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Scientists solve mystery of plunge in IQ across Europe 2,000 years ago
Daily Mail (via MSN.com) ^ | 06 January 2025 | Xantha Leatham

Posted on 01/07/2025 7:07:33 AM PST by zeestephen

It was one of the most technologically advanced empires in history...But the Romans may have been battling with cognitive decline due to pollution, according to a study...Researchers suggest that widespread lead pollution - caused by mining - lowered the IQ of essentially the entire European population at the time.

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"Ancient lead pollution stemmed largely from silver mining, when the lead-rich mineral galena was melted down to extract silver."

1 posted on 01/07/2025 7:07:33 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

Any explanation for the drop the past 50 years in EUtopia?


2 posted on 01/07/2025 7:09:54 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within ? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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To: zeestephen

This is why we need to go green, has nothing to do with the moral decline...nothing at all...like America’s schools or no school at all during covid


3 posted on 01/07/2025 7:09:54 AM PST by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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To: zeestephen

And that gave rise to leftists.


4 posted on 01/07/2025 7:10:16 AM PST by brownsfan (It's going to take real, serious, hard times to wake the American public.)
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To: zeestephen

“cognitive decline due to pollution”

Why oh why did we dump Biden? Just a little fresh air and he would have been good as new.


5 posted on 01/07/2025 7:12:15 AM PST by packagingguy
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To: zeestephen

They talked about this in the 80s or 90s, lead in their drinking cups and all that. I don’t think this is a new idea.


6 posted on 01/07/2025 7:12:34 AM PST by pepsi_junkie ("We want no Gestapo or Secret Police. F. B. I. is tending in that direction." - Harry S Truman)
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To: zeestephen

And it was Muslims.


7 posted on 01/07/2025 7:13:25 AM PST by wildcard_redneck
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To: zeestephen

How was the IQ of Europeans 2000 years ago determined?


8 posted on 01/07/2025 7:14:31 AM PST by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
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To: zeestephen

“may have” “Researchers suggest that” turns into “Scientists solve mystery” in the headline.

The real mystery that solves is that the article is crap.


9 posted on 01/07/2025 7:14:33 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: zeestephen

What a garbage study.

The causal linkage of tiny amounts of lead to cognitive decline is hotly contested.

This is the basis of the whole study.

They cannot directly measure IQ for the population of the area, so they assume the IQ was reduced based on other questionable “studies”.

Silly premise.


10 posted on 01/07/2025 7:15:55 AM PST by marktwain (The Republic is at risk. Resistance to the Democratic Party is Resistance to Tyranny. )
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To: zeestephen

Ludicrous. As large as Roman mining operations were (look as Las Medulas in Spain), the notion that this produced enough lead pollution to lower the general IQ is simply nonsense, especially given that ore was smelted in situ because there were no trains to carry it close to cities.


11 posted on 01/07/2025 7:16:03 AM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: zeestephen

The Romans also had lead plumbing.


12 posted on 01/07/2025 7:16:41 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> --- )
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To: zeestephen

Alternatively Romans could have NOT altered their environment. Altered ores and metals allowed for building, food, roads, trade medicine. So what are you gonna do?


13 posted on 01/07/2025 7:17:01 AM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deo et Vives)
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To: zeestephen

If only they paid Rome more taxes, then this would not have happened!


14 posted on 01/07/2025 7:17:20 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (This is the end of the Republic....because we could not keep it.)
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To: wildcard_redneck

“And it was Muslims.”

There were no Muslims 2000 years ago.


15 posted on 01/07/2025 7:18:08 AM PST by marktwain (The Republic is at risk. Resistance to the Democratic Party is Resistance to Tyranny. )
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To: zeestephen

Are they sure fluoride was not involved?


16 posted on 01/07/2025 7:19:40 AM PST by Racketeer
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To: zeestephen

So, now you know why they installed lead water lines in DC, Flint, etc., etc....

...and why the fed continues to maintain that there IS a safe level of lead intake.


17 posted on 01/07/2025 7:19:45 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: zeestephen

Lead poisoning will definitely cause memory and cognitive impairment but it also makes one sick and physically weak. No evidence of that happening during the times when the Roman Legions were busily conquering much of the known world. Two thousand years ago the empire was at its peak. Engineers and architects were building great things. Idk why these people think there was a “plunge” in IQ. Must be some agenda behind their “research.”


18 posted on 01/07/2025 7:20:47 AM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: zeestephen

The real reason for the drop in IQ’s is that the women would get together while their husbands were at work and call their meetings The View and the meetings would be led by the local village idiot. The purpose of the meetings was to make up stories and criticize what other people did.


19 posted on 01/07/2025 7:23:10 AM PST by George J. Jetso
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To: marktwain

Nor were the various nations, empires, kingdoms, tribes administering IQ tests on there subjects.


20 posted on 01/07/2025 7:23:23 AM PST by Sirius Lee ("Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.")
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