Here’s the Brief Manifesto Luigi Mangione Addressed to ‘The Feds’

Mediaite ^ | 12/10/2024 | Michael Luciano

[Miami Rebel]

To the Feds, I’ll keep this short, because I do respect what you do for our country. To save you a lengthy investigation, I state plainly that I wasn’t working with anyone. This was fairly trivial: some elementary social engineering, basic CAD, a lot of patience. The spiral notebook, if present, has some straggling notes and To Do lists that illuminate the gist of it. My tech is pretty locked down because I work in engineering so probably not much info there. I do apologize for any strife of traumas but it had to be done. Frankly, these parasites simply had it coming. A reminder: the US has the #1 most expensive healthcare system in the world, yet we rank roughly #42 in life expectancy. United is the [indecipherable] largest company in the US by market cap, behind only Apple, Google, Walmart. It has grown and grown, but as our life expectancy? No the reality is, these [indecipherable] have simply gotten too powerful, and they continue to abuse our country for immense profit because the American public has allwed them to get away with it. Obviously the problem is more complex, but I do not have space, and frankly I do not pretend to be the most qualified person to lay out the full argument. But many have illuminated the corruption and greed (e.g.: Rosenthal, Moore), decades ago and the problems simply remain. It is not an issue of awareness at this point, but clearly power games at play. Evidently I am the first to face it with such brutal honesty.

[Miami Rebel]

We can only speculate about the outcome of a trial, but the fact is that the health insurance industry has never before faced such a wave of so criticism and anger.

So to that extent the killer has already been successful.

[gundog]

And a crap diet, combined with a sedentary lifestyle. If the CEO s of every health care company out there told the American people to get active, and eat right, the American people would tell them to drop dead.

[Miami Rebel]

It’ll be a shitshow if RFK Jr. succeeds in implementing the revisions to the American diet he’s proposed. His popularity is due to his attacks on vaccination, but his proposals for food reforms are less well-known and represent Big Government at its most extreme.

[JeanLM]

That just tells me he was programed and a useful tool to someone.
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I don’t believe he did it. He exposed himself to lots of cameras and was there but the shooter was a stone cold professional who had done this before, not some idealistic spoiled kid with a bad back.
Someone wanted that particular victim dead and not as a symbol of anything. Don’t believe the 3D gun either. This guy was involved but was a decoy who wants to be the anti-capitalist martyr.

[iontheball]

“... yet we rank roughly #42 in life expectancy.”
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The biggest determiner of this slide in life expectancy is the Covid bio-attack with the vax that has killed hundred of thousands, many in early years of life. Life expectancy was increasing in the U.S. until that depopulation weapon was released on humanity.

[Salamander]

I’m disappointed that he didn’t end that with “So long, and thanks for all the fish”.

[Miami Rebel]

A few days ago everyone was commenting on how sloppy the shooter was, but now he was a “stone cold professional.”

Idle speculation of some grand conspiracy violates the rule of Occam’s Razor.

But since you’re speculating, riddle us this: cui bono? Who stands to benefit? Big Un-Health Insurance?

[blueplum]

do demonstrate a solid reasoning capacity

where? sounds like a self-agrandizing jackass to me - the Joker as opposed to Captain America

[Miami Rebel]

OK, let’s drop the COVID stats.

Here’s from 2010: While there is room for improvement in every country, the U.S. stands out for not getting good value for its health care dollars, ranking last despite spending $7,290 per capita on health care in 2007 compared to the $3,837 spent per capita in the Netherlands, which ranked first overall.

[Sarah Barracuda]

Well we know now he’s a leftist, tell me what person would give praise to feds unless they are a commie freak

[Vermont Lt]

It’s difficult to argue that he is unhinged….

No, it’s completely “hinged” to gun down a stranger in the street.

The kid is a monster, because clearly he is not a moron.

