny goes away, will prices be rounded up or down to the nearest nickel?


Reminds me of an episode of Married With Children. Steve was against the penny (cent) and wanted prices rounded to the nearest nickel. After arguing his position. Al replied. “What about taxes?” Poor Steve slumped in despondment.


64 posted on 01/22/2025 1:16:30 PM PST by Deepeasttx ( Sensitivity/diversity training, along with DEI are all un-walled reeducation camps....for now.)
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To: Olog-hai

There are enough pennies is this country to stop minting them and just go with what we have.


65 posted on 01/22/2025 1:17:05 PM PST by lucky american (Had enough yet?)
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To: Vaduz

AFAIK, there’s still a difference between ceasing minting more pennies and trying to force them out of circulation.


66 posted on 01/22/2025 1:20:41 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: SkyDancer
They did something similar during WW2 when copper was needed for the war industry; they made these red cardboard type pennies. MY grandad had a cup full of them as souvenirs.

Nope.

During 1943, one-cent pieces were made of zinc-coated steel. These coins were also known as "1943 steel cents."

In the years leading up to 1943, they were made of bronze (95% copper, 5% tin and zinc). From 1943 till 1946, they were made of so-called gilding metal (95% copper, 5% zinc). From 1947 till 1962, they were again made of bronze.

WIKIPEDIA:

In 1943, at the peak of World War II, zinc-coated steel cents were made for a short time because of war demands for copper. A few copper cents from 1943 were produced from 1942 planchets remaining in the bins. Similarly, some 1944 steel cents have been confirmed. From 1944 to 1946, salvaged ammunition shells made their way into the minting process, and it was not uncommon to see coins featuring streaks of brass or having a considerably darker finish than other issues.

No federal mint made cardboard one-cent pieces.

Regards,

67 posted on 01/22/2025 1:22:09 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: rellic

Why didn’t they just take a wire transfer for the entire amount?


68 posted on 01/22/2025 1:24:17 PM PST by Fledermaus (SANITY RETURNS!)
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To: Olog-hai

Yes. The Fed has made the dollar so cheap that pennies are a total waste. It cannot be terribly costly for businesses to just (1) truncate 1 or 2 cents to 0, round up 3 or 4 cents to a nickle, truncate 6 or 7 cents to a nickle, round up 8 or 9 cents to a dime. And the end of the day all that rounding and truncating will even out.

And if the Fed keeps inflating the currency will have to get rid of the nickle next. In the future they might have to get of the dime, then the quarter, bring back the fifty cent piece, then get rid of the fifty cent peice and then the one dollar.


69 posted on 01/22/2025 1:24:32 PM PST by Wuli
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To: Olog-hai

they should be lookin at the nickel

as of 2023

https://learn.apmex.com/answers/how-much-does-it-cost-to-produce-current-circulating-u-s-coins/


70 posted on 01/22/2025 1:35:24 PM PST by stylin19a (1 year i saw that 4,153,237 people got wed. not to stir up trouble but that should be an even number)
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To: Olog-hai

Pennies like all coins have to be replaced due to damage.

No minting is no circulation that’s the goal.


71 posted on 01/22/2025 1:40:23 PM PST by Vaduz
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To: Olog-hai

Printing pennies to fight inflation.


72 posted on 01/22/2025 1:43:10 PM PST by Mr. Blond
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To: Vaduz

Average life of a one-cent coin is about three decades. I’ll be long dead before the number of pennies out there could leave circulation.


73 posted on 01/22/2025 1:43:20 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Fledermaus

“Why didn’t they just take a wire transfer for the entire amount?”
Wire transfers cost me money and I have to go to my Credit Union in person to do that. So it was easier to go get the cash.
My main concern is my conceal carry permit is for WA state
not Hawaii, and I’m walking around with a lot of money and no protection. You can’t open carry in Hawaii outside a designated hunting area unless you are a cop or hired by a security company.
Hopefully that country wide reciprocity bill inching through congress gets to Trumps desk.


74 posted on 01/22/2025 1:57:04 PM PST by rellic (nno such thing as a moderate Moslem or Democrat )
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To: dljordan

Drop fdr from the Dime.


75 posted on 01/22/2025 1:57:54 PM PST by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING 0F AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: Olog-hai

Long past time for pennies to be retired. We can just round everything to the nearest 5.


76 posted on 01/22/2025 2:02:45 PM PST by eclecticEel ("The petty man forsakes what lies within his power and longs for what lies with Heaven." - Xunzi)
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To: Olog-hai

Fake Money Coin Assorted Set from Amazon.

77 posted on 01/22/2025 2:02:55 PM PST by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: Fai Mao
Or, revalue money so that pennies have value?

You could do that simply by making them out of copper. Dimes and Quarters, Half and silver Dollars out of, well, silver.

78 posted on 01/22/2025 2:04:50 PM PST by Sirius Lee ("Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.")
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To: rellic

“The dealer was plainly upset that I paid cash and did not finance the purchase”

They really do hate that. LOL!


79 posted on 01/22/2025 2:05:18 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (It's hard not to celebrate the fall of bad people. - Bongino)
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To: Strict9

cut all welfare.

..........
As the child of a social worker, I agree(seeing it firsthand) that welfare is nearly 100% fraud and should be eliminated.

People would scream and politicians who would vote for it are political toast.

But we can downscale in increments.


80 posted on 01/22/2025 2:15:54 PM PST by lurk (u)
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