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It Sounds Like NASA's Moon Rocket Might Be Getting Canceled
futurism.com ^ | Nov 13, 3:06 PM EST by | Victor Tangermann

Posted on 11/13/2024 7:56:30 PM PST by BenLurkin

NASA's plagued Space Launch System rocket, which is being developed to deliver the first astronauts to the Moon in over half a century, is on thin ice.

According to Ars Technica senior space reporter Eric Berger's insider sources, there's an "at least 50-50" chance that the rocket "will be canceled."

"Not Block 1B. Not Block 2," he added, referring to the variant that was used during NASA's uncrewed Artemis I test flight in 2022 and a more powerful design with a much higher translunar injection payload capacity, respectively. "All of it."

To be clear, as Berger himself points out, we're still far "from anything being settled." Nonetheless, the reporter's sources have historically been highly reliable, suggesting the space agency may indeed be getting cold feet about continuing to pour billions of dollars into the non-reusable rocket.

The SLS has already seen its fair share of budget overruns and many years of delays. In a 2022 interview, former NASA deputy administrator Lori Garver told Futurism that the project is simply "not sustainable."

The rocket platform has become a political football, going well past $6 billion over budget and over half a decade behind schedule.

"I will be direct," former NASA administrator Michael Griffin told the House Space and Aeronautics Subcommittee during a January hearing on the space agency's Artemis program,"In my judgment, the Artemis Program is excessively complex, unrealistically priced, compromises crew safety, poses very high mission risk of completion, and is highly unlikely to be completed in a timely manner even if successful."

So far, the rocket has been launched only once, as part of NASA's inaugural Artemis mission in 2022, but damage sustained by the agency's Orion spacecraft has given officials pause about its ability to safely send astronauts to the Moon in the coming years.

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To: Lizavetta

Obama absolutely wrecked NASA How? And why would he?


Muslim outreach for one, and it was is part of his transformational plan for the US. Or in other words, to completely destroy the US - taking out NASA was just one step.


61 posted on 11/14/2024 5:40:25 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Sirius Lee

Elon’s next trick will be to catch the returning ?HLS? spaceship

Catching Starship is part of the plan for the next flight or the one after that.


62 posted on 11/14/2024 5:42:36 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Owen

That basis is that faster than light travel is not possible, and never will be possible.


You state that from your advanced knowledge of the future, and theoretical physics? How many degrees do you currently hold in cosmology and theoretical physics?

Maybe your advanced knowledge of the future, you could enlighten us on how Trumps new term will turn out as well? Stock tips would be helpful also.


63 posted on 11/14/2024 5:48:45 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.

The question raised in my mind is Elon Musk as a primary government contractor in the form of Space X now in a position of conflict of interest?

As a practical matter, his real competitors are increasingly falling behind leaving Space X in a near monopoly for rocket launches.


64 posted on 11/14/2024 5:49:48 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Where is ZORRO when California so desperately needs him?)
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To: ealgeone

No kidding. Nelson was around when the moon was born. Time for him to go.


65 posted on 11/14/2024 6:01:05 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: Inyo-Mono

They don’t have the plans, and no one remembers how it worked.

Seriously. All that stuff is lost.


66 posted on 11/14/2024 6:02:05 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: PIF

I don’t think you understood.

No FTL, ever, is the basis of Three Body Problem. It is a series of award winning Chinese science fiction novels. Recently filmed in corrupted form by Netflix.

I have two Masters degrees, courtesy of the USAF. Ionospheric plasma physics and an MBA. Not really relevant to the Chinese novelist, so dunno why you asked.


67 posted on 11/14/2024 6:06:43 AM PST by Owen
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To: BenLurkin
The next American on the moon will either be --

1) A scientist on a Chinese spacecraft.
2) Something arranged by Elon Musk with Chinese permission to land at their base.

Meanwhile Trumo has other thing to worry about besides a space race.

68 posted on 11/14/2024 6:17:32 AM PST by Salman (Winning an election is not enough.)
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To: PIF

It was a joke, sparky.


69 posted on 11/14/2024 7:14:41 AM PST by Sirius Lee (Trump/Vance 2024 or GFY)
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To: Sirius Lee

Make a joke, but that is the actual plan for the upcoming Starship flights. So it was no much of a joke, sparky.


70 posted on 11/14/2024 7:28:11 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Owen

Yeah I read all 4 of the Chinese novels - but you missed a lot reading only the first ... apparently. And yes there was FTL in the series, in case you missed it.


71 posted on 11/14/2024 7:31:10 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Owen

Ionospheric plasma physics


Is not theoretical physics or cosmology.

PS: there is another version of TBP, not corrupt, made by TenCent.


72 posted on 11/14/2024 7:32:58 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

Watched the TenCent version and heard so much bad about Netflix that I saw only youtube clips.

The books are a work of genius. The author was a power plant engineer in China before he sold zillions.

Ionospheric plasma is not only . . .not relevant to about a thousand things, it has itself changed since my day. Finite element analysis of plasma volumes don’t yield the same numbers it used to. Almost certainly derives from daring to take data during some part of the 11 year solar cycle and not others (because it didn’t exist).

Those were the good old days.

TenCent’s version is about 90X better. They have over a billion people from which to select great actors and actresses, for reasons other than lip filler.


73 posted on 11/14/2024 7:45:00 AM PST by Owen
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To: hinckley buzzard
United Lunch Alliance

Interesting typo!

74 posted on 11/14/2024 7:49:21 AM PST by MortMan (Charter member of AAAAA - American Association Against Alliteration Abuse)
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To: BenLurkin

DEI could not figure out what biological thing would be “the first to step foot on the moon, in __ years.”

Thus, mission and rocket stuff canceled.

But NASA not canceled.


75 posted on 11/14/2024 7:53:45 AM PST by linMcHlp
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To: Owen

Dark Forest, Deaths End, and The Redemption of Time are also excellent and deserve a film or series each.


76 posted on 11/14/2024 7:55:08 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF
Make a joke, but that is the actual plan for the upcoming Starship flights. So it was no much of a joke, sparky.

I did. The joke I made was that Elon would try to land it atop of the already landed booster just to show off. That is not the "actual" plan, unless you simply don't know what the word means, sparky.

77 posted on 11/14/2024 7:59:53 AM PST by Sirius Lee (Trump/Vance 2024 or GFY)
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To: PIF

Amen. Another SpaceX achievement!


78 posted on 11/14/2024 8:00:29 AM PST by Theophilus (covfefe)
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To: Owen

Like the great prophet Berra proclaimed: it ain’t over till it’s over!


79 posted on 11/14/2024 8:04:42 AM PST by Theophilus (covfefe)
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To: steve86
China landed on the moon in 2019 and 2020 and returned lunar samples on the latter mission. India landed successfully in 2023.

Those were unmanned, not manned missions.

80 posted on 11/14/2024 8:29:12 AM PST by chud
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