Posted on 11/24/2024 9:23:04 PM PST by mairdie
International heart experts believe the weight-loss drug Ozempic could be given to millions of healthy adults, amid mounting evidence it also helps protect the body from cardiovascular disease.
While the powerful drug, and similar medicines such as Mounjaro and Wegovy, are incredibly effective at suppressing appetite, world-leading cardiologists have unveiled more than a dozen exciting discoveries about the jabs that go far beyond weight loss.
The findings, revealed at the American Heart Association’s annual conference in Chicago, provide hope to sufferers of deadly heart conditions that, until recently, seemed near-impossible to treat.
Surprisingly, many experts admit they are still unsure why these medicines, known collectively as glucagon-like peptide-1 receptor agonists, or GLP-1 medicines, are so effective at protecting the heart.
Until recently, it was thought that the weight-loss triggered by the weekly injections was the sole reason patients were less likely to suffer cardiovascular complications, as obesity is a leading cause of most forms of chronic disease.
The same logic was used to explain why growing research suggests GLP-1 drugs lower the risk of developing a host of serious conditions, including kidney disease, cancer and even Alzheimer’s. However, multiple studies presented at the conference put paid to this theory.
Patients taking GLP-1 injections – regardless of whether they even lose weight – are significantly less likely to suffer all manner of dangerous heart problems.
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It shouldn’t affect your decision making whatsoever. It should ONLY make you balance what you hear from naysayers. Only you and your doctor can decide what experiments for you to try and how to test frequently.
I keep massive tables of data that I can take to my doctor to know EXACTLY what I put into my body when so that they can balance that against what their test data shows resulting. Big believer in writing down everything and keeping your doctor along with you every step of the way.
I have been on Mounjaro since it came out, and its worked great for me.
My family literally is larger than average. My great grandfather and all his children each weighed over 350 pounds. My great uncle, Elmer “Big Bones” Remmer, (the black sheep of the family and part of the California mob) was the person about whom the mob term “whale” was coined.
While I was never that large, I weighed more than 200 pounds in the 9th grade, and ultimately maxed out at about 260. Like all but one of my siblings, I developed diabetes and sleep apnea as an adult. I had a heart issue requiring a stent from stress when my now-ex wife first cheated on, and then left me.
My doctor put me first on Ozempic, and then on Mounjaro when it came out. On Mounjaro, I lost about 35 pounds over the first 9 months, plateaued for a while, then recently lost about another 10 pounds. At 65, my A1C is good, I feel much better with the weight off, and haven’t had any further heart issues.
All with no side effects that I have noticed. So its been literally a lifesaver for me.
Congratulations on the A1C. Really wonderful. Stress will get you. Hope it’s all in the past and life stays smooth for you.
I do not take ozempic. No heart attacks or strokes at age 84. My medicine is 20 minutes exercise every day, rain or sunshine
Well, I am deficient on the record keeping. Taking over 30 tablets / capsules every day (mostly supplements), it is difficult to attribute causation when adverse effects and unwanted interactions come up, unless it happens right at the start. I have to stop most of them and then add back one at a time, which takes weeks, but this often still doesn’t catch the culprit. Also, things tend to be inconsistent and a supplement that causes GI problems at one point might be entirely benign the rest of the time.
One thing that has proven helpful though is the Chatbots. When given a long list of supplements and RX drugs the LLMs can very thoroughly go through and discover possible interactions and individual troublemakers.
I treat pill taking as a scientific experiment. Only one variable can be tested at a time. If the doctor wants 2 changes, we hold one off until the first change has been thoroughly evaluated. Only then can the next change take place.
I would also give major thanks to your parents for giving you a wonderful set of genes. May that work for you for the next 20 years or more.
Bkmk
I’m not nearly that methodical in personal life. But then 99% of the time I get along with my supplements and RX drugs just fine and some have proven very useful.
I’m not telling anyone what to take or what not to take, I’m saying beware of studies claiming fantastic new uses of any particular drug, especially if the studies are paid for by the pharmaceutical companies that manufacture the drug in question.
Diabetes runs in my family as well and I have sleep apnea, in June I had open heart surgery to repair my aortic valve that was deformed since birth due to hereditary reasons, besides the valve repair, I had to have a portion of my aorta repaired due to an aneurysm and ultimately had a pacemaker implanted.
The single best thing that I did in recovery was cardiac rehab which is basically supervised exercise and diet counseling, after cardiac rehab which consisted of 24 one-hour sessions, I joined the YMCA and continued working out.
I realized the harder I worked out the better I felt and the more weight I lost, it is a positive feedback loop. It also relieved a lot of anxiety that my heart was actually working better than before and would hold up under stress.
I now workout 3 times a week at the gym and walk 5 miles 3 times a week, all since my surgery.