[daniel1212]

Fact check:

US has the #1 most expensive healthcare system in the world, yet we rank roughly #42 in life expectancy

True:

U.S. healthcare spending per capita is almost twice the average of other wealthy countries...the Peterson-Kaiser Health System Tracker notes that the United States has shorter hospital stays, fewer angioplasty surgeries, and more knee replacements than comparable countries, yet the prices for each are higher in the United States.
There are many possible factors for why healthcare prices in the United States are higher than other countries, ranging from the consolidation of hospitals — leading to a lack of competition — to the inefficiencies and administrative waste that derive from the complexity of the U.S. healthcare system. In fact, the United States spends over $1,000 per person on administrative costs — almost five times more than the average of other wealthy countries and more than it spends on long-term healthcare

The United States spends more on administrative costs but less on long-term care than other wealthy countries [comes in at 7] - https://www.pgpf.org/article/how-does-the-us-healthcare-system-compare-to-other-countries/

yet we rank roughly #42 in life expectancy.

True (now at #40 out of 183 countries): - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy#UN:_Estimate_of_life_expectancy_for_various_ages_in_2023

Obviously the problem is more complex, but I do not have space, and frankly I do not pretend to be the most qualified person to lay out the full argument.

True, and which is why the man's argument and thus is rage is not based upon objective analysis. Besides ignoring procurement costs in comparing health care costs (also ignored in alarms about US military spending), the US tanks #10 out of 200 countries in obesity (42%), Find out the life expectancy and cost of health care relative to quality in countries that have worse obesity.

[Scott from the Left Coast]

I have a statistician who works for me and pays some attention to the actual data related to life expectancy. Surprisingly, to me anyway, the data does not suggest that COVID, which killed much larger numbers of older people is the main driver here. The biggest factor in the drop in life expectancy in the U.S. is a sharp rise in mortality in the 25-40 age range (and this is far more in the male population)…and the cause is the massive increase in drug overdose deaths (fentanyl being an out-sized player in this).

So in some ways you could say open borders has played a very large role…and like with COVID, China is overwhelmingly the original source.

[monkeyshine]

This is just the sort of thing that could galvanize the population and spur public debate that results in change - for better or worse. I see some people online reacting with glee or schadenfreude. Not me. Cold blooded murder is what it is whatever the cause. But he very well indeed may cause some of the change his actions intended. I have no particular love for UHC they are scum imo from personal experience. Sometimes some people get pushed too far over the edge, sort of like Travis Bickle. Or they are just already insane to begin with, like Travis Bickle - but something sets them off.

[liberalh8ter]

Isn’t it ironic that he bemoans the decline of American healthcare to an entity of the cause of the decline….. the Federal Government.

[daniel1212]

And a crap diet, combined with a sedentary lifestyle. If the CEO s of every health care company out there told the American people to get active, and eat right, the American people would tell them to drop dead.

Yes, see my post above. By the grace of God, which is why I have not needed medical services for a long time, and in the Lord's mercy, should not.

[Jeff Vader]

I disagree, there’s no way you can find 12 people to sit on a jury that haven’t either been screwed by their health insurance company or haven’t had a loved one screwed

[Miami Rebel]

We can all safely assume he’s a leftist.

That said, I don’t think his anti-healthcare insurance company stance is anathema even to MAGA. In fact, I think it has a lot of traction across partisan lines.

(Full disclaimer: I’m covered by UnitedHealthcare’s Preferred Care Network and I’m perfectly happy with it.)

[Jim Noble]

Here's the short version:

The sum of money contributed by employers, by unions, by state and Federal payors is finite.

There have always been middlemen in health care. When I started in 1982, most of them were helpers, getting me up to date references, helping surgeons get new or hard to find tools, yes, bringing in lunch once in a while.

But Skynet has become self-aware. An army of MHA/MBA people has arisen, and in response to the explosion of Federal and state rules, regulations, and metrics, the share of the finite pie going to EHR administrators and tech support, Quality Performance directors, Federal partnership associates, Rev Cycle managers, utilization coordinators, compliance teams, Pharn=macy Benefit Managers and so on keeps growing and growing.

The corollary is that the funds available for patient care are shrinking and shrinking. The system is in crisis.

Ther are sectors like cosmetic plastic surgery which can operate and thrive on more or less market principles. But the system as a whole cannot as long as the number of straws in the drink, the number of non-patient care mouths to feed, keep up their relentless growth.

Nationalization is inevitable. Look at this graph and tell me how this ends:

None of these roles existed ten years ago.

[Larry Lucido]

Here is my manifesto, in advance:

“You can all bite me!”

That is all.