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It Sounds Like NASA's Moon Rocket Might Be Getting Canceled
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| Nov 13, 3:06 PM EST by
| Victor Tangermann
Posted on 11/13/2024 7:56:30 PM PST by BenLurkin
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posted on
11/13/2024 7:56:30 PM PST
by
BenLurkin
To: BenLurkin
Maybe in his copious free time Elon could have a gander at NASA......
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posted on
11/13/2024 8:01:54 PM PST
by
Some Fat Guy in L.A.
(Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite its unfashionability)
To: BenLurkin
Fire the idiot bill nelson first thing. Put EM in charge of NASA. We’ll be on the moon in two years and Mars in four.
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posted on
11/13/2024 8:02:58 PM PST
by
ealgeone
To: All
Obama absolutely wrecked NASA
To: BenLurkin
NASA will be in better hands now that the adults are back on charge.
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posted on
11/13/2024 8:04:57 PM PST
by
montag813
To: ealgeone
musk is going to launch unmanned starship(s) to mars in 26 months and manned starship(s) 26 months after that. Its an orbit thing. its now or 26 months from now and he is not ready now.Orbital mechanics doesnt leave much room for error.
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posted on
11/13/2024 8:07:04 PM PST
by
calljack
(Sometimes your worst nightmare is just a start.)
To: BenLurkin
Why not use the same type of rocket used to send men to the men in 1969? It worked.
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posted on
11/13/2024 8:14:21 PM PST
by
Inyo-Mono
To: Inyo-Mono
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posted on
11/13/2024 8:15:53 PM PST
by
Sgt_Schultze
(When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves.)
To: BenLurkin
Maybe a video of that project would make a great episode for Red Dwarf...
To: Inyo-Mono
Someone needs to talk to the crew at CuriousMarc’s channel. They know more about the original moon shot hardware and software than anyone alive.
To: BenLurkin
Last time I checked a NASA website, and I think it was for the Artemis program, it was so overtly DEI-focused it came across as a parody. Not surprised the Didn't Earn It crowd can't do anything right.
Imagine if 60 years after Columbus all the European powers had done was send ships to gather plant and soil samples and establish one tiny colony of 6-7 men on a Caribbean island. That's what the current state of space exploration has been under the control of government space programs. It's time to turn the private sector loose.
To: All
Yeah, Musk may be our only hope of getting back to the Moon, much less Mars.
I don't see NASA being able to do it anymore, and Boeing doesn't look ready after stranding those two astronauts in space and all of their other problems.
I remember seeing a brief clip a couple of years ago with some engineer from NASA who said something like we don't know how anymore, and I took it to mean that they must have lost a lot of institutional knowledge at NASA in the years after Apollo 17 when they cancelled the program, and then the Germans engineers, especially Wernher von Braun and Kurt Debus, passed away. Those guys were the heart of the program and probably took a lot of that knowledge to their graves.
Today we would basically be starting over. Technology has gotten better, but in many ways we are dumber.
NASA even lost a lot of the old footage of Moon walks that our astronauts did back then. They think that the tapes must have been erased and reused.
Government efficiency at its finest...
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posted on
11/13/2024 8:34:11 PM PST
by
chud
To: BenLurkin
Artemis is being built by United Lunch Alliance, which is Boeing and Lockheed. That’s all one needs to know.
To: chud
they must have lost a lot of institutional knowledge at NASA in the years after Apollo 17 NASA has been focused on more important things.
To: mmichaels1970
Congress wrecked SLS, by mandating that it be built with 50 year old recycled Shuttle tech and serve as a giant Federal jobs project.
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posted on
11/13/2024 8:58:10 PM PST
by
Campion
(Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
To: Inyo-Mono
They can’t build the saturn 5 anymore. Dont know how, and no one makes the engines. Plus the current launchpads may not be made to handle their liftoff power either.
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posted on
11/13/2024 9:19:01 PM PST
by
Secret Agent Man
(Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
To: chud
Some of the original plans/prints for the saturn 5 don’t exist anymore.
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posted on
11/13/2024 9:20:06 PM PST
by
Secret Agent Man
(Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
To: mmichaels1970
Obama absolutely wrecked NASA.
"Math is hard!"
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posted on
11/13/2024 9:27:16 PM PST
by
MikelTackNailer
(We can never stop failing for the minute we do, we fail.)
To: All
Space is hard.
Even for the Chinese, who likely will get there prior to whatever fallback plan is selected.
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posted on
11/13/2024 9:31:28 PM PST
by
Owen
To: Owen
I should add that there is a theory that the knowledge to get back to the Moon, and possibly go to Mars was not lost.
Debus, von Braun, and some of their compatriots siphoned it off and created a sort of breakaway group that operates in the shadows (Eisenhower warned about it in his farewell address).
The US, Russia, and possibly China know about this group, and even trade with them, but can't touch them because they have vastly superior technology. The only thing preventing a complete takeover is the nuclear threat.
It may sound crazy at first, but not as crazy as the idea that these UAP, or drones such as the ones that kept hovering over Langley AFB, are aliens.
Every political system is flawed, and all bureaucracies are corrupt.
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posted on
11/13/2024 9:43:04 PM PST
by
chud
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