Since June I’ve lost 30 pounds via exercise and diet changes, I gave up drinking alcohol and made a few other changes.
Two significant things about my health I learned in the hospital after surgery was my A1C levels showed no sign I was prediabetic or would ever become prediabetic and my coronary arteries were clean, and my cholesterol levels were all in the good range.
I’m not anti-drug, but drugs are a short cut for many in America when lifestyle and diet changes would produce better results for far less money, but it requires work and dedication to change, which is really difficult.
My grandfather, father and brother all were diabetics, all from bad diets and lifestyles.
In June of this year I had open heart surgery, I was born with something called a bicuspid aortic valve, approximately 2% of the public is born with this birth defect and 80% of bicuspid aortic valve sufferers have some type of surgery in their life to repair the valve.
A bicuspid valve causes other issues, in my case I had an aortic aneurysm which got repaired at the same time as the valve replacement, ultimately, I had to have a pacemaker implanted at the same time as the open-heart surgery.
Two additional things I learned in the hospital, I was told I was not a prediabetic and showed no signs of becoming one and my coronary arteries were clear, and my cholesterol levels were all in the good range.
As I told another poster, the single best thing I did in recovery was cardiac rehab which consisted of 24 one-hour sessions of supervised exercise and diet counseling. After cardiac rehab I joined the YMCA to continue the exercise program.
I now work out at the YMCA 3 times a week and walk 5 miles 3 times a week, since June I’ve lost 30 pounds all without drugs.
You’re absolutely right, what worked for me my not work for anyone else, but simple lifestyle changes which consist of exercise and a better diet can only help and it’s far cheaper than a pharmaceutical solution in many cases.
To me, family heritage counts as much as environment. Death certificates outside the immediate family for your ancestors can be a big help showing what natural problems will possibly crop up and letting the doctor to be warned to keep a closer eye on those issues. Stroke runs in our family and I’ve already had one carotid artery roto-rooted. With luck, won’t need the other side done.
Your surgery was a BIG deal. So glad they kept their eye on it and that they got everything done at once. May that be the end of your serious problems.
Open heart surgery is no joke that’s for sure, the mental part was much harder on me than the physical part, there was a 3-week gap between when I agreed to the surgery and when I had the surgery, as much as you try, that’s all you think about.
Then in Cardiac ICU after the surgery, I was told I had entered stage 3 heart block and needed a pacemaker, mentally that was a hard thing for me to accept.
After I got home, the anxiety about whether your heart was going to hold up was a real thing.
That’s why I said Cardiac Rehab was the single best thing I did in recovery, the harder I worked the better I felt, and the anxiety went away because my heart was working great and held up.
You have two choices when it comes to heart valve replacement, you can choose a biologic valve, which in my case was a pig valve or a mechanical valve.
I chose the pig valve because with a mechanical valve you have to be on Warfarin every day for the rest of your life, with a pig valve I was on eloquis for 3 months, the pig valve lasts between 10-15 years and doesn’t require blood thinners for the rest of your life, and can be replaced with a procedure that goes thru the main artery in your groin, a one hour procedure with a one day stay in the hospital.
I have an aortic root aneurysm. Still in the watch and wait stage. Not sure yet when I have to get the surgery but I’m extremely anxious about it.
Be healed, go on the Lion’s Diet.
But I don’t like zebra and wildebeest.
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Good morning.
I’m a physician.
I am not sure what your point is.
True, many of the foods you list are high in good things, like Selenium in bananas, spinach and Brazilian nuts, but many of these foods are dangerously high in oxalates if eaten regularly.
Oxalates metabolize into crystals that damage the kidneys and deposit in other organs esp the thyroid, joints and the brain.
Have you ever had kidney stones or bone spurs? Could be from oxalates.
In fact, if you’re one of these people, (at one time me included), who drinks smoothies with spinach, and chocolate and eats handfuls of nuts all day long, you might be getting high levels of oxalates.
Here are a few signs and symptoms of oxalate overload, and I am quite sure that some people reading this posting, (esp if these are vegans) are suffering from too much oxalates, and don’t know it.
Oxalates could be a hidden source of headaches, urinary pain, genital irritation, joint, muscle, intestinal or eye pain. Other common oxalate-caused symptoms can also include mood conditions, anxiety, sleep problems, weakness, atherosclerosis, prostatitis and burning feet.
Read up on it, because many physician don’t even consider it.
Just one you think the foods we’ve been eating are healthy, it turns out they can be harmful to us in large quantities.
I’ll pass ..
Serious side effects...
hypoglycemia
allergic reactions, gallstones,
tachycardia,
pancreatitis, and
kidney damage
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If it increases insulin production it eventually causes worsening insulin resistance.
Insulin resistance is the real killer.
And the most exciting of all are the HUGE profits they will make. Never mind negative side effects that they will fight hard to dismiss.
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