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1 posted on 12/15/2024 5:35:18 AM PST by MtnClimber
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The Alvin Braggs of society are a big part of the problem.


2 posted on 12/15/2024 5:35:45 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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Manhattan Contrarian ping


3 posted on 12/15/2024 5:38:23 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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It’s not free evasion the city has to worry about...

Per AI

Based on the search results, the number of New York subway attacks has fluctuated over the past few years, with some increases and decreases reported. Here are the key statistics:

In 2023, there were 1,120 violent index crimes reported on the subway, compared to 935 in 2019, representing a 20% increase.

From January 1 to March 3, 2024, there were 388 incidents reported on the subway, compared to 343 during the same period in 2023, indicating a 13.1% increase.

In the first quarter of 2024 (January 1 to March 31), there were 538 subway crimes recorded, averaging six crimes per day.

Felony assaults on the subway dropped 11% in early 2024 compared to the previous year (49 vs. 55).

However, attacks on trains that left victims injured jumped 53% from 373 in 2019 to 570 in 2023.


4 posted on 12/15/2024 5:40:27 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Climate Change is Real. Winter, Spring, Summer and Fall.)
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Probably soon be deemed racist to charge a fare to ride.


5 posted on 12/15/2024 5:42:03 AM PST by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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Simple solution. Gather statistics, and remove bus stops / close stations where more than 25% of the riders board without paying. Then over several years, move that number down to 5%. Soon they will only be carrying paying riders, they can remove older equipment from service, and lay off the excess employees, reducing costs significantly.


7 posted on 12/15/2024 5:48:07 AM PST by PAR35
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On a lighter yet related note, here’s the Kingston Trio’s MTA song:

https://youtu.be/_oaVU0I_oCA?si=irjFZNFkeGm-AzEZ


9 posted on 12/15/2024 5:49:44 AM PST by Leaning Right (It’s morning in America. Again.)
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Just start arresting them and the problem is solved.

Kind of like a parent that wonders why their children do not behave. No enforcement.

Put a camera on the styles and an arresting officer around the corner. Keep the cameras and have officers in place as needed.

Make the fines steep enough that they include a transit pass for them in the future.


11 posted on 12/15/2024 5:54:54 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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The researcher should have done their research in Manhattan along the busy east side 1st and 2nd avenue bus routes, instead of intentionally concentrating on a route with many “mostly” black residents. They would have noticed on 1st and 2nd avenue bus routes, which pass through poor, middle class and rich neighborghoods, that “fare beating” on the buses has no dominant “race” or “ethnicity”, all sorts of people do it equally.

The real issue is it does not matter why.

The MTA could have spent the $1 million dollars better by putting MTA officers on the buses, often enough and random enough, stopping fare beaters, and they would have developed psychology in the bus riders that they could get caught any time. Doing something would have been better than asking why.


12 posted on 12/15/2024 5:54:55 AM PST by Wuli
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It’s much the same as when activists insist that the judicial system is racist because so many black men are in prison. They ignore the fact that it is black men who commit the majority of violent crimes.

They can’t arrest fare dodgers because the majority of them are black and that would be considered racist.


15 posted on 12/15/2024 6:03:00 AM PST by CFW
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Perhaps linking bus Wi-Fi and subway cell phone service to fare paying might help.


16 posted on 12/15/2024 6:03:08 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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I take the bus in LA. People brazenly board the bus without paying, often boarding at the back door to avoid the driver. Yes, virtually all are POC.


20 posted on 12/15/2024 6:09:05 AM PST by Nea Wood ( )
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They’ll come up with the only solution that leftists can...they’ll raise the fares so that those who do pay can subsidize the law breakers


21 posted on 12/15/2024 6:15:54 AM PST by DouglasKC
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Make no mistake, the executives at the transit authority were quite happy to overlook fare beaters for decades.

What's changed now is that they're trying to raise fares but paying riders have walked in with the lawyers; "before you raise the rates on us, go collect the fares you're already owed."

22 posted on 12/15/2024 6:21:05 AM PST by T.B. Yoits
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I remember living in Kiev, Ukraine for a few months 10 years ago. The metro fare was 6 to 9 cents. Everybody paid.


26 posted on 12/15/2024 7:19:10 AM PST by jroehl (And how we burned in the camps later - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn - The Gulag Archipelago)
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When Giuliani was mayor, he stopped it.


28 posted on 12/15/2024 8:08:16 AM PST by fso301
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All it would take is setting up a hidden camera looking at the turnstiles, and noting the fare beaters on the video.


30 posted on 12/15/2024 8:23:34 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Your agenda is just words, unless you FIRST focus on gaining power.)
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Commies don’t pay bus fare because everything is free under communism!


33 posted on 12/15/2024 8:42:17 AM PST by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show host to me.... Sting)
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But the problem is that until we can have an honest discussion about the association of race and fare-beating, it is almost impossible to address the issue.

NY City is both the welfare capital of America and also the black political activism capital of America. MTA is in trouble until that changes.

And it gets both supported and bailed-out by the rest of America thanks to our printed, fiat monetary system and massive government debt.

36 posted on 12/15/2024 8:55:29 AM PST by PGR88
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Was in NYC last week; you can now pay on buses and subway with a quick pass of your phone (obv you have to have your phone set up with a credit card). No cash, no Metro card, no special app...it’s never been easier to pay.


38 posted on 12/15/2024 9:52:55 AM PST by LizzieD
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When I was going to Columbia University in the 1950s, if I remember correctly the subway fare was ten cents (a silver dime).


39 posted on 12/15/2024 11:17:33 AM PST by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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