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It Sounds Like NASA's Moon Rocket Might Be Getting Canceled
futurism.com ^ | Nov 13, 3:06 PM EST by | Victor Tangermann

Posted on 11/13/2024 7:56:30 PM PST by BenLurkin

NASA's plagued Space Launch System rocket, which is being developed to deliver the first astronauts to the Moon in over half a century, is on thin ice.

According to Ars Technica senior space reporter Eric Berger's insider sources, there's an "at least 50-50" chance that the rocket "will be canceled."

"Not Block 1B. Not Block 2," he added, referring to the variant that was used during NASA's uncrewed Artemis I test flight in 2022 and a more powerful design with a much higher translunar injection payload capacity, respectively. "All of it."

To be clear, as Berger himself points out, we're still far "from anything being settled." Nonetheless, the reporter's sources have historically been highly reliable, suggesting the space agency may indeed be getting cold feet about continuing to pour billions of dollars into the non-reusable rocket.

The SLS has already seen its fair share of budget overruns and many years of delays. In a 2022 interview, former NASA deputy administrator Lori Garver told Futurism that the project is simply "not sustainable."

The rocket platform has become a political football, going well past $6 billion over budget and over half a decade behind schedule.

"I will be direct," former NASA administrator Michael Griffin told the House Space and Aeronautics Subcommittee during a January hearing on the space agency's Artemis program,"In my judgment, the Artemis Program is excessively complex, unrealistically priced, compromises crew safety, poses very high mission risk of completion, and is highly unlikely to be completed in a timely manner even if successful."

So far, the rocket has been launched only once, as part of NASA's inaugural Artemis mission in 2022, but damage sustained by the agency's Orion spacecraft has given officials pause about its ability to safely send astronauts to the Moon in the coming years.

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1 posted on 11/13/2024 7:56:30 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Maybe in his copious free time Elon could have a gander at NASA......


2 posted on 11/13/2024 8:01:54 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite its unfashionability)
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To: BenLurkin

Fire the idiot bill nelson first thing. Put EM in charge of NASA. We’ll be on the moon in two years and Mars in four.


3 posted on 11/13/2024 8:02:58 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: All

Obama absolutely wrecked NASA


4 posted on 11/13/2024 8:03:38 PM PST by mmichaels1970 ( )
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To: BenLurkin

NASA will be in better hands now that the adults are back on charge.


5 posted on 11/13/2024 8:04:57 PM PST by montag813
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To: ealgeone

musk is going to launch unmanned starship(s) to mars in 26 months and manned starship(s) 26 months after that. Its an orbit thing. its now or 26 months from now and he is not ready now.Orbital mechanics doesnt leave much room for error.


6 posted on 11/13/2024 8:07:04 PM PST by calljack (Sometimes your worst nightmare is just a start.)
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To: BenLurkin

Why not use the same type of rocket used to send men to the men in 1969? It worked.


7 posted on 11/13/2024 8:14:21 PM PST by Inyo-Mono
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To: Inyo-Mono

Hahahaha!


8 posted on 11/13/2024 8:15:53 PM PST by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves.)
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To: BenLurkin

Maybe a video of that project would make a great episode for Red Dwarf...


9 posted on 11/13/2024 8:16:46 PM PST by SuperLuminal
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To: Inyo-Mono

Someone needs to talk to the crew at CuriousMarc’s channel. They know more about the original moon shot hardware and software than anyone alive.


10 posted on 11/13/2024 8:18:28 PM PST by Windcatcher
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To: BenLurkin
Last time I checked a NASA website, and I think it was for the Artemis program, it was so overtly DEI-focused it came across as a parody. Not surprised the Didn't Earn It crowd can't do anything right.

Imagine if 60 years after Columbus all the European powers had done was send ships to gather plant and soil samples and establish one tiny colony of 6-7 men on a Caribbean island. That's what the current state of space exploration has been under the control of government space programs. It's time to turn the private sector loose.

11 posted on 11/13/2024 8:27:45 PM PST by EnderWiggin1970
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To: All
Yeah, Musk may be our only hope of getting back to the Moon, much less Mars.
I don't see NASA being able to do it anymore, and Boeing doesn't look ready after stranding those two astronauts in space and all of their other problems.

I remember seeing a brief clip a couple of years ago with some engineer from NASA who said something like we don't know how anymore, and I took it to mean that they must have lost a lot of institutional knowledge at NASA in the years after Apollo 17 when they cancelled the program, and then the Germans engineers, especially Wernher von Braun and Kurt Debus, passed away. Those guys were the heart of the program and probably took a lot of that knowledge to their graves.

Today we would basically be starting over. Technology has gotten better, but in many ways we are dumber.

NASA even lost a lot of the old footage of Moon walks that our astronauts did back then. They think that the tapes must have been erased and reused.
Government efficiency at its finest...

12 posted on 11/13/2024 8:34:11 PM PST by chud
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To: BenLurkin

Artemis is being built by United Lunch Alliance, which is Boeing and Lockheed. That’s all one needs to know.


13 posted on 11/13/2024 8:40:31 PM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: chud
they must have lost a lot of institutional knowledge at NASA in the years after Apollo 17

NASA has been focused on more important things.


14 posted on 11/13/2024 8:45:53 PM PST by Angelino97
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To: mmichaels1970

Congress wrecked SLS, by mandating that it be built with 50 year old recycled Shuttle tech and serve as a giant Federal jobs project.


15 posted on 11/13/2024 8:58:10 PM PST by Campion (Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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To: Inyo-Mono

They can’t build the saturn 5 anymore. Dont know how, and no one makes the engines. Plus the current launchpads may not be made to handle their liftoff power either.


16 posted on 11/13/2024 9:19:01 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: chud

Some of the original plans/prints for the saturn 5 don’t exist anymore.


17 posted on 11/13/2024 9:20:06 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: mmichaels1970
Obama absolutely wrecked NASA.

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"Math is hard!"

18 posted on 11/13/2024 9:27:16 PM PST by MikelTackNailer (We can never stop failing for the minute we do, we fail.)
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To: All

Space is hard.

Even for the Chinese, who likely will get there prior to whatever fallback plan is selected.


19 posted on 11/13/2024 9:31:28 PM PST by Owen
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To: Owen

I should add that there is a theory that the knowledge to get back to the Moon, and possibly go to Mars was not lost.
Debus, von Braun, and some of their compatriots siphoned it off and created a sort of breakaway group that operates in the shadows (Eisenhower warned about it in his farewell address).
The US, Russia, and possibly China know about this group, and even trade with them, but can't touch them because they have vastly superior technology. The only thing preventing a complete takeover is the nuclear threat.
It may sound crazy at first, but not as crazy as the idea that these UAP, or drones such as the ones that kept hovering over Langley AFB, are aliens.

Every political system is flawed, and all bureaucracies are corrupt.

20 posted on 11/13/2024 9:43:04 PM PST by chud
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