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An interesting idea - this would affect the House and break up "big tent" parties - both the D and the R
1 posted on 01/14/2025 3:06:53 AM PST by Cronos
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To: Cronos

If the NYT thinks it’s a good idea, then I don’t.


2 posted on 01/14/2025 3:09:44 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Cronos

The problem is that it is all one big unipary corruptocracy.


3 posted on 01/14/2025 3:09:50 AM PST by AndyJackson
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In other countries one can see big parties manipulating the smaller ones in coalitions.


6 posted on 01/14/2025 3:19:19 AM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER REV. NIEMOLLER)
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To: Cronos
You're either forced to form your coalition before the election a la "first past the post" or winner take all systems like in the US or Britain.....

OR

You're forced to form your coalition after the election in proportional representation systems like you often see in European countries.

I prefer the former to the latter because it forces the parties/candidates to answer much more specifically about what their policies will be if elected. In the latter systems the largest party might have to roll over and give up policy making on this key issue or that in order to bring a minority party into the coalition so as to achieve a minority. That really sucks if you voted for that larger party thinking they were going to have one policy on an issue that was really important to you only to see that handed over to another party you did not vote for which might have a very different policy than the one you wanted.

and yes, I know politicians frequently lie and break their promises to voters and do not do what they said they were going to. That's true in all systems.

7 posted on 01/14/2025 3:20:12 AM PST by FLT-bird
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Cuz the party you back is utterly corrupt and incompetent and irredeemable, but you hate the guy who was elected to reform the other party that has become so bipartisan that it wallows in the incompetence of the party you love,

Maybe the problem is not the two party system but what the universal chattering class has turned it into. Mirror time, idiots.

10 posted on 01/14/2025 3:22:27 AM PST by AndyJackson
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With a well-informed, well-educated, highly engaged electorate, either “two-party” or “multi-party” democracy would work.

(And yes, I know America is a constitutional republic... but that’s a form of democracy.)

The part of the system that is broken is We The People. Far too few of us actually PARTICIPATE in our self-government. We’re too busy chasing after our livelihood and our entertainment to make self-government a priority.


12 posted on 01/14/2025 3:26:36 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Hope, as a righteous product of properly aligned Faith, IS in fact a strategy.)
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A multiparty system can be manipulated as readily as a two party system. Look at France, Canada, and Britain where unpopular leaders can stay in power through a coalition of leftist and centrist/RINO equivalent parties.

Even Theodore Roosevelt was unable to win under a third party banner. The others, from La Follette in 1924 to Perot in 1992 and 1996, are just footnotes in almanacs. The best hope is for THE MAGA movement to steadily eliminate moderates from Republican ranks.

18 posted on 01/14/2025 3:48:16 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: Cronos

Term limits.


19 posted on 01/14/2025 3:56:57 AM PST by SunTzuWu
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If you want more representative government, repeal the 17th, and cap the number of people that each congressional rep can represent at some low number like 25,000 or 50,000 so the size of the House grows to stadium size and each house seat is more responsive and representative to individual constituents.

The NYT doesn’t want that though. They want a Congress that will punish Trump and fund wars in Ukraine.


20 posted on 01/14/2025 4:35:53 AM PST by jz638
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Maybe they should fix New York’s one party system and their corrupt judicial system first.


21 posted on 01/14/2025 4:38:13 AM PST by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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What the USA really needs <-> MAGA


23 posted on 01/14/2025 4:43:13 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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Our systems need to be rationally designed to work well.


24 posted on 01/14/2025 4:44:40 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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The country needs to be broken up.

Uniform taxation on corporations to pay off the national debt is what is needed.

Imagine 50 states each offering to be a better place to live and work, and fully empowered to make things work.


25 posted on 01/14/2025 4:53:05 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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As a new Congress sputters into gear, this rusty binary split — a product of our antiquated winner-take-all electoral mechanisms — is key to understanding why our national legislature has become the divisive, dysfunctional place it is today.

Now that the GOP controls both houses is it a "problem". Wasn't such a problem when Nazi PeeLousy and her lapdog DemoTards ran things.

28 posted on 01/14/2025 5:10:10 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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In Europe’s multi party system, the leadership of each party controls who gets to run under their party.

In the US’s primary system, an outsider like Trump, if he gets enough signatures, can get on the primary ballot, and win the nomination, even if the party establishment hates him (as they did with Trump).

We need to focus more on primaries.


29 posted on 01/14/2025 5:10:59 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (Either you will rule. Or you will be ruled. There is no other choice.)
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Whaaa we losing. We have to change the system to make it work for us again. Typical Alt Leftist clowns.

No thanks. All a multi party system does is give disproportionate power to a small minority party to play majority maker


36 posted on 01/14/2025 7:22:44 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Don't blame me, my congressman is MTG!)
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key to understanding why our national legislature has become the divisive, dysfunctional place it is today.

The key to understanding the problem is stated in my Tagline.

38 posted on 01/14/2025 7:41:56 AM PST by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